Bad experience and so angry !!!!
I had very bad experience about expat yesterday. I have been working and also have alot of friends are expats. I am always respect their culture, life style and private life.
But I never see anyone in my life like one American who I saw yesterday. He is impolite and liar. He thinks he is white and he is better than all Vietnamese.
Yesterday, My bf and I went back to my hometown (about 100 km from HCMC). My sister said that one American restaurant is opening now. Owners is two American guys. My bf wanted to check out. So we rode to there but unlucky, they not opened on Monday.
We said hi to them (2 owners - father and son). My bf started to have conversation with the father. He is American too. He said all kind of s..t about Vietnamese. He said that all rich locals are robbers. And they do nothing instead working like all expats. And he also said that two expats be killed in my hometown. Give me a break, how can two expats got killed here and none knows anything. He thinks Vietnam is s..t place or what.
He introduced himself is aviation teacher. But when I said about some aviation company' name. He don't know about that. What the f... Liar again. When he talked, he just stopped and thought. The n talked again.
And many things. My gosh, I was so angry and wanted to kick his a.. but my bf tried to make me calm down and we went home. I can't believe about what he said. How can you guys live in my country and said s...t like that?
But I got some ideas for him now.
Finally, I don't think all expats is bad. But I hope you guys come to Vietnam and you guys should respect us. Many locals can't speak English but we know and we can feel respect and friendly from expats. I am sorry for any expats come here and got bad experience about Vietnam. But it not means you guys can come out and say "s...t" about Vietnam like that. Can't forgive.
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VungTauDon wrote:My mother in law who is Vietnamese also thinks all the rich Vietnamese in our area are robbers. She is 68
I think all rich people someway somehow at some point stole something from ME!
Bastiges!! All of them! 


we are the same exprence about the American! - special the meaning Rich and Poor they are
.! hix
AnnieDuong wrote:To be honest, it's 50-50, sometimes you can meet narrow minded expats, who came here only because apparently "it's easy for a white guy to get Asian girls", they complain about our country, yet refuse to fking leave because they earn much more money here teaching english (oh yea, many with no qualification and are not native speakers, I shall just paint myself white, it makes things easier, lol). No offence to those who do professional jobs that Viet people can't do due to lack in skills and that. On the other hand, there are many nice expats that love the country even more than Viet people do. Just your luck I guess, give them a review on tripadvisor and spread the words, they will change their attitude soon enough x
+1 for the above.
In my 16 months in Vietnam I have met a lot of expats who do embarass me when I see them behaving in front of Vietnamese people. Just remember that the percentage of those nasty, ignorant, highly opinionated westerners will be higher here as Vietnam can be seen as an escape for some.
There are always more good eggs than bad. Try not to presume their ignorance and dishonesty stems from their skin colour or nationality. As Nashcat said, assholes are everywhere.
Don't let them get you down. Most of them are ill-informed but really nice. Some of them are arrogant bastards; pay no mind to them. It's hard adjusting to new and unfamiliar surroundings (as I'm quickly finding out).
Like everyone else says, don't let it get to you too much. Arrogant bastards are all around the world. You'll go crazy if you let everyone of them get to you.
However I can assure you not everybody is like that and the majority of expats are people that value Vietnam and the Vietnamese for the friendly and welcoming people they are. I think you actually no that since your boyfriend is America.
Sorry you had such a bad experience
AQM22 wrote:I'm sorry for your bad experience, but a lot of American have superiority complex.
Really? And no other ethnicity does?
perry88 wrote:This is not something new about westerners, especially Americans. The term "Ugly Americans" dates back to, at least, the late 1950s. I'm not sure if this is result of the US actions during WWII to help win that gave Americans a sense of superiority. If that is the case it should be left to the actual men and women who fought that should feel proud but definitely not superior. It can also be the endless flag-waving in the US that seems to implant a "we're-better-than-you" attitude in Americans. Unfortunately, it is usually the less intelligent that act on this false bravado. The best thing to do, I believe, is to look upon them as petulant children that do not know their place with adults. You can remind them that it is better to "get along" with a smile instead of an attitude.
You obviously didn't wear a uniform..... or had your boot's on Iraqi or Afghanistan soil. did you?..... so very easy for you to write this huh....?
Perry L., USAF
Pleiku AB, Central Highlands
Dec 1967-December, 1968
perry88 wrote:That is really so intelligent of you to decipher that I was not in the military or served in a war zone. May I ask what part of my post gave you that information?
Perry L., USAF
Pleiku AB, Central Highlands
Dec 1967-December, 1968
You weren't a flyer were you Perry?
Thanks for being there and fought alongside us.
Parmyd wrote:Really? And no other ethnicity does?
Wow, a little defensive aren't we? I didn't mean that no other ethnicity has a superiority complex. Japan is probably worse than us. However, that doesn't apply here. I also said in my final statement "Arrogant bastards are all around the world." If I had added "with a superiority complex", would it sound better?
I love the good ol' US of A and will defend our fat egotistic a** til my last breath. However, for a country that boast freedom and superiority, we are very ill-informed especially about developing countries like this one. Don't even get me started on our supposed "freedom". Like I said, people whom I love and respect dearly wanted me to bring a satellite phone so I have a way to contacting them while I'm here. They were surprise to see cars here. They were surprised that my $300 apartment is almost as nice as a lot of the $1000 apartment at home.
I don't have too much experience for reference, but from talking to a lot of people around the world, especially those from first world countries, we, American, (even some American agree with me on this) don't know much about the outside world beyond our white picket fence.
AQM22 wrote:[, we, American, (even some American agree with me on this) don't know much about the outside world beyond our white picket fence.
No disagreement from me wrt to that statement. I'm guessing that when you are repeatedly told "you're number 1" from the day you're born...there isn't much reason to learn or be curious about another culture.
Europeans on the other hand are much more worldly than those raised in America.
Who has time to learn about anything these days when there are 400 channels on TV airing complete utter crap, right?
Cheers.
perry88 wrote:Couldn't flap my arms fast enough so I washed out.
Less chance of visiting the Hanoi Hilton that way though! 

Once again, As I said, I don't hate that guy (who I met) at all. I just felt upset and angry because his attitude. I hope he will understand and respect where he live and people around him. I am sure if he keeps that attitude. Sooner or later, he will make his own trouble.
Take care,
Love you all
LT
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