Brand new member... Please be gentle with me:-D
Hi, my boyfriend is being "primed & arm twisted" by his employer to manage a team of staff based in Malta. He lives on Isle of Man at the moment & is quite settled there but.... He wants career progression & for the right set of circumstances would relocate to Malta. We are both born & bred in England so English our 1st language & UK passport holders. My boyfriend earns fab money in his current role ie Isle of Man lower taxation etc & would be on the same money but obviously in euros if not a bit more if he took the job in Malta.
. Its me that's the problem.... We can't live together at the moment because I can't get a job on the Isle of Man without a work permit & I can't get a work permit without a job!!! We have been having a long distance relationship now for nearly 3yrs!! We both want to live together, but not if I can't work as he shouldn't have to bankroll me just because he earns enough money!! My skill set is within customer service/sales/insurance/call centre earning approx £18k before UK tax/NI. How likely is it that I'd find work in the Sliema/St Julian's possibly Valletta area if I moved over with him? I don't mean working in a bar/cafe on minimum wage as i know I'd easily get that in summertime, I mean a permanent role working within an office environment using my office/people skills maybe working for HSBC or a personal lines insurance company & what are the salary expectations of call centre/office type work.
Any help/advice would be most appreciated as we are getting pretty desperate to live under the same roof!
Thanks
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Hi Wanderlust,
welcome to the forum.
If you can't get a job in the UK or affiliated islands because of your nationality it won't be much different in Malta. What passport do you hold and what are your specific qualifications that could get you a work permit in Malta?
A long term relationship for 3 years outside of Malta will not help you with residency.
Hi thanks for your reply. I currently have a job in UK as I am a British citizen working within a call centre environment earning approx £18k a year. I can't work on the Isle of Man (where my boyfriend lives) as that is a crown dependency & also non EU country. Its not technically part of the UK so I need a work permit to work which I'm finding near impossible to obtain. I can move over there tomorrow legally, but not allowed to work. My boyfriend as I say has a very well paid job but won't bankroll me to live there with him without me having my own income. I am in agreement with him on this as I've always earned my own money. I have general standard of education GCSE's to 'A' Level standard. I have vast experience of working in offices eg telesales/customer service/insurance/estate agency/admin roles
I just thought that it might be easier working/living in Malta so we can be together as I'm a UK citizen/passport holder.
Wanderlust1 wrote:...... I am in agreement with him on this as I've always earned my own money. I have general standard of education GCSE's to 'A' Level standard. I have vast experience of working in offices eg telesales/customer service/insurance/estate agency/admin roles
I just thought that it might be easier working/living in Malta so we can be together as I'm a UK citizen/passport holder.
Hi there,
Have you thought of starting your own online business?
It may help cover some momentary monetary needs, but it's not the best solution.
Have you ever thought at cyber-trading?
If you are serious about your future, that's the way to go.
Hi there, I'm definitely looking into selling stuff on eBay as a small business. If I was based from the Isle of Man my boyfriend who is an active eBay private seller of stuff says "I need to be careful of postage costs, if I did it commercially ie buying it from a supplier, shipping it over to me on the Isle of Man & then cost of re-shipping it once I've sold said item to bidder within UK. The margins for profit potentially could be very low if at all feasible. I'd need to be very specific in what I sold to keep postage to minimum. I'm just trying to wrack my brains as what to sell.... Maybe concert tickets..
Any ideas most appreciated... Again if I lived in Malta (island living) I'd have the same scenario ie shipping goods in to sell then getting the goods out of the country so it can reach the rest of mainland Europe who would then be my buyers.
Wanderlust1 wrote:.... Any ideas most appreciated... Again if I lived in Malta (island living) I'd have the same scenario ie shipping goods in to sell then getting the goods out of the country so it can reach the rest of mainland Europe who would then be my buyers.
Hi Wanderlust, 
Great you set your imagination in motion.
The only problem with import is importing in enough quantity and variety to generate a comfortable income.
The only problem with export from Malta is what to export. It all takes time, and when you thought you found a nice wholesaler to buy from you on a regular basis, he already found another supplier.
Too many troubles befall on merchants, sales reps, or commission agents.
If you and boyfriend get married, relocation should not be a problem anymore.
Can't you get trained to do the same job as he? 
