Tips and advice to thrive in Ecuador
When living in a foreign country, you have to adapt to a new environment, various cultures and different social codes.
How did you manage to adjust to Ecuador?
How long does it take to feel at home? Would you say it is an easy process?
According to you, what is key for a successful integration process in Ecuador?
Thank you in advance for sharing your experience!
Priscilla
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Priscilla wrote:Would you say it is an easy process?
According to you, what is key for a successful integration process in Ecuador?
Of course, uprooting and moving to a Spanish-speaking country is not easy.
Thinking you can do it with 100 percent immersion -- lunch at the $2.50 almuerzo every day .. moving your home to a completely Gringo-free environment in your new city .. aspiring to speaking only your limited Spanish and avoiding English -- this would be too much for most Gringos. They wouldn’t last a year.
I recommend a balance for most folks. Acclimate to the new environment while allowing yourself to enjoy aspects of your old one. For instance, pro-actively stay in contact with family and old friends .. watch hometown sports or favored shows on cable or DirecTV .. attend occasional Expat-friendly functions. All this can help an Expat maintain equilibrium when a new life calls for a collision with new experiences and a new language in a new culture.
Instead of immersion Spanish through a school or the Ecuadorian environment, I largely upgraded my Spanish the first year in Quito by watching U.S. television with Spanish subtitles on DirecTV, pausing the video to look up words in a dictionary or on wordreference.com ... Then I applied my new learning over time in the street and the marketplace to speak Spanish to the locals.
cccmedia
It’s an ongoing adjustment, and currently our main adjustment is synonymous with learning the language. As for culture, we are seasoned enough expats to know people are people but different and in Ecuador’s case it’s a nice culture which makes living here enjoyable. What’s also helped our adjustment is maintaining the lifestyle we are accustomed to despite being in a new country. Moving to a new country is drastic enough and the last thing I want is depressed kids. We are achieving this by selection of housing, neighborhood, and also incorporating the activities we normally enjoy into our lives here. It’s a transition that is working for us, it’s methodical even if there are some hiccups along the way.
How long does it take to feel at home? Would you say it is an easy process?
This is also progressing, it’s not an easy process per se but relatively speaking it’s not difficult as Ecuadorians and Ecuador in general are easy to deal with, the language is also Latin based which is huge. Put it this way, this isn’t Japan, with an insanely difficult language, and mainly homogeneous society. I think it’s absolutely possible with time and effort to integrate and call Ecuador home. This is of course for the long term, but I also believe in “A home is where the heart is”, and in this regard we are doing quite well, but again being near fluent in the local language is essential to fully integrating into society here or anywhere for that matter.
According to you, what is key for a successful integration process in Ecuador?
Adapting to the country and understanding the onus is on you to fit in and not the other way around. Be positive minded, learn Spanish and interact with the people.
Tonsupa is mostly a touristic place, a "cottage by the beach" town for City folks that can afford to have a place for the weekends where to relax. thus, no supermarkets, no malls , no traffic, no chaos.... etc. etc. , nearest town (15 min. away) is Atacames. still a small town, however, managed to find a Supermarket ( TIA) and surprisingly even a KFC.
Next large City is Esmeraldas ( 45 min. ), it's the place where I can find most of the items required to "feel at home", .... congestion, traffic, malls, pollution,.... etc. etc.... in short, it takes time to adjust, all you need is patience, and, if you feel "bored" , Quito is just 6 hr. away by bus ($10.00).
Just my observation and really curious nature. Am I wrong or are those of you who care what you appear like to other people in agreement.? I am sure there are many of you guilty of this that will scold me but like I said I have been her 5 years now and read soooo many gringo bashes I can deal with it. I have a saying::: the more gringos I meet the less I like because of the "dont care" attitude. So now you have heard the rest of the question!! Good-- day!
