Brazil new Tax law for 2024 for resident and Citizens
@abthree
I am unclear what you mean by the "policy of the RF to avoid double taxation". Do you mean taxation of income in both US and Brazil, as in US taxes Brazil income which has already been taxed in Brazil and vice versa?
06/24/23 @abthreeI am unclear what you mean by the "policy of the RF to avoid double taxation". Do you mean taxation of income in both US and Brazil, as in US taxes Brazil income which has already been taxed in Brazil and vice versa? -@sjpetzold
Yes. 👍🏻 In the absence of a tax treaty there's some double taxation, but it seems to be reduced.
There a new tax law in Brazil just passed in 2024. They are going to tax all your investment all over the world. I put up a disscussion in this group explaining the new law. it anywhere from 8% to 15% on any profits you make if you are a resident or citizen. Example if you sell a property outside of Brazil they will tax you on the profit 15%. Here a web this explains it. https://www.trenchrossi.com/en/legal-al … in-brazil/
@abthree
Good evening abthree! I am a new resident in Brasil from Canada and am investing in crypto. I also am looking for a good accountant that deals with crypto law and tax implications. Would you mind sharing the name of your Brazilian accountant. I hope he speaks English. Thank you for all of your insight!
There a new tax law in Brazil just passed in 2024. They are going to tax all your investment all over the world. I put up a disscussion in this group explaining the new law. it anywhere from 8% to 15% on any profits you make if you are a resident or citizen. Example if you sell a property outside of Brazil they will tax you on the profit 15%. Here a web this explains it. https://www.trenchrossi.com/en/legal-al … in-brazil/ - @NewBrazil
Link is to a law firm.
12/13/24 Link is to a law firm. - @alan279
It's an informational article, not a business solicitation.
@NewBrazil
My dear departed mother use to say, “THERE IS NO UTOPIA 🤣”.
And how exactly is Brazil going to find out what you are doing in your home country if the only income that you show is coming from the US Social Security administration?
@Robert Laney Do you have a CPF?? This is they way Brazil follow what you spend. If you have a bank account in Brazil they will see your SSI being deposited. So yes they may not know how much savings you have in the US. But they will know how much you are spending and deposit. You will need to pay taxes.
12/13/24 @abthree
Good evening abthree! I am a new resident in Brasil from Canada and am investing in crypto. I also am looking for a good accountant that deals with crypto law and tax implications. Would you mind sharing the name of your Brazilian accountant. I hope he speaks English. Thank you for all of your insight! - @scottym
Welcome. I'm pretty sure that she doesn't know anything about crypto and I doubt very much that she speaks English, so there probably would not be a good fit.
You do not initially need an accountant in Brasil. Anyone can operate a calculator, even you.
Who you should be hiring is a tax lawyer. You are moving your entire life, including the financial one, to the other side of the world into a country that has a myriad of complex and ever changing tax laws, all the while still having to negotiate those of your previous residence. Do you have multiple degrees in Portuguese universities on this subject ? I don't.
Someone with a nominal income and assets, or even moreso, significant ones, should be engaging a professional multilingual international specialist with the track record and credentials, as well as a blue chip client base, versus "Acerola the Acontador" located in the subloja above a churrascaria.
For someone in the nominal category perhaps a junior member of a firm will do. Normally these services are billed in blocks of prepaid hours. 10 hours @ R$1.000 is a good starting point for many, whereas others will need the services of someone requiring 50 hours @ R$2.000 upfront, or more.
FWIW you make your own bed.
@kolyaS122HSU
How do you find a competent attorney/accountant (or team?) for your particular country pairs?
Asking for a friend.
Has anyone who a resident had to produce a tax document when leaving Brazil. Even just for a visit back to the USA. Thank for responding
03/16/25 Has anyone who a resident had to produce a tax document when leaving Brazil. Even just for a visit back to the USA. Thank for responding - @NewBrazil
I never have, either leaving Brazil or coming back. The only Brazilian tax document that I ever have to supply to anyone is a copy of my most current Brazilian tax return to my bank shortly after its filed.
