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kimeric

Hi people I'm thinking of opening a 3d printing cafe in ho chi minh but I don't have any experience or knowledge about it, anybody is able to answer few of my questions?

1)How much capital will be needed?
2)Is 3d printing legal in Vietnam? I understand some countries don't allow 3d printing.
3)Anybody have experience with 3d printing?
4)Any advice whether this concept cafe will be able to be popular in ho chi minh?

Thank you.

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It would behoove you to first get experience in any business you plan to open. Especially one that would take a substantial investment. If you are truly serious about opening a 3d printing café put in the time and effort to educate yourself. At least then you'll know what you're getting into.

Jaitch

Personally, I think it will take off as sin as the concept is demonstrated to and accepted by VNese industry.

However, think about ChoLon for a location as that's where industry is. Anywhere within a kilometre of NGUYEN CHI THANH @ TA UYEN would be good. Of you can locate on a busy road, in a store front, people can watch - outside - and they will spread the world.

I bought a high-power laser cutter 4-years ago and I've been busy ever since even though there are tens of lower powered plastic stick-on letter cutters in town. My unit can fingers off!

My newer venture is high-pressure diamond/water cutting - another  lined-up out the door venture. 2-3 months ago we have a 30-cm ships shaft to cut and shape - took seven men to position the work piece.

But don't go buying a cheap, bottom of the market unit - get something that can handle industrial applications. Don't forget to price in software and computer costs. And you will need a plastic thread machine - plenty of raw material hereabouts.

A hardware 'copying' unit might be a handy accessory, too. When you get the money rolling in.

Then you have to set up a company, register it. And, as a Foreigner, you can't operate out of a house.

Your questions.
1) Determined by your machine then add USD$5,000.
2) Everything is legal in VietNam until they catch you. I suspect there is nothing around to stop you unless you go making gun receivers.
3) A few days. Like using a toothpaste tube on a CAD system. The output models must be string, not fragile home-type things.
4) Business/industry first, then give out maps for the tourists to locate you.

kimeric

Hi Jaitch thanks for the information, really good advice, from what you mentioned you have your own business, can I know when you first started here, what are the major problems you faced?

Jaitch

kimeric wrote:

Hi Jaitch thanks for the information, really good advice, from what you mentioned you have your own business, can I know when you first started here, what are the major problems you faced?


21 years ago - after I got married.

Paperwork is the killer, I always originate in TP HCM then move to another province. BUT WITH YOUR PROPOSAL, Cho Lon is the place to get regular customers.

You need a VN partner, someone who doesn't care about the business or, more importantly, money. (An Australian friend pays a 'hooker' USD$100 / year to be his president)

laclongquan_travel

Dont making guns or other weapons. Just last year, I think, they busted a talented gunmaker in the north for making modified guns. Well, the other crime is that his customers are mostly criminals (I think, dont remember much about that details).
VN is a pretty curious bunch and they might already have blueprints for 3D guns already. The bottleneck is a technician and a machine. So you will get noticed among that crowd. Try not to engage in those type of business.

Jaitch

laclongquan_travel wrote:

Dont making guns or other weapons. Just last year, I think, they busted a talented gunmaker in the north for making modified guns. Well, the other crime is that his customers are mostly criminals (I think, dont remember much about that details).


It was in Hai Phong and 2 years ago. The manufacturer was a very skilled machinist and used basic tools like a lathe, welder, and heat (for tempering the metal). His customers talked too much ... and the Internal Security Police did what they do best.

laclongquan_travel

Point is, VN is a US gun-control liberal's wet dream. "No private gun and no private weapon"

Jaitch

laclongquan_travel wrote:

Point is, VN is a US gun-control liberal's wet dream. "No private gun and no private weapon"


That's why the crime rate here on VN is so much lower. Ask InterPol.

laclongquan_travel

Lemme think about it! I am not sure gun control related to that...

Jaitch

laclongquan_travel wrote:

Point is, VN is a US gun-control liberal's wet dream. "No private gun and no private weapon"


Read: Update on 3D things

l3ully

laclongquan_travel wrote:

Point is, VN is a US gun-control liberal's wet dream. "No private gun and no private weapon"


You are sure, that this is the reality?

laclongquan_travel

Does that term "wet dream" give it away?

Jaitch wrote:
laclongquan_travel wrote:

Point is, VN is a US gun-control liberal's wet dream. "No private gun and no private weapon"


Read: Update on 3D things


It's one of the reason I advised the guy to stay out of making weapons aspect. There are gangs in Vietnam that only care about an actual weapon, not how they are made. And they have money to burn.

kimeric

I understand from my Vietnamese friends some rich and famous people are license to carry gun.

Jaitch

kimeric wrote:

I understand from my Vietnamese friends some rich and famous people are license to carry gun.


Guns are very tightly controlled. You can't even use nail hammer guns here.

There are a few people in the Central Highlands who carry guns but they are involved in forestry and animal control - as in protecting them.

kimeric

Hi jaitch it's not that way, maybe what my friend told me could be wrong but I had seen local guy carrying gun around. My friend told me it's legal.

laclongquan_travel

They got licences, of course. Open-carry like that always have a bunch of permits.

Jaitch

kimeric wrote:

Hi jaitch it's not that way, maybe what my friend told me could be wrong but I had seen local guy carrying gun around. My friend told me it's legal.


Ask what the guy does for a living. The Internal Security Police carry guns, and are in plain clothes. Their Tetra radios are so bulky you can spot the Internal Security Police a way off.

They control guns, and fireworks, for the same reason. And they don't allow use of explosives by civilians except one or two rare cases.

My employer makes military robotics and we can make a crude, but effective, explosive but only the military have the good stuff. Same with guns (check out the barrels of Cong An guns - most have junk in them).

Guns are around - they are smuggled in across the Cambodian border between Chau Doc and Ha Tien where the river is the border.

laclongquan_travel

VN is near one of the busiest hub of sea routes ==> more gangs, and smuggling orgs ==>smuggled guns.