Still adjusting after almost 2 years in Cuenca. I was lucky in finding an Ecuadorian partner very shortly after arriving here. As a result, I think my Spanish has progressed faster than had I not met her. As with most couples, you experience differences and that has been a challenge with the language. But it has contributed to me learning words and phrases I might not have had a chance to learn or at least it might have taken considerably longer. And of course her family has been very welcoming. I am just part of the family.
Other things have been more difficult. Such as getting accustomed to dogs barking and car alarms going off regularly and people playing loud music in the middle of the night and roosters crowing right next to your apartment and people rarely stopping to let you cross the road (even when there is a designated cross walk). Sometimes I think it would be better living further out of the city. But, it is possible to find places within the city where these problems are lessened.
There is a large construction project going on in the city at present: The installation of a tram system. The project is taking a long time to complete and this presents many obstacles to traffic and pedestrians. In this city they have little regard for safety when it comes to pedestrians. They have the North West section of de Las Americas blocked off right now and lanes blocked which causes the traffic to be backed up and they have provided very little assistance to pedestrians that need to get across the very busy de Las Americas. On occasion they have police there to stop the traffic for crossing pedestrians. But they are not there every day. And do you think the traffic will stop? Nope!!! Very occasionally there is a nice person who will stop. But that is VERY rare.
So, there are a number of things that are very difficult to deal with. I am still working on accepting these things or at least trying to manage them in some way.
How long does it take to feel at home? Would you say it is an easy process?
I felt at home almost in the first week I was here. I immediately liked the city. I also felt very comfortable and safe walking the streets even at night and still do. But it will never be North America because you have to put up with differences if you wish to stay here. So, yes you can feel comfortable living here but it will never be what you are used to not matter how long you live here.
According to you, what is key for a successful integration process in Ecuador?
Be as flexible and patient as possible. It will help to reduce the frustration of dealing with some of things we are not used to. And of course keep pursuing your Spanish. As others have said you will never fully experience Ecuador without Spanish. And don't let yourself get frustrated by the seemingly lack of progress in learning the language. It takes time. It is not going to happen overnight. As I have mentioned before, I am living with an Ecuadorian woman who does not speak English and experiencing her family and friends over my almost 2 years here and I still cannot understand all the conversations that are going on. I am, of course, better than when I arrived but still not to the point I would like to be at. I can negotiate buying things and locating places. The typical day-to-day stuff. But lengthy conversations are out of my reach at this point in time. But I will get there.
MikeGB wrote:[b]people rarely stopping to let you cross the road (even when there is a designated cross walk).
And do you think the traffic will stop? Nope!!! Very occasionally there is a nice person who will stop. But that is VERY rare.
I was walking along the Tomebamba today and a taxi was hauling ass by the broken bridge. I gestured at him to slow down and he flipped me off. I suspect one of these days I will lose my cool and get into a fight.
I wonder how many incidents of pedestrian rage there are in the city each day.
Nards Barley wrote:I was walking along the Tomebamba today and a taxi was hauling ass by the broken bridge. I gestured at him to slow down and he flipped me off....
I wonder how many incidents of pedestrian rage there are in the city each day.
Since this is a thread about advice for Ecuador, we also should mention the riders on city buses.
Twice inside six weeks, I was thrown to the floor of a bus by unsafe, in-a-hurry drivers in Quito -- both times on the J.L. Mera-Amazonas line in Mariscal sector.
The tip is that if you are moving around on a bus -- including getting onto the bus and finding a seat -- continuously look for straps, bars and seat edges to latch onto, so you don’t lose your balance.
cccmedia
Nards Barley wrote:I wonder how many incidents of pedestrian rage there are in the city each day.
Surprisingly, all I have ever seen is a few hand gestures and few chosen words. So far I have not witnessed any physical acts. I guess that type of road rage has not hit Ecuador yet or maybe it is a cultural thing that prevents it.
cccmedia wrote:Twice inside six weeks, I was thrown to the floor of a bus by unsafe, in-a-hurry drivers in Quito -- both times on the J.L. Mera-Amazonas line in Mariscal sector.
cccmedia
So far I have not had such an occurrence when riding on buses here in Cuenca. But I have heard of such incidences. Definitely not a good idea riding buses if you have a stability problem.
