how much i can earn with raise a pig
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giovannigio wrote:i would like to ask expat people if someone know, how much it is possible to earn if i buy a baby pig for 1500, o 2500 php and then raise it , and then sell it when it is 100 kilo? thanks
Have you raised pigs before? Who gave you the idea of raising pigs? Who told you that the price of a piglet is 1500 or 2500 (that's a big discrepancy)?
If you're thinking about raising a single pig to supplement your income, forget about it. Chances are you will be overcharged for the piglet. It could be that you will be told that the meat will be more expensive come the town fiesta, which is when you will butcher and sell it. Then people will not pay you, saying that it was your share for the fiesta.
There's an expression: "If you've been playing poker for half an hour and you still don't know who the patsy is, you're the patsy."
If you're thinking about setting up a pig farm, and you haven't had the experience of raising pigs and don't do due diligence, forget about that too. You will likely be overpriced on everything -- piglets / sows, feeds, veterinarians, etc. You may say that your gf's family and the people around them will not ask you for money. But they will find other ways of taking advantage of you.
In one of your previous posts, who gave you the price of PhP300k for a wedding with a village girl? Your gf's family? A wedding coordinator "friend"? Be aware of what happens behind closed doors. Do not be the patsy.
giovannigio wrote:i would like to ask expat people if someone know, how much it is possible to earn if i buy a baby pig for 1500, o 2500 php and then raise it , and then sell it when it is 100 kilo? thanks
One pig eats 1k pesos a month. It takes 4 months to get him ready for market. The market will low ball anyone Pinoy or Foreigners who only have one pig. So expect to sell that 200lbs or 100 kilo pig for 8k even though a lechon pig 60 to 70 kilo will go for the same price. With that said it will be more trouble than its worth. Simply because a pig must be watered 4 to 5 times a day , otherwise you will have a dead pig. They sweat and need cooling down often. They can get sick easily so have a vet on hand.
My suggestions are raise a pig only for personal use. Often what gets expats into trouble is they are not satisfied with having a nice income and retirement. They for some weird way think they should have more money. Going into business here is not very smart.
I compare the business guy to the multi million dollar lottery winner. That guy has just won 100 million buckaroos and what does he do? The clown hires a firm to count his money. Then he invest his money. Then his butt is broke.
With a little bit of time I think I can count up to 100 million. Why pay someone to do that? Why invest when the whole reason a person invest is so they can retire and never worry about money?
Don't wind up a disgruntled foreigner who instead of relaxing and enjoying their self wind up stressed and angry. These people here are looking for a guy who's trying to do business. They will clean your clock. Then they will still say, HEY,,,MY FRIEND. LOL
but then maybe it is better a cow then pig. that is all.
Good luck with that.
I would have a different answer if you had 100-500 pigs but with only one I would say eat it and enjoy a good lecheon.
My guess is that you would probably profit P25 to P40 per kilo over the life of the pig.
Think of all the risks. You dealing with a living thing. think rent, salary, feed, medicine, light, water, permits.
I did raise pigs for a couple of years and I promised myself I would never again deal with anything that is living or perishable. For that kind of profit it's not worth it.
Don't beat me if you don't agree, I'm just giving my best advice based on my own experience.
thanks for your advice
let say this is the amount.
2 front leg is 170 per kilo= 340
2 black leg is 150 per kilo= 300
6kilo pork chop is 170 per kilo=1020
head 100 per kilo= 300
40 kilos of meat @ 170 per kilo
intestine sell and other internal part will sell 500
and 20 bone part will sell 120 per kilo
EXPENSES:
give the butcher 500 pesos and free breakfast.
water and charcoal or woods cost to 100.
just give the butcher
but until now what i understand you non earn o earn just little doing this work
this is my calculation for 10 heads of fattening pigs
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piglets cost you 2000 pesos
feeds cost you 5000-5500 pesos until harvested ( commercial Feed)
other expenses 200-300/pesos/pig for lights and labor (depending on how many Pigs you have.)- for 10 head of Pigs
Cost you 7,800 pesos
Profit
the pig will weigh 90-100kilos x 120/kilo = P10,800
- 7,800
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YOU CAN EARN 3,000 PESOS/PIG
Thats if you know how to raise them.. imagine if you have your own sows for lesser piglet expense and own feed meal to lessen feed expense and you have 1000 heads fattening pigs... you can see raising pig is different than raising a fattening cows and it has their own cons and pros.
I have a different experience about raising pigs for profit and i studied it for 6 long years and i am now a vet part time farmer.. im raising pigs for 3 years now and i found it profitable.
-this is my calculation for fattening pigs
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piglets cost you 2000 pesos
feeds cost you 5000-5500 pesos until harvested ( commercial Feed)
other expenses 300-400/pesos/pig for electricity and labor(optional) (depending on how many Pigs you have.)
