Mistakes expats make in Puerto Rico
If one does not ask and does not search the previous answers, it is hard to fully prepare them, we can not read their mind to determine what is critical to them.
Maybe that's why many think moving here is similar to moving to another state.
Not researching enough is one of the biggest mistakes.
Justpeachyy wrote:We all have to see where we're coming from. When people can't tolerate a difference in opinion is where one runs in to trouble. My feelings aren't hurt no need to apologize. I can be respectful of differences and move on. If there's something I can contribute to I definitely will like I have been. 👍
Please do contribute
Lsantana wrote:Lol ReyP true. I was asked once when going on vacation to PR how long it would tske me to cross the bridge and were serious about it too.
It is such a shame what little they know about the world.
This post is not supposed to be about what is positive or negative with Puerto Rico.
Obviously not seeing the negatives is a mistake, just like not property understanding the positives.
Nothing wrong in pointing the negatives, but to stay on subject, the conversation should be about how Expats fail to take the issues under consideration and why they are surprised by them.
We can not yet read an expat mind, we are working on
it, so in the mean time asking questions and weighing the answers is a good start. One answer should lead to another question and the cycle should repeat over and over until one has enough info to make a decision. Every person situation is different, canned answers will not work for most, the more we understand your specific needs the more to the point the answer can be.
Rey

247realestatepr wrote:Is this still where we point out usual mistakes people do when relocating to PR??
Yes, that's the subject of the thread. 

Biggest mistake across the board is "questioning" the local culture as to "WHY" it is the way it is. Learning about the culture when relocating or relocated by a company... adapting and respecting it is the key.
You would not want a person coming to your home and asking why you behave the way you do or do business a certain way, etc.
Education is key and then respecting it!
Embrace the differences and enjoy the Island life!
Lynn Stravecky
Journeyandbeyond wrote:I have been working with Expats on the Island as well as one myself for almost 20 years.
Biggest mistake across the board is "questioning" the local culture as to "WHY" it is the way it is. Learning about the culture when relocating or relocated by a company... adapting and respecting it is the key.
You would not want a person coming to your home and asking why you behave the way you do or do business a certain way, etc.
Education is key and then respecting it!
Embrace the differences and enjoy the Island life!
Lynn Stravecky
I truly agree! Also, serve yourself of extra patience. Everything in a "process" in the island. I went to transfer the boat title on my name, you even have to get a $5 letter from hacienda to prove if you are paying taxes in the island! What does getting a tittle change have to do with your taxes? But it's the "process", of course they won't tell you this until you are at the DNR office and after you wait in line.
I guess that's why beer was invented! 
Journeyandbeyond wrote:I have been working with Expats on the Island as well as one myself for almost 20 years.
Biggest mistake across the board is "questioning" the local culture as to "WHY" it is the way it is. Learning about the culture when relocating or relocated by a company... adapting and respecting it is the key.
You would not want a person coming to your home and asking why you behave the way you do or do business a certain way, etc.
Education is key and then respecting it!
Embrace the differences and enjoy the Island life!
Lynn Stravecky
STRONGLY DISAGREE. I have no respect for the notoriously bad customer service on the island that is part of the culture. No one should have respect for that. It doesn't deserve respect. It's not good for tourism, it's not good for those who live here, and it's not good for improving PR.
bonu wrote:STRONGLY DISAGREE. I have no respect for the notoriously bad customer service on the island that is part of the culture. No one should have respect for that. It doesn't deserve respect. It's not good for tourism, it's not good for those who live here, and it's not good for improving PR.
I agree with you Bonu, The problem in my mind is the management of the business or agency. They should be promoting and ENFORCING a customer satisfaction agenda. Workers negative to a customer satisfaction agenda should be fired and replaced with people that are looking for a job and that are willing to be customer focus.
But .... Until management puts its foot down, and demand customer focus, nothing will change. Customers, including Expats should ask for the manager and give them a piece of their mind then follow that with a letter writing campaign to the management in the headquarter even if that means the US.