I recently noted that a certification that no federal taxes are currently owing, the "Certidão Negativa de Débitos Relativos aos Tributos Federais e à Dívida Ativa da União" is available to anyone with a CPF through the Receita Federal app. I haven't tried to use it anywhere yet, but I've started keeping a current copy on file in my current year tax folder, just in case.
@abthree
Do you know where in the app I can find this? I just downloaded it but I don't see the correct thing to choose and ended up at a different website 😅
03/17/25 Do you know where in the app I can find this? I just downloaded it but I don't see the correct thing to choose and ended up at a different website 😅 - @*HernameisRio*
Good morning. The RF app is integrated with gov.br, so you'll need a gov.br account. The RF app takes you there, and you can create your gov.br account by clicking on "criar" on the login page if you don't already have one.
Once you're in gov.br, it will automatically take you to a Receita Federal page with a menu with "Favorites" at the top, then:
Cartão CPF
Meu Imposto de Renda
Certidão Negativa
Atividades Econômicas
Receita Saúde
Agendamentos
Empregados Domésticos
Empresas
Processos
Notas Fiscais de Serviços
Select "Certidão Negativa" and follow the prompts, You can download the cert to your phone and print it out if you have print-from-phone software; otherwise you can send it to your computer and print it from there.
Some other useful features: "Meu Imposto de Renda" lets you review all of your past IR declarations; "Notas Fiscais de Serviço" will show you the Notas Fiscais you've received that are registered with the RF. It shows me all the monthly NFs for my health insurance.
Great thread. I don't know how I can follow this one automatically.
I have found 2 international tax lawyers in my own country, but both are extremely expensive (I think they are targeting multinational companies) so it's not in my price range.
One is €1000 for a 1 tot 1.5 hour consultation.
It was mentioned on their website that there is a treaty between Brazil and Belgium (2002) to avoid double taxation. So that must be good. We will be visiting Brazil shortly, after a 2 year period in which my wife couldn't leave Belgium due to a legal battle about her permanent residency here. She worked here in those 2 years and paid those taxes here, but she is still a tax resident in Brazil. Given the tax treaty I don't think that Brazil can demand another 27% tax on her income from Belgium the last 2 years. She has already paid something like 30% here.
I am not sure if she has to give up her tax residency in Brazil, when we visit mid june. But I think it would be the best move to make.
@Wout
If your wife didn’t declare she was leaving with a document sent to the Brazil government. They still consider her a tax payer. They now tax all income throughout the world. That change in the beginning of 2024. I have a lawyer in Brazil he charge me 700.00 Reals to review a rental contract this is about $125.00 dollars. He has many foreign clients also in the USA.
@abthree
Hi, Sorry, totally new to Brazil and need much help in understanding the tax rules/system and an account who knows and can help us...I'm searching for that needed accountant and tax lawyer(?). Please send contact information.
Thank you.
Ron
09/19/25 Hi, Sorry, totally new to Brazil and need much help in understanding the tax rules/system and an account who knows and can help us...I'm searching for that needed accountant and tax lawyer(?). Please send contact information.
Thank you.
Ron - @RonD1
Welcome! I hope that you're enjoying Brazil so far, and that your adjustment is going well. Don't be anxious if it seems to be taking a while: it takes a while: Brazil is its own world.
I've been following the discussion on the "Simple Question - Are US Social Security funds taxed in Brazil?" thread, and second the advice you've been getting there, particularly from @Peter Itamaraca. I'm very happy with my accountant, who's been doing my Brazilian taxes for eight years and advises my husband (a Brazilian citizen who's never been a US resident, and so has no exposure to the IRS) on his as well. She probably is not the right person for you: she only speaks Portuguese, has no familiarity with US tax laws (my US taxes are prepared by someone there and I give her my final US return to start the Brazilian process every year), and lives in Manaus, as we do. Nevertheless, if you'd like me to set up a contact, send me a Direct Message and I'll clear it with her. You can send a direct message by clicking on my name or avatar to get to my profile, and hitting the "Send a Message" button.
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