- (((for 100 heads of Pigs, other expenses cost P40,000 minus labor 3000/month x 4 months = 12,000 ///
((40,000 - 12,000(labor)= 28,000 for expenses for 100 pigs))and i think 28,000 is too much for electricity and medicines( in my case i payed 2500 - 3500 electricity bill for 4 months in my farm(i only use lights at night, pump and for heater for new born piglets for only few days) and more or less 3000-5000 for meds and vaccines) and for water, i have my own pump for deep well. so, i keep the extra expenses money for farm maintenance))))
Cost you 7,900 pesos/pig
Profit
the pig will weigh 90-100kilos x 120/kilo (live weight) = P10,800 - P12,000
- 7,900
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YOU CAN EARN 2,900 to 4000 PESOS/PIG for 5 months from birth
That's if you know how to manage your farm. you need your own deepwell and building, it was not on the expense written above because you can use it for a long period of time and it should be calculated in your first investments. You can subdivide your earnings per harvest till you get back what you invest while continue using the farm . imagine if you have your own sows for lesser piglet expense and own feed meal to lessen feed expense and you have 200 sow level (sow give birth twice a year and most give 8 - 12 or 16 piglets every time it give birth x 2 a year) and ofcourse breed matter for better meat quality and weight... you can see raising pig is way different than raising a fattening cows and it has their own cons and pros. and btw for lechon , pig should weigh 30 kilos live weight, it would be 70-80 days old from birth.
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my calculation for the lechon is
piglet 2000
feed 900-1000pesos until harvest (70-80 days old from birth)
other expense 100-200 pesos/pig
butcher/lechon-cook labor= 300 pesos
for spices and expenses for lechon=500
Cost 3900
Profit for selling lechon
the pig weigh 30kilos x 140/kilo live weight = 4200 (in the city its 150/kilo)
lechon fee(if you sell it) = +1300 ( others 1,500)
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5500 pesos
cost - 3900 pesos
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You can earn P1,600 or more for 70 to 80 days old pig
It is a good business but you need the skills and desire for good management. There are a lot of farm owners that knows how to takes care of the pigs without studying veterinary medicine or animal science. so start reading and try to attend some seminars(there are a lot of feed-brand company conducting seminars every towns every now and then or you can ask the feed technician for guide and questions)
As you have worked hard to earn your money in Saudi, be extra careful about spending it in Phil. Talk to meat buyers, join a Rotary and obtain information from proffessionals.
Dinky
Dinky
my wife will be there most of the time. she will come here in riyadh just to maintain his visa.
i know still i need more to learn about this business, i just hope my management skill helps me to speed up to understand the business.
by the way dinky, could you help me how to calculate the operating expenses, direct and indirect? and what will be the reference of calculation? is it from gross income or net income. i am a little bit ignorant about accounting system.
thanks in advance.
My friend told me its quite detailed recording when you go into pig farming in a big way.I think he meant you have to keep records of birth, weight feed, when the sow is in heat to impregnate for breeding and so on. He passed on all his information to a filipino relative so I cant forward anything interesting to you.
Dinky.
Good day!
In regards to your questions, your can buy a 45 days old piglet for 2,500 peso. How much feeds you need?
45-83 days old -------0.5kg x 38 days=P1,140.00
83-120 days old------2.0kg x 37 days=P1,110.00
120-143 days ols-----2.2kg x23 days=P690.00
Normally, pig at this age will normally weigh 60-80kg; For average of 70 kg x140Php-you will earn 9,800.00
I suggest it's better you have your own gilt.
Regards,
Jovie
sirrobcentral wrote:Excuse me if I appear cynical but aren't you retired? If so why not sit back and enjoy your self? You come to one of the poorest countries in the world and you want to make money....
I've been reading your comments in other posts, and you surely have my attention.
Yes, the country is poor and that is a fact, but it is definitely not one of the poorest countries in the world for you to malign business opportunities here. Everywhere in the world, there will be people who will take advantage of you when they notice you know nothing of the ins and outs. If you remain negative about everything here, then I don't see any reason why you should stay here in the first place.
I once worked elsewhere, and I came back to my country. I ventured into food and catering business and events organizing business. There is money. THERE IS ALWAYS MONEY WHEN YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE OF YOUR ENDEAVOR, with the right mix of strategy, human resource and finance management. Of course, to earn money you'll need optimism, patience, dedication and a lot of hard work.
I don't mean to judge you, but you need a bit of optimism in your life.
Giovannigio, if you want to venture into swine industry, you can PM me. I have regular suppliers of pork and lechon, and I order frequently. We can talk in private if you want to know how our suppliers work to maximize their profit.
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