AmberFenton wrote:he starts to bark, then the old Shepherd dog closest to our house starts with the loudest barking I have ever heard. It is like he is in our Living room. We have to turn our TV up, so we can hear it over the barking. I am wearing ear-plugs at night, and still hear all the dogs. I have tried to talk to the neighbours, who speak English, but to no avail.
If I were in your situation, I would get soundproof windows if I thought that would work. I would pay for them myself if necessary if I thought it would produce peace of mind. I spent about $600 to soundproof my windows and it was a great investment.
If I didn’t think that soundproofing would work, I would move. A good view, etc. is not worth it if you have to put up with so much dog barking so much of the time.
Not everybody in Ecuador is putting up with the “plague” of dog barking. Dogs were banned from my condo complex in Quito last year. I rarely hear any barking from street dogs. With my soundproof windows, when I have earplugs in to meditate or sleep, I don’t ever hear barking even though my windows face Calle Oriente in Quito.
Amber’s tale is a cautionary reminder to Expats to check out the noise situation at various times of day before committing to live in any rental.
cccmedia
I WISHED I KNEW SPANISH SO BADLY. I WAS SICK AND HAD MEMORY LOSS SO IT MAD IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME AND THEY WERE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT EASY FOR ME THEY SEEMED MAD AT ME LIKE ***. LEARN ON YOUR PHONE APP
IT IS A GOOD ONE SPANISH FREE Duolingo find it in seach do it now 2 times a day you will get good at it.
we came because of the cost of living. and health care. it was a shock everything is so different nothing like America then everyone is a little mad at you. they are not kind some nice but an attitude. you have to adjust to this. lIKE CHILDREN WHITH AN ATTITUDE. We didn't visit here first which made it harder for me
everything was a shock plus I was sick. I had to adjust and I was old it was the hardest think I ever did in my life. Have a contact at home that is a mail forward for credit cards for you its your usa mailing address you will need this. We pay this person for mailing us forward for envelopes and mailing expenses ect its important you will understand later. All our money is in a bank in usa in schwab then we once a month transfer it to a bank here. so far we are not charged for transfer. many charge for this service we keep our money in usa because banks here are unstable loose things nice way of saying it. problems situations then language situations. etc. I could go and on but you have some good tips here
Reason : please avoid off topic generalized comment.
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We can now get back to the initial topic.

Have a nice day
Christine
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AmberFenton wrote:The neighbour has a dog on the roof [4 and 5 floors up] and the other 5 dogs are in the yard. When the one on the roof spots anything that moves, he starts to bark, then the old Shepherd dog closest to our house starts with the loudest barking, I have ever heard. It is like he is in our Living room. We have to turn our TV up, so we can hear it over the barking. I am wearing ear-plugs at night, and still hear all the dogs. I have tried to talk to the neighbors, who speak English [20 years of living in Australia], but to no avail.
There is something that might help. I have an Ecuadorian friend whom acquired a stun gun (that is what my Ecuadorian friend called it) . It doesn't stun the animal: It make a high pitched noise that they do not like. As soon as you use it the dogs will shut up and try and hide somewhere. The one my friend found was sold by a Gringo. So it is questionable as to whether you will find such a thing here in Ecuador. But you should be able to find one on Amazon or some such site in the US.
If you can't control your neighbor maybe you can control the dogs.
Or subsequently has someone translate the word ‘stun-gun’ into Spanish.
That’s when the neighborhood will discover that there can be a difference of opinion as to whether the dogs are actually being ‘stunned.'
cccmedia
cccmedia wrote:That could work just fine, maybe, until a neighbor (and by extension, the neighbor’s grandote nephew) discovers that you -- pointing the aparato at their property -- are what’s causing the animals to run around erratically and hide.