All is well in their minds until complains start coming in, recording the issues and putting them in Facebook will probably help them change. Humble them!!!!!
This is not limited to government agencies and big companies. The notorious horrible customer service, such as not responding promptly to emails - if at all, is widespread. It has infected low educated people and highly educated people, such as CPA's. It's in large firms and small ones such as realtors with no employees. It happens whether you have met the person in person or not. I know from firsthand experience trying to give these people my money.
You can't compete in a global economy, and win, when an overwhelmingly majority of Puerto Ricans are too busy, too lazy, too uncaring, or for whatever reason, don't promptly respond to emails as they should.
Respecting how Puerto Ricans like Salsa or Mofongo is one thing. Respecting the part of culture that holds Puerto Rico back is misguided.
ReyP wrote:By the way, I been know to come down rather negative about PR from time to time. It is because I don't want some members to think PR is heaven on earth. While it may be for some, it may be hell for others, specially if they were forced to come.
If one does not ask and does not search the previous answers, it is hard to fully prepare them, we can not read their mind to determine what is critical to them.
The negatives are more important than the positives when researching a new place to live, in my opinion. Every place you move to has the good and bad. I want to know what stinks about PR so I know what I'm getting into.
As far as Customer Service issues... I found the same CS issues when living in Spain. They are usually rude and unhelpful, and it's "never their department". Seville, Spain just got their first Costco and my family there is constantly in awe of the amazing customer service they provide. Good for Costco... others need to follow that example!!
I lived in Spain for half my life... I understand slowness, incompetence, ("Island time" even though it's not an island) and culture differences. I am currently living in a tiny town in southwest Colorado. We can't even get someone to come repair our refrigerator! I had a flooring guy say "See you between 10-11:00 on Saturday" and never show or call! And this is American, Baby!!!
I think you really really have to go to a new place with your mind wide open. My husband is super laid back... if we are waiting for 30 minutes for our dinner to be served he just orders another beer. I'm a little bit more high strung but that's the Italian, Spanish, Russian genes... can't get away from that.
I am hoping that I will find PR a comfortable place where we can build a life for the next few years, if not permanently, which is an option.
Any advice on what to visit or do while we are there for a week would be appreciated. I am going to create a new post with a question I have.
suzanne12345 wrote:Do you know what part of the island you want to live? SJ or somewhere far away from the city? I would plan a day or 2 in SJ and then get a car and explore different parts of the island. If you want to be near the water, spend a night on the north coast somewhere, then another in rincon, then cabo rojo, on to la paguera, ponce, humacoa, fajardo, luquillo, and back to SJ. If you want the mountains, then try the ruta panoramica...The island has so much to offer!
We are thinking around the Dorado area although I am open to surrounding areas. We have a comfortable rental budget. I'm not sure how much traveling around we will be able to do as my husband has some meetings to attend while we are there.
We are looking for a gated community with security close to shopping and restaurants to rent.
Yes - Puerto Rico is indeed factually a U.S territory (whether one likes it being so or not) but it also is culturally, socially, topologically very different than the States.....thus the expat sensation and/or feeling in being there/here. Whether or not one expresses, considers or feels they are an "expat" is personally subjective and also personally appropriate. Feel / express as you want ...and be open to how others do so as well.
Don't let him get you going, I think he enjoys it.
Yes - Puerto Rico is indeed factually a U.S territory (whether one likes it being so or not) but it also is culturally, socially, topologically very different than the States.....thus the expat sensation and/or feeling in being there/here. Whether or not one expresses, considers or feels they are an "expat" is personally subjective and also personally appropriate. Always feel / express as you will but remember be open to how others do so as well.
EVERYONE should be entitled to think that they are correct and obtusely share their opinions...whether they are devoid of personal reasonable cognitive ability ...or are self-aware of such. Even me. Lol
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