expired permesso di soggiorno and after appointment with the police

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ivankapoorNew member06 February 2018 19:23:57

hello,
i am a student in milan and i have applied for the renewal of my permesso di soggiorno around 5 months back. The appointment for finger print scanning is scheduled on 15th of February 2018 and i need to travel to my home country on 17th of the same month. Since after 15th the 'renewal receipt' would also expire and i will not be having any document other than my passport, would i be allowed to come back from my country to milano again?
P.s it is an unavoidable travel and cannot be delayed till i receive my new permesso. (might take a month or more.)

if there's a certain procedure to be followed, please guide me.

thanks in advance.

SimCityATExpert06 February 2018 19:34:10

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Welcome to the Forum

You really need to talk to the officials they will be the best people to give you advice. I would do first thing tomorrow.

ivankapoorNew member06 February 2018 19:43:06

thanks for your reply,
i have tried reaching out to the questura di milano but apparently i need to have an appointment even to clarify this thought. The appointment issuing police station is apparently too busy for such matters. i have been there two times at their given time but still nothing has happened.

JaningalContributor06 February 2018 20:07:36

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It's unfortunate, but as your PdS expired you would need a(nother) visa to re-enter Italy.
Talk to the immigration officials on the 15th when you are up for fingerprinting, maybe there is a solution...
Janin

grin.anNew member06 February 2018 20:31:10

It depends on your country of origin. If you are taking a direct flight or not. After finger print appointment in questura they suppose to give you back the post office receipt which you will hold. Even if your permesso expired you are able to travel.

It is necessary to carry, (apart from the passport or an equivalent identification document valid for international travel) the original of the expired PDS, for which the renewal application has been submitted.

It’s necessary while traveling to carry the receipt of the application for the renewal of the PDS. (The post office receipt "Ricevuta")

ivankapoorNew member06 February 2018 20:58:42

thank you everyone. i will cross-check with the police once again in the morning.

JaningalContributor07 February 2018 06:27:43

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grin.an wrote:
Even if your permesso expired you are able to travel.

Yes, on an outbound flight...
Hopefully, ivankapoor will tell us how it went.
Janin

ivankapoorNew member07 February 2018 11:00:45

to anyone who's curious enough,
As long as one is attending the biometric appointment(finger-print thing) on the given date, he/she could travel to and fro the home country with mere passport and the postal receipt. I would still be carrying some more documents to litigate my case, if needed, confronting italian immigration.

SimCityATExpert07 February 2018 11:14:32

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ivankapoor wrote:
to anyone who's curious enough,
As long as one is attending the biometric appointment(finger-print thing) on the given date, he/she could travel to and fro the home country with mere passport and the postal receipt. I would still be carrying some more documents to litigate my case, if needed, confronting italian immigration.

Thank you for the follow-up, this will help a lot of people in the same position.

aneeshBelgium expert07 February 2018 13:14:23

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ivankapoor wrote:
to anyone who's curious enough,
As long as one is attending the biometric appointment(finger-print thing) on the given date, he/she could travel to and fro the home country with mere passport and the postal receipt. I would still be carrying some more documents to litigate my case, if needed, confronting italian immigration.

Italian inbound immigration may not be the issue as they know this rule. Just pray that the outbound immigration officers in your home country is aware of this policy. They can create issues if they see the expired pdS and are not aware you are allowed to enter using the post receipt.

fk123456Member04 June 2018 10:44:52

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Hi,

I would like to ask since I will behaving the same issue.
I am a student in Italy and I was granted a student visa only for my first year... this is my second year and I do not have a visa anymore... but I have a permesso that will expire in September and I will be applying for a second on in September... while I am waiting for my second pemit... am I able to go back to my home country and come back to Italy (by just showing my poste receipt and old permit)?

pratheesh kumarNew member13 June 2022 07:33:45

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@ivankapoor

Hi Ivanka, I just found ur forum thread while I google for the issue which u faced here. I'm also facing the same issue. I gave my fingerprint verification on March 24 2022. It's been 2 and half months already since I didn't receive an SMS for the collection. I checked my permesso status online. and it showing ready for the past one month. I need to travel to India on August 15th cos I have my marriage on the 29th of Aug.I'm not sure I will receive my permesso before the travel. in that case, I really don't know what to do.

Can u help me in this situation by letting me know how u travelled before u collect the permesso after ur fingerprint verification?. If so how long I can stay in India and while I return to Italy is there any additional procedure I need to follow.?

vijaythrottleNew member13 June 2022 07:54:54

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@pratheesh kumar

Hi ..I think you can travel to India with finger print receipt....while coming from India to Italy ..my suggestion is to take Delhi airport because those people will knows the rules of (permisso di soggerno)

Here are the some rules you check it and while you coming from India to Italy you can take printout of these rules ..

Foreigners awaiting renewal of their residence permits can leave and re-enter Italy if they hold:

https://www.poliziadistato.it/articolo/10722

the receipt issued by Italian Post offices (Poste Italiane S.p.A) certifying the submission of the application for renewal of their residence permit or EC residence permit for long-term residents;

the expired residence permit;

their passport or other equivalent travel document .

Yuvraj Singh ShekhawatMember05 February 2023 08:49:12

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@pratheesh kumar

Hey can anyone help me regarding this I have applied for renewal of permesso di soggiorno in may 2022 after 5 months in December I got the fingerprint date after fingerprint its been two month I am waiting for soggiorno ita been total 8 month now and I have to go in my home country for wedding

mattdlinkMember28 February 2023 18:19:16

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@pratheeshkumar

can you please tell me where to check the status of the permesso online?

I am in the similar boat, awaiting the sms, it has been 2 months.

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