Or subsequently has someone translate the word ‘stun-gun’ into Spanish.![]()
That’s when the neighborhood will discover that there can be a difference of opinion as to whether the dogs are actually being ‘stunned.'
cccmedia
But clearly she has explored all possible other avenues without success. The police even laughed at her. So, this is an additional option. And even if the neighbors do discover that she is doing this, what are they going to do about it?
By the way, they probably wouldn't even know what the device was, so translating it to Spanish would not be an option.
The neighbor and the overgrown nephew show up at the stunner's landlord to raise hell about the 'aparato' they saw being pointed at their property and how it made their dogs crazy.
The landlord subsequently comes by to inspect the device and learn all about it.
The stunner insists it is a private matter and withholds self-incriminating information about the stun-gun while strongly complaining again about the dog barking problem.
The landlord is unhappy with this attitude and demands that the stunner and her companion vacate the next day.
That next day the complainant, the 'grandote' and two beefy unknown 'hombres' show up at 8 a.m. at the apartment to make sure the move-out happens and they 'assist' by putting all personal items of the couple out on the curb.
As it happens, the multi-dog owner is the cousin of the police chief, and no 'policia' are to be found on the unscheduled "moving day." The stunner's companion attempts to call the police, but it seems no one is available to come out and save the day.
cccmedia
We have noticed that cost of living here have risen , however, the increased cost is still substantially less than in North America. Prices to purchase or build a house, however have risen at a faster rate than they have in many parts of Canada or the USA. We enjoy entertainment, however,we find that most of the music seems to differ from what we were used to hearing of Spanish Back home. There are always Gringo gathering places, as much as they are fun to participate in, in so doing delays our language learning.
We hope to come back to visit ,as well as visit Peru and Colombia.
Stanley/the
Besides the glorious colonial architecture and gracious local people I have met, one of the major reasons I love Cuenca is the weather. Finally I can breakout those cashmere sweaters and wool dress pants that have been stashed away for decades while living in India or Florida. And don't think the locals do not appreciate seeing Gringos / Tourists / Foreigners dressed with a little style. It shows a respect for their culture and for their city... Not to mention for You!
Gringos talk constantly of "fitting in" not "standing out" - where or when do you see Cuencanos dressed-up as if they just got off the set of Raiders of the Lost Ark?
Clean up your act... Please.
I fell in love with Ecuador and Cuenca in particular and am doing the best I can to adjust to car alarms, barking dogs ( I have 7 all around me plus strays) and sirens.
I must also agree with the comments on gringo hobos and bag ladies. I am no fashion plate but my clothes are clean and fit me (pants are getting a little tight). I sit in restaurants on Calle Larga and watch them shuffle by. Makes you wonder if they dressed like that back home.
I have met several gringos who have left Cuenca after 2 or 3 years and their general complaint was that they were bored and had nothing to do. They are the same ones that make no effort to integrate or try to learn some basic Spanish. They only go to gringo bars and hang out with other gringos who seem to think the same way.
Very happy to hear from a few right thinking people on here.
chungee wrote:Gringos talk constantly of "fitting in" not "standing out" - where or when do you see Cuencanos dressed-up as if they just got off the set of Raiders of the Lost Ark?
Clean up your act... Please.
You must not get out very much. Most of the locals dress very casually which is typical of many cities I have lived in and visited in North America. I think you might be a little too fashion conscious. It might be best for you to just relax a little and enjoy life and not worry so much about criticizing others.
P.S.
Who are wearing all those locally-made panama hats? Not many of the locals from what I have seen; I see them wearing baseball caps. Should expats wear panama hats if it makes them stick out like a sore thumb? I say yes.
Please note that i have removed some inappropriate posts from this thread.
Thanks,
Priscilla

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