Cancellation of visa/work permit (Vietnam)

You can only get a work permit from an employer. The residence visa is probably a consequence of the work permit so it will expire with the work permit.

Your son would need a new employer to sponsor him.

I suspect that a tourist visa is the only option now. I don't know if you can sponsor your son for a TR visa. Maybe another poster will have had experience with that.

VietCanada wrote:

I don't know if you can sponsor your son for a TR visa. Maybe another poster will have had experience with that.

The OP is a Scottish citizen living in Edinburgh.

If he has a new employer already lined up and they are in the process of applying for his work permit I think he will be ok, evidence of application is usually ok.

Let's assume the worst, if he will effectively be jobless and have no job lined up he could be forced to leave the country.

Is he living here alone ? Single or married ?
If he is married then it makes life a little easier. Need more Info

Jlgarbutt wrote:

Is he living here alone ? Single or married ?

And why didn't he ask the question himself instead of having the parent doing it for him?

People do strange things

Thank you for your responses.

My son is trying to find a way to do this from within Vietnam but, given the urgency, I thought it might also help to ask here! Apologies if this is not the correct etiquette.

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I was trying to be helpful given the urgency but I accept your criticism. I shall withdraw from the forum, with apologies to those whom I have exasperated.

I get your concern for your son.. it's a natural and human thing to do to try and find answers and assist.

Nobody addressed the question of altering a work permit or TR visa.

In the times we live in now, he is best to contact a reputable agent who is up-to- date with the current laws. Try this company.

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VietCanada wrote:

Nobody addressed the question of altering a work permit or TR visa.

Could it be because it's so obviously illegal it would land the offender in jail, get him kick out of the country, or both?  The question shouldn't even be asked in the first place.

Ciambella wrote:

VietCanada wrote:

Nobody addressed the question of altering a work permit or TR visa.

Could it be because it's so obviously illegal it would land the offender in jail, get him kick out of the country, or both?  The question shouldn't even be asked in the first place.

I maybe am naive but I did not interpret VietCanada's comment to mean alter by forgery but simply to alter it by official means.  At least I sure hope so. 

I know that when I got my work permit, I posed the question to my lawyer about moving to another school and she told me it was relatively easy as they just take the information from the old permit and transfer it.  There is no need to resubmit all the diplomas and such, but of course you will need the employment contract at the new school.  Also in my case I was not dependent on having the accompanying TRC, as I had a VEC so I was not concerned with being without a visa.

The problem in this case seems to be that the individual in question does not seem to have another firm job offer, or at least not one that we have been told about.  That leaves him in a sort of visa purgatory.

There also was no reference as to why the first school let him go.  If it was simply a lack of work that may be OK, but if it was for some kind of misconduct that could be problematic when seeking another job.

The op asked the question:

" Is it possible to change the employer name on both of these from within Vietnam?"

I should have quoted it.

I am guessing he is concerned about what happens between the old permit expiring and the completion of a new permit.

In China work permits can be transferred and extended from work place to another. At least where I worked.

Last time I was in Korea there was a short time after the expiration of one permit to get the next application started. I think it was two weeks. I suspect things have changed there since I last worked there.

It's why I suggested a tourist visa. To give the guy more time to find his next job. It seems to me that would be the best route but I have no experience with that.

I am not sure I ever applied for a job at a language centre here where they cared about why I left the last job. Just last Friday at an interview I was about to explain why I wasn't going back to my employer pre-covid and the interviewer interrupted me to ask about my pay expectations. Their loss is my gain mentality I assume.

Private schools might but again I've only been asked once. That school is infamous for high turnover. The person who asked was a newb. Her superior just looked amused. I was hired.

THIGV wrote:

Ciambella wrote:

VietCanada wrote:

Nobody addressed the question of altering a work permit or TR visa.

Could it be because it's so obviously illegal it would land the offender in jail, get him kick out of the country, or both?  The question shouldn't even be asked in the first place.

I maybe am naive but I did not interpret VietCanada's comment to mean alter by forgery but simply to alter it by official means.  At least I sure hope so.

I had also thought (as does Ciambella) that this (the OP--not VietCanada's post) to be a request for something that would violate the law, but I re-read the OP and had my initial reply deleted at my request.

Here are the clues (highlighted):

trinid13 wrote:

...My son's employer is about to terminate his contract, which would mean that he has no visa or work permit any more. Is it possible to change the employer name on both of these from within Vietnam? If it is not possible, then can he apply for a tourist visa until his new employer sorts the new paperwork?...

Now I am reading that to mean he has found a new employer.

Otherwise, one would think maybe the parent would ask about new, immediate employment opportunities for her son.

THIGV wrote:

I know that when I got my work permit, I posed the question to my lawyer about moving to another school and she told me it was relatively easy as they just take the information from the old permit and transfer it.  There is no need to resubmit all the diplomas and such, but of course you will need the employment contract at the new school.  Also in my case I was not dependent on having the accompanying TRC, as I had a VEC so I was not concerned with being without a visa.

The problem in this case seems to be that the individual in question does not seem to have another firm job offer, or at least not one that we have been told about.  That leaves him in a sort of visa purgatory.

My gut (no link for that) tells me your reply is spot on, if the inference of new employment is correct.

SWAG

My comment was not meant to address VietCanada at all and I hope he knew it. 

THIGV and OB pointed out that I was mistaken in my assumption that the OP was thinking of having the employer's name changed on the work permit without the hassle of going through the proper procedures.  I didn't see how that could happen, not just in Vietnam but in any country.  What would one do, crossing out the name of the sponsor on an official document and writing the new one above it?

THIGV explained about the transfer of information.  Now, that I can understand.  It's copying the info that was written on the old permit, pasting it on the new permit, then submitting the new permit for approval.  That action is to save the perusing of documents and the typing, but the procedure is still the same.  There's no skipping the step of sending the new application to the Department of Labor, Invalid and Society for approval.  There's also no skipping the waiting for the new visa to be approved.

Same procedures, same waiting time.  No other way around it or facilitate it.

Ciambella wrote:

My comment was not meant to address VietCanada at all and I hope he knew it. 

THIGV and OB pointed out that I was mistaken in my assumption that the OP was thinking of having the employer's name changed on the work permit without the hassle of going through the proper procedures.  I didn't see how that could happen, not just in Vietnam but in any country.  What would one do, crossing out the name of the sponsor on an official document and writing the new one above it?

THIGV explained about the transfer of information.  Now, that I can understand.  It's copying the info that was written on the old permit, pasting it on the new permit, then submitting the new permit for approval.  That action is to save the perusing of documents and the typing, but the procedure is still the same.  There's no skipping the step of sending the new application to the Department of Labor, Invalid and Society for approval.  There's also no skipping the waiting for the new visa to be approved.

Same procedures, same waiting time.  No other way around it or facilitate it.

That's what I meant...

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