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Cherryann01
Why is it that every company in the Philippines I find advertising property for rent or sale cannot seem to post decent pictures of the property. Many properties advertised seem to only show a few pictures and most of these do not seem to show enough detail or do the property justice.

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Guest9272
Interesting topic. From my experience there's a lot of unregistered "agents" hoping to get a commission, as well non-specialised, advertising portals whose property details aren't regularly updated. In the past I've tried to look at properties advertised on such webpages, that were no longer on the market, and couldn't get an seller/agent response etc. Also, I've been driven around on the back of motorbikes looking at beach lots by local intermediaries, who were paid a commission by the seller in some type of informal arrangement. It turned out we were pleased with one of the properties at a great price, the land purchase went through. Nothing in particular went wrong because we had a good lawyer. That's the key I think. 

That said, this might not be for everyone. There are some registered, professional realty companies. For example, my nephew, Adrian, who has recently graduated and passed the national board as a "Mechanical Engineer" was offered employment with a real estate company in Cebu City. As happy as I was for him, couldn't quite understand the relevance. They explained the company had "ISO accreditation", and therefore one of the requirements was the employment of such an engineer, for whatever reason.  I imagine a company like that would have a more professional advertising portal, and willingness to send details and pictures for properties advertised to potential buyers.

Once, I advertised a property for sale on Locanto, which is a free portal, and all I needed to do was upload a brief description of the lot and some pictures, and I had a few email enquiries...but it's all unstructured attempts to sell, and didn't sell the property. Eventually, I tried  a company called Bachelors Realty, and they were really professional, and wanted to see pictures inside and out, asked me to send better quality images, wanted to see title and transfer details, full names and passport details and to sign a contract. So it was a whole different experience.

Good luck with your property searching!
talamban
One search illustrated a really nice rental property at a reasonable price. Since there was no picture of the entrance to the property, I requested some detailed pics. It showed a concrete staircase with at least 80 steps with no handrail. Since I am over 70 years old, that eliminated it very quickly for me. Can't imagine carrying bags of groceries, even if only going down, that far. Agree with previous comments that there are some people who have no experience just tryin g to make a commission. And, if purchasing, so important to have a clear Title, which is Rare here, especially in The Provinces. Buyer Beware.
Peter Crawford

@Cherryann01 Because they are lazy.

coach53
When its new production selling, then its even rather common with only DRAWINGS. Often they arent even built yet, so in comparing some bad photos is a good add   :)

In some cases its even good if broker know where it is!
E g one broker was stubborn he had market correct lot at the scetchmap. 
- Is the green painted house included?
- No thats baranggay captain's house. Thats 500 meters away from this lot.
-But its the lot where the green house is, because map show thats where the road turn.
-No the lot for sale is 500 meters away from there.
-But there is the road straight so it cant be correct lot marked.
-It is the correct lot marked.
And so on until I gave up   1f923.svg

But an other case was much worse. Price was told per hectare.  Broker was stubborn he had told correct size of land, although the scetch map did show it was 1/10 000 of that. He thought the correct squaremeter amount was hectares inspite of there arent even as many hectares as he claimed in the whole walley there   1f923.svg

But there are some good brokers too.

Compared to other businesses though are brokers much LESS lazy because they DO answer in phone and at written messages!!!  1f923.svg   which almost no other businesses do. 
E g we have tried since February to get answers at a few but main questions from a bank through emails, chat and phoning. They dont even answer in phone and when we finaly got any answer at all, then we just got a nonsence answer at our questions:
-Contant the province head office.
!!! But thats 2 x 200 km away, thats why we wanted a few answers to get to know if its even possible to get from them what we look for, so its realy crap to have to travel that far to get answers at a few basic questions!!!    (We gave up trying to get answer at distance, so my business partner will travel there this week.)

BUT when there are competitors to us acting like that then we find that GOOD, because that make it much easier to become better than them.  Or perhaps presumtive customers will die by shock when we answer    :)
sekmet
That properties are posted multiple times and never updated is frustrating. I'd never lease without seeing it in person. Or there might be a price point that says this is a decent place.
Cherryann01

@sekmet  yeh in England I am used to properties being listed with many pictures and a full description of each room, storage space, garden, parking, etc

ppjhm

@Cherryann01 I have property posted here and the reason my Wife and I did not post many pictures is because we would follow up with additional pictures if and when we were contacted with interested buyers.

coach53

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Reyan hani

@Cherryann01

I rlly totally get what you mean 😅

A friend of mine mentioned the same thing. You mmight want to check this [link moderated]. The listings there usually have better photos and more helpful details Might be worth a look!

Cherryann01

Thinking about this more, maybe some of the companies advertising  try to hide defects that may  put buyers or renters off. Not all of course but maybe some.

bigpearl

Buying or renting a property here requires boots on the ground, most can be weeded out online with a simple chat or lack of forthcoming pic's/info etc. 4 years of looking taught us that many are not serious and have misleading info on the property as well as exact location,,,,,, many claim beachfront lots/homes but can be a kilometre away, squatter land or the owner is dead or overseas the list goes on.


Difficult to find a decent agent unless they are trying to sell off a plan and ludicrous promises to offload the crap the have to sell.


Only my experience here but it takes time to firstly find the property you like and then an agent or owner that is not full of sh1t. Plenty of them around.


Does take time and the winner is being here with boots on the ground and no rose coloured glasses, reality and most sensible people I hope are not stupid as we are talking the Philippines.


Renting you can always walk away from.


Cheers, Steve.