I would never marry someone I've not lived with for at least a year or so!!! Lol. I think I can answer my own question which is..... I just need to give up my lifestyle which is great in my home city & just blindly move to Malta with the boyfriend for say a year to see how: 1) me & the boyfriend get on living together 2) to find a proper job not just a seasonal/casual one as I know already that I could find one of those.
I understand that as you are an EU citizen you should have no problems gaining employment out here in the call centre environment.
John your assistance is misleading to say the least!!!
(You do not live here nor have any experience of Malta. I also note that your profile reads like an advert for your services - in the Caribbean!!))
redmik wrote:I understand that as you are an EU citizen you should have no problems gaining employment out here in the call centre environment.
John your assistance is misleading to say the least!!!
(You do not live here nor have any experience of Malta. I also note that your profile reads like an advert for your services - in the Caribbean!!))
Hi Mick,
1). I was wondering why somebody from UK in the call center would do the same in Malta.
People want to become expats and thus to go one step higher financially, sentimentally (like following her sweetheart), spiritually or health-wise to benefit from a better climate.
I see no point in someone who did an average job in one country to go to another country to do the same thing.
Opinions differ and I am realistic enough to see some folks doing just the same thing over and over again.
2). I do not have to live in Malta to know what can or cannot be done there.
Foreigners can live in Malta (or anywhere else for that matter) very well without taking jobs from the locals or starting "businesses" in the island.
3). My profile is accurate and I share the joy of knowing how to live anywhere without looking for jobs with the world, especially in small, poor countries where jobs of any kind are scarce and where starting business is not the best idea.
There are other things job hunters and entrepreneurs everywhere can do to better themselves and the public where they live. It is up to everybody to search for a better life the way he / she sees fit under the circumstances.
I know island life very well and I have already met 4 expats from this forum here in St. Lucia plus I see the expat situation here every week which is enough to assist newcomers with proper introductions, without charging and without expecting any remuneration.
4). I went to your profile and web site and I have seen nothing of importance which could inspire expats, job hunters or entrepreneurs to do for a living, to exceed themselves or to help the country where they live.
I wished your profile or web site had something useful from where I could learn something new.
5). I have no reason to mislead the author of this thread or anybody else for that matter. I am in a profession which allows me not to mislead anybody and to differentiate myself from malicious persons who like to say and do anything to get attention.
I consider it's an insult to the author of this thread for somebody to assume she could be mislead easily by anybody.
I worked and learnt without anybody's help, not to say that I had no expat forum to turn to for immigration or jobs or advice for my personal growth and change.
When I moved to St. Lucia in 1991, I did not discuss any job issues with anybody simply because there was absolutely nobody in Austria I could turn to for suggestions.
If I'd move to Malta next week, I would not seek the opinion of strangers on the Net, and I'd rather contact lawyers for any relocation related matters.
I do not have to advise the author of this thread, I do not have to explain anything to you, but I still did both of them.
And one more word; I tried to be as gentle as the author of this thread required.
I do not believe I did something for which I must apologize.
redmik wrote:
The arrogance is breathtaking, especially in the first paragraph
Thank you for replying.
Please explain your point of view.
I am sincerely curious to learn something.
Hi Wanderlust1,
I feel you would have no problems getting work with your skills. Lack of Maltese will hinder you in some jobs, like the ones that would involve communicating with the Maltese. There is HSBC, The Radisson in Golden Bay and other places with call centres to the UK. Malta is a rep led Island, reps for everything, you can't get to the local shop counter for reps. As for setting up a business, I feel you will need to get a feel for Malta and it's needs before going down that road. Malta is unique, the people are unique, the way the country works is unique, this is not a bad uniqueness, just an uniqueness that requires time living here to understand it's full business opportunities.
coxf0001 wrote:Hi Wanderlust1, I feel you will need to get a feel for Malta and it's needs before going down that road. Malta is unique, the people are unique, the way the country works is unique, this is not a bad uniqueness, just an uniqueness that requires time living here to understand it's full business opportunities.
Exactly!
And there are many experienced business people on this (Malta) forum.
redmik wrote:coxf0001 wrote:Hi Wanderlust1, I feel you will need to get a feel for Malta and it's needs before going down that road. Malta is unique, the people are unique, the way the country works is unique, this is not a bad uniqueness, just an uniqueness that requires time living here to understand it's full business opportunities.
