Travelling to Schengen with Ricevuta (for Permesso Renewal)

Hello everyone.

I just have one question. I'm supposed to travel to Germany in April. I recently applied for the renewal of my permesso and the date I got for the police verification is for the 30th of June. I was wondering if I can still travel to Germany and in case I do decide to travel and there is some issue with the documents, what is the procedure like then?

If any of you have had similar experiences, please help me out here!

The help will be really appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

Once you are inside Schengen there are no checks for internal travel, so whether you have a carta or not is of no consequence. The whole concept of Schengen is to allow free travel between member countries.

Thank you for your response. For some reason, there is a very mixed response online. So if I am to travel to Germany from Italy via Flixbus, I can do so with my expired permesso and ricevuta?

Pete.au wrote:

Once you are inside Schengen there are no checks for internal travel, so whether you have a carta or not is of no consequence. The whole concept of Schengen is to allow free travel between member countries.

Thank you for your response. For some reason, there is a very mixed response online. So if I am to travel to Germany from Italy via Flixbus, I can do so with my expired permesso and ricevuta?

I've travelled to France, Portugal, Greece and Latvia in the last twelve months and only ever used my passport as ID.  I have a PdS and Carta d' Identita. Only need them in Italy.

Oh okay. Thank you once again for your response. Our situations differ because I'm an Indian passport holder and my long term student visa expired last November. So there are chances of me being asked for my permesso or visa.

Thank you though. Have a great evening.

you cant travel Shengen  if you dont have a valide PDS . with "Ricevuta" you can only go to your country with a direct flight .

Hey, I'm currently having the same issue. I had never had an issue with it before, but a couple weeks ago our bus was stopped along the border of France and they almost made me return to Italy! I would say definitely make sure you have the ricevuta, and any other kind of documentation that proves your legal status in Italy, just in case.

Traveling with ricevuta has always been a problem unless to your home country

@sakshi_178 Hi Sakshi, I came across this thread when i was searching for the same information. The only solution i could find was to get a provisional or temporary permit from the questura to travel to other schengen countries, which needs a bunch of documents and waiting in lines.

I was wondering if you had found a solution for this. 

Thanks!

@sakshi_178 

I have this same question as well.

So my permesso di soggiorno is currently in process of being renewed and I travel next week to France. If I show my carta di identita and they ask for my passport, it is a brand new one with no stamps “of entry” because I have been living in Italy since 2018 and my last entry was in October 2020. But that passport with that entry date has now expired. So in theory, the passport I'd be carrying with me would be brand new with no entry stamps.  Would this a problem? 

I'm thinking of taking my expired passport just in case if asked to show my entry stamp. I have not left Italy since 2020. Would I encounter any problems prior to exiting the airport? 

I'd also be traveling with my minor child who does have Italian citizenship. 


to be honest, I am a little worried, but hoping they are not as strict as we are in the EU. 

Thanks in advance 
@Pete.au 

Could I only show my carta di identita upon entering France though? My Permesso is in process. My passport is brand new since my old has expired and the old passport is where my entry stamp would be. Would my brand new (and empty) passport be a problem? 
@maddiethirupathy 

I asked for a document or the sort and was told no. 
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