Police, police everywhere - just who are they?

JaitchGuest29 January 2012 12:33:16

In talking to policemen, two things become clear quickly: They don't like dealing with Foreigners, and the English word "Why". But don't feel bad, the police don't much like today's younger Vietnamese youth for they complain, like the late Rodney Dangerfield, they have no respect.

Essentially there are two generic types of police: the ones that carry guns and wear the baggy olive green uniform they are either totally or partially controlled by the military through the Ministry of People's Public Security of VietNam. The other generic are ones not wearing baggy greens, such as the CGST, and not carrying a weapon.

The organisation chart of the law enforcement forces in VietNam is like a maze, quite honestly I don't think many understand it. My friendly colonel in TP HCM People's Public Security has never yet explained the interlocking relationships and when he gets frustrated explaining he cries 'Let's Drink'!

Many dress alike. The baggy olive green uniform being the most common. There are variants like olive green fatigues worn by the club carrying thugs that 'police' the narrow Hiems - they are some in the Pham Ngu Lau area.

There there are the light coloured uniformed sceurity guard outfit, a commercial enterprise of the Cong An - they often carry two-way radio's. They can get an illegally parked vehicle taken away in minutes.

Firemen, too, wear the baggy greens, except they don't carry a gun or have red epaulets. Municipal (Peoples Committees) inspectors and enforcement officers either wear baggy greens without weapons or a tan uniform, without weapons.

In Hue they also have police who wear dark blue uniforms, designed after the CGST uniform, who enforce truck regulations.

This weekend I was out in my Zodiac on Dak Lake and I encountered another type of police. The Marine Police - who carry arms and are partially controlled by the military (Army) and parially by the coastal protection authorities.

VietNam Marine Police's Symbol

The Marine Police 'patch', or work area, is any navigable inland water and coastal areas - close in.

These guys on the weekend had a nice fibre glass vessel powered by a 50 Horse Power outboard motor which the drag around on a trailer hitched to an old Jeep.

They checked my boat for safety items (bailer, life jackets, whistle/horn, lights, etc). They checked the fishing lines and a non-existent 'catch'. They even gave us few bottles of drinking water as a Tet present, then they were off.

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WideAwakeSerial expat29 January 2012 13:06:41

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Wild_1 ViP

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Wild_1ViP29 January 2012 13:38:21

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Jaitch,

These ranks and files drive me up the wall too; and on every major holiday, they are out in force. But this is what I know:

The ones in tan uniforms are the traffic guys. They are Vietnamese version of the Highway Patrols or State Troopers in the US.

Those green guys--with the red shoulder boards--are the street cops, much like the beat cops you see in the US. They do a little traffic, mostly parkings, in their districts. But, their main purpose is criminal in their assigned districts.

Then, there are another group of green guys, but they wear boots and have red shoulder bands. Those are the MPs. They usually ride in that WW II looking motorcycles, with the side carts. These all have weapons.

Then, there are those olive looking guys, usually run around with batons and whistles. Those are like volunteers or aspiring police officers. But, they do get small stipends from the districts that they live and work in. Depending on the size of the block, but there is at least one in every Vietnamese block. These guys can detain you and turn you over to the district cops. But, their main job is to harrass the street vendors.

Finally, the blue ones that pulled your boat over are Vietnamese version of the Coast Guards. These guys also travel on land too, though, much like the Border Patrols. Their chief purpose is contrabands.

With the exception of those block volunteer guys, I believe that the elites of each group are authorized to carry weapons. Pretty much like SWATs or ATFs do in the US. Tan, green and blue alike. Pretty cool, is it not?

Howie