Exactly!
totally agree
Hi Everyone, oh my goodness I can only apologise that I have opened up a can of worms with some of the comments. I genuinely feel mortified/squirming as to me posing my original question!
The whole point was..... My boyfriend & I just need to find a way to be living together without him bankrolling me!!!!!!! I don't want to set the world alight & become an entrepreneur (if I made loads of then all the better but I'm happy plodding). I just need to weigh up if I gave up my job in my home city to be with my boyfriend & live in Malta that I could get a job doing something similar/same as back home so the boyfriend isn't "keeping me" so to speak.
Can Anyone tell me type of salary per annum in Malta for experienced call centre staff?
Thanks
Hi and welcome. Of course we, on here, understood your question and I am sure others will be able to give you the information you ask for. (I cannot as I am retired.) We will all do what we can to help based upon our experiences of living here.
In the meantime have a good look around here:
https://www.expat.com/forum/341-5-work-in-malta.html
or perhaps here an dput in Malta as location?
http://mt.thecallcentrejob.com/
call centres in say hsbc and northway brokers pay 14-16k per annum
John C. wrote:May I also suggest that the only judge for our replies here to be the author of this thread?
No, because what is posted here is viewed by many. Not just the author but others seeking help and/or advice But was that what you were hoping for, promotion of your products? We know that you are an international trader who offers tuition etc. so your post appeared to be self serving.
As for your information, there is much that is incorrect. Also, you did not answer her question but chose to impose your 'mentoring' views and ethos upon her.
Also, you do not live here and so biased information, gleaned from the internet, is not useful. Sahha.
Northway is a company that offers pay-day-loans to UK cash-strapped consumers at high interest rates but has recently layed off their Maltese employees. This is part of the Malta business modell ....so don't be surprised !
http://www.di-ve.com/news/65-northway-e … -redundant
You can find all information about Malta based companies online .....don't complain afterwards that you didn't know.
Cheap money = cheap salaries.
Cheers
Ricky
Thanks Toonarmy, Redmik, Coxf001 & Ricky for helpful info. I'm no longer as confused or phased by the daunting prospect of relocating to Malta. John C, thanks also for you spending the time to reply however.......... As a brand new member to this forum (actually I've never been a member of any forum whatsoever) I found the "bickering" between you & Redmik a very embarrassing experience on my part. I almost regret asking my question! In fairness to you Redmik I feel that you were just trying to defend me (which is admirable so thank you)!
Hi Wanderlust1,
Don't be put off, there are a good bunch here with lots of experience covering all sorts of aspects about living in Malta.
It's just, occasionally, outsiders to Malta give opinions, some useful, some not so much and make assumptions based on their experience elsewhere and like I have said in a previous post, you really need to be here to have an understanding of that to make comment.
So please don't worry and regret posting your question and feel free to ask again if something else needs answering!
Caroline
Wanderlust1 wrote:Thanks Toonarmy, Redmik, Coxf001 & Ricky for helpful info. I'm no longer as confused or phased by the daunting prospect of relocating to Malta. John C, thanks also for you spending the time to reply however.......... As a brand new member to this forum (actually I've never been a member of any forum whatsoever) I found the "bickering" between you & Redmik a very embarrassing experience on my part. I almost regret asking my question! In fairness to you Redmik I feel that you were just trying to defend me (which is admirable so thank you)!
Hello Wanderlust1, 
1). I am glad that you received the encouragement needed for your progress. Feel free to do as you see best for yourself under the circumstances.
Perhaps my message was not as clear as I thought: all I wanted to suggest is that you can also work online, not only take a job similar to the one you had (or have now).
Yes, I happen to teach cyber-trading but I have a very strict selection process: I ask prospective students to send me their CV where I look for two qualities. If they are absent, then I decline to accept them and advise them on the best route for them to study with other tutors.
Also, independently of me, viewers can read info at my web site and are free to check with other tutors.
2). @ redmik. Yes, I am an international trader and more than that: I am their grandfather.
We could exchange views but whats the use of it if the author of the thread is now optimistic about her future?
3). To all islanders, I say Hello.
We have one thing in common: they call us islomaniacs.
Unfortunately the page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islomania which contained facts I wanted to point you to has been deleted.
What more can I do?
Good bye. 
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