Cherryann01

@bigpearl

I agree boots on the ground. We would not buy properties in our home countries without viewing and probably more than once. It is also common in the Uk to check out the area the property is in during the day and at night just to make sure there are no idiots hanging around causing trouble and no excessive noise. A good solicitor is also a must. Also a good idea to check the crime statistics in the area.

bigpearl

Yes Cherry, all of the above and when after near 4 years we found this place found the worst home in the best street, 3 bed 2 bath while all around mostly mansions owned by westerners 5 to 8 bedroom etc.

Ben hated me as I would come here early morning, early afternoon and the evening and sit in the car, watch/listen and chat with the locals when they were curious why I was sitting there,,,,,,, a plethora of info from those that live here and after a week purchased the property.

Long and hard research paid off and now 5 bed 5 bath after extensions and Reno's, 6 years living here it's still quiet and the ocean hasn't moved.


Mentioned to many members over the years that I would not purchase unless a fully titled clean lot.


Cheers, Steve.

Lotus Eater

@Cherryann01


It is also common in the Uk to check out the area the property is in


Yes indeed especially in your home city of Bradford CA. Named the UK city of culture 2025 smile.png In certain locations you may end up with ongoing plumbers bills clearing out the blocked sewer from all that Biryani oil flushed down the sink not to mention the sight of bright gaudy polyester shirts hanging on the line next door 🤣

Cherryann01

@Lotus Eater

Let’s be honest, Bradford is a sh-t hole so I am glad I at least live in a nice ish district away from the centre. To be honest when people ask me where I live I usually say near Leeds. House prices are a lot cheaper in Bradford though. I was born and raised in a Leeds postcode. Good curries in Bradford though.

Enzyte Bob

Lotus Eater said . . . .not to mention the sight of bright gaudy polyester shirts hanging on the line next door

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You forgot to mention 20 year old undies hanging on the line next door.

bigpearl

Bob.


Don't forget the extreme one eyed opinions being bandied about.


OMO.


Cheers, Steve.

Cherryann01

Lotus Eater said . . . .not to mention the sight of bright gaudy polyester shirts hanging on the line next door
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You forgot to mention 20 year old undies hanging on the line next door. - @Enzyte Bob

I am sure the washing line would have been renewed a few times before Fred replaces his undies

bigpearl

LOL Cherry, undies aside as well as bias views, back on topic.


Rental property or properties for sale are not marketed here like western countries and there is a very slack approach to managing what is trying to be sold/rented and often to the detriment of the unwary.

Hence boots on the ground but even that can fail. I've talked to many expats renting properties that looked great with inspections, once they moved in discovered the A/C units were not working, the sewage system backed up into showers, faulty wiring and the list goes on and the owners don't want to know about it.

I suppose the beauty is it's easy to move on as many do and find something better.


Buying a property it's all on you and the old saying "buyer beware" is very true. You fix the problems as required and at your cost.

The classic here when we purchased was the 3 bedrooms were air conditioned, 2 mounted in the walls and one split system in the 3rd B/R. When we moved in the split system was missing and the wall rattlers didn't work, matters little in the end game as we have had 7 split systems installed and very happy. the bitch was the state of the house with crap everywhere and even worse outside and then the discovery that the previous owner was simply burying all his rubbish as it turns out he wouldn't pay the local Barangay P240 per year for collection, it took months to dig out all the filth from 8 year old nappies to plastics etc.

Things still keep surfacing. But aside from the initial frustrations has become our little bit of paradise and no regrets.

Look, research and research again, spend the time looking and learning the market, chat with the neighbours as that's where you will glean the true info relative to what you are potentially getting into. the ones I chatted with hoped we would buy as they would be more than happy to see the old owner disappear into the night.


Any ways OMO.


Cheers, Steve.

Jackson4

not to mention the sight of bright gaudy polyester shirts hanging on the line next door 🤣 - @Lotus Eater

Those polyester shirts are now the most expensive shirts people sport at golf courses. They call it under armour. I am not inclined to pay 5 times on a shirt where a less expensive equivalent is available.

Besides it looks odd if I am wearing a stretchy exercise shirt with my beer belly hanging.

Jackson4

Interesting topic. From my experience there's a lot of unregistered "agents" hoping to get a commission - @Guest9272

In the US, one will have sign a contract with a realtor when buying or selling. I am thinking if i am contracted with the realtor I cannot convince myself the realtor will put his/her best effort, whereas, the unregistered "agent" in the Philippines will try their best to make the sale since the same buyer can deal with another unregistered "agent" for a better deal. Everything is negotiable and you can call the agent anytime, day or night.

Some realtors here in the US are unscrupulous too. I was bidding on a multi home property. My agent did not give me any confirmation of my bid. Later on I found someone purchased the property at my bid price.

Lotus Eater

not to mention the sight of bright gaudy polyester shirts hanging on the line next door 🤣  - @Lotus EaterThose polyester shirts are now the most expensive shirts people sport at golf courses. They call it under armour. I am not inclined to pay 5 times on a shirt where a less expensive equivalent is available. Besides it looks odd if I am wearing a stretchy exercise shirt with my beer belly hanging. - @Jackson4

Polyester fabric really does not lend itself to hot climates. Linen or cotton are more breathable materials and allow moisture from the body to readily escape.

Just for the record I did notify the Indian embassy in Manila and pointed this out but never received a response sad.png

Enzyte Bob

Lotus Eater said . . . . Polyester fabric really does not lend itself to hot climates. Linen or cotton are more breathable materials and allow moisture from the body to readily escape.


Just for the record I did notify the Indian embassy in Manila and pointed this out but never received a response

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Just imagine the sweet smell of Curry in 20 year old Polyester undies.

bigpearl

While off topic I suppose given the length of time one lives in 20 year old undies they could be considered realestate, at least for the owner.


Cheers, Steve.