SALARY IN MISKOLC

healthyandwealthyway wrote:

Hello. Just a question, is 590k  before tax a favourable salary for an expat teacher in Miskolc, Hungary? Also, is a 140k rent including utilities a good renting price for a 40m2 flat?

Hopefully, I can get an answer from the group. Thank you.

It's not a great amount of money but it's probably just about enough to  live on.   You wouldn't be buying that Ferrari you always wanted.  Prices seem to be escalating here.

The apartment, probably is OK cost wise depending.  Check if utilities include water, sewage, electricity and gas. Also make sure it includes common costs of the building - covering cleaning, maintenance and so on.  These can be high.

If you want good money for teaching English, go to Korea.

Thank you so much for your reply.  Hopefully,  they can give me an increase or they make the 590 as net.

Glad the 140k rent including utilities is a good price. Thank you for the reminder, I will ask them about the inclusion. What they just told me is that there's no need to pay, it's all in.  Normally, how much is the cost of utilities per month specially during winter for a 40m2 flat?

Thanks again.

healthyandwealthyway wrote:

Thank you so much for your reply.  Hopefully,  they can give me an increase or they make the 590 as net.

Glad the 140k rent including utilities is a good price. Thank you for the reminder, I will ask them about the inclusion. What they just told me is that there's no need to pay, it's all in.  Normally, how much is the cost of utilities per month specially during winter for a 40m2 flat?

Thanks again.

Teachers are not paid that well and I doubt they would increase it. It is known that in some cases they take on a 2nd job.

healthyandwealthyway wrote:

Thank you so much for your reply.  Hopefully,  they can give me an increase or they make the 590 as net.

Glad the 140k rent including utilities is a good price. Thank you for the reminder, I will ask them about the inclusion. What they just told me is that there's no need to pay, it's all in.  Normally, how much is the cost of utilities per month specially during winter for a 40m2 flat?

Thanks again.

You can probably get a place cheaper than that.  Depends how luxurious it is.  But 40m2 is not very big, perhaps one or two rooms plus bathroom and small kitchen.  Better if it comes fully equipped - washer/dryer, vacuum cleaner plus all utensils etc.  Maybe they should send you some photos.   If you lose your job, you'd almost certainly lose your home if they provide it.

It's hard to say how much the utilities are but 40K HUF would probably do it (I live in a house with my family and we pay a lot for everything).  But like I said, make sure the common costs are included.  These could be 20K HUF a month.  As a renter,  the proportion for maintenance and the building insurance should be on the owner.   Cleaning of the common areas is a different thing.  Internet you can get via 4G or Telekom for a reasonable price.  Would that be included? It's a utility of a sort.

590K net you probably won't get.   If you had a family with you, it'd be a struggle.  Don't forget the healthcare  and social costs you and they have to pay. You'd need the infamous TAJ-card to get government healthcare. As an employee, you should get that automatically but best to check.

I've only been in Miskolc once, but found it the least interesting of Hungarian cities. There's a long traditional shopping street but so much of the rest seems to reflect the worst of socialist redevelopment.

I say this because great cities with character are so common in Hungary. Miskolc seems to be an outlier.

Thank you guys for all the information that you've shared with me. I will probably find a 2nd job if I'll decide to accept the offer as I really want to save not just for security but also for travels.

It would be great if they can really shoulder the rent. Sadly, I'll be paying the 140k rent. I might negotiate the benefits  to them. Good thing I'm single but need to take care of my parents financially.  I'm kinda hesitant to negotiate as I know that expats in EU are getting less than expats in Asia. I've been to Japan last time but return to India because of Covid. Now, we're the one experiencing a heavy blow.

Thanks again dear expats!

healthyandwealthyway wrote:

Thank you guys for all the information that you've shared with me. I will probably find a 2nd job if I'll decide to accept the offer as I really want to save not just for security but also for travels.

It would be great if they can really shoulder the rent. Sadly, I'll be paying the 140k rent. I might negotiate the benefits  to them. Good thing I'm single but need to take care of my parents financially.  I'm kinda hesitant to negotiate as I know that expats in EU are getting less than expats in Asia. I've been to Japan last time but return to India because of Covid. Now, we're the one experiencing a heavy blow.

Thanks again dear expats!

If you are India, instead of coming here, why not try further East in Korea or Japan. 

My nephew was there for 2 years and was earning rather good money.  One of my daughters spent 2 years in the North of Japan and had a good time. 

From their reports, of Korea and Japan, you can get reasonable paying jobs but there are many side English teaching jobs privately which pay nice money directly.

But in any case, if you do come to Hungary, please post here to let us know how you get on.

It would be lovely to have a fully furnished and equipped flat. I haven't seen the place. I just hope it will justify the price as I've been checking ingatlan and I've been seeing cheaper options with modern look.

In the contract, it says rent and common cost. Hence, the HeadMaster told me that no need to pay for monthly bills as all are included in the 140k. However, I saw from Ingatlan that utilities are referred as overhead if I'm not mistaken. Hopefully, it's just about wrong translation and I really don't have any obligations once I paid the 140k.

Glad that I will just live alone and I think the salary is still livable.  I eat clean so I seldom devour on meat so I might spend a little for food. It's just that I want to save more whilst working in Hungary.

fluffy2560 wrote:

healthyandwealthyway wrote:

Thank you guys for all the information that you've shared with me. I will probably find a 2nd job if I'll decide to accept the offer as I really want to save not just for security but also for travels.

It would be great if they can really shoulder the rent. Sadly, I'll be paying the 140k rent. I might negotiate the benefits  to them. Good thing I'm single but need to take care of my parents financially.  I'm kinda hesitant to negotiate as I know that expats in EU are getting less than expats in Asia. I've been to Japan last time but return to India because of Covid. Now, we're the one experiencing a heavy blow.

Thanks again dear expats!

If you are India, instead of coming here, why not try further East in Korea or Japan. 

My nephew was there for 2 years and was earning rather good money.  One of my daughters spent 2 years in the North of Japan and had a good time. 

From their reports, of Korea and Japan, you can get reasonable paying jobs but there are many side English teaching jobs privately which pay nice money directly.

But in any case, if you do come to Hungary, please post here to let us know how you get on.

I've been to South East Asia and East Asia as a Primary Teacher. So, I would love to try exploring Europe this time. I saw an opportunity in Hungary  so I'm considering it. It's just that the salary package is inferior by 50% to what I received  from Japan and China. Sad reality.

zif wrote:

I've only been in Miskolc once, but found it the least interesting of Hungarian cities. There's a long traditional shopping street but so much of the rest seems to reflect the worst of socialist redevelopment.

I say this because great cities with character are so common in Hungary. Miskolc seems to be an outlier.

Thank you for the heads up. I've been checking it on YouTube and articles. Seems not as vibrant as Budapest and other cities but might be a good place to start.

Everyone has their own favorite city outside Budapest, but if I were to point someone somewhere it'd be to Pécs or Szeged.

healthyandwealthyway wrote:

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I've been to South East Asia and East Asia as a Primary Teacher. So, I would love to try exploring Europe this time. I saw an opportunity in Hungary  so I'm considering it. It's just that the salary package is inferior by 50% to what I received  from Japan and China. Sad reality.

Yes, it's lower paid over here.   But for a year and for the adventure, it could be tolerable. 

As I said, Korea is about the same as Japan but I believe it's relatively cheap there.

BTW, there are international schools in Budapest.  Don't know about their hiring plans.

Whatever you do, good luck!