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Norte-americano ..explicando porque odiou o Brasil

i don't  believe this is written  by north American but who knows

http://pensadoranonimo.com.br/norte-ame … map=%5B%5D

With no idea who came up with it and the comments from whoever published it, it's pointless rubbish.

I think is interesting and most of the  descriptions  are true , but at the same time i believe it is written by Brazilian.. just to make some noise on the internet and create discussions.

lol....I gave up after number 20. ....very long list

I had a typical Brazilian experience in the Kilo place yesterday, so I'm getting my food and these to idiots are just standing having a conversation blocking half the spread and totally oblivious to everyone else trying to squeeze past them to get there food.....and these are educated guys.

Something like this happens everyday.....usually multiple times

I'm from the midwestern US and have lived and worked in SP for about 8 years.  To me, this sounds like a typical list of complaints by a North American, but as someone else says: it's rubbish.  Some of the things are true, but it looks to me the guy had actually very limited experience here and there are many, many good things that aren't pointed out ... even some of the criticisms are just simple value judgments (e.g., he doesn't like the food ... my God, what does he want? The stale packaged and frozen food that's common in the US?  He can get that here if he wants, but apparently he didn't know that and had to suffer with boring, fresh food).  So, the writer doesn't like Brazil ... .  Wow.  Many people do and I'm one of the many.  Cheers, JMc

I agree with you....I havn't spent much time in the USA, but these behaviours are common in any big city. I agree the food thing is a bit ridiculous

I saw the same exact post several time overs the years. It has been recycled regularly by people who wants to create a viral post and it works.
Well, they are actually some true points, some other wrong or stupid.
In the past I agreed with most of the points, no I don't!... I think I am becoming Brazilian.
For example: I love super cold beer.

Skol ? Itaipava ? Brama ?

Among other things, the one thing that irritates me most is how people walk on the sidewalk without regards for others. Sometimes you see three guys walking side by side on a narrow sidewalk and they won't move to leave space for the oncoming person...as if you should melt or disappear for them. Well, my reaction depends on my mood. I've barged into such people a couple of times before. Other times, I just chill and step onto the road

I´ve been here for years and I agree of the points well taken. I´d like to add some more:

1. If you´re a gringo, don´t move to a very small town. You´ll stick up like a sore thumb and the locals are usually suspicious that you´re running away from justice from your own country. Police was sent to investigate at my residence in Pomerode and Benedito Novo, Sta Catarina. Better to live in a bigger city like a population of 160,000. Police would require that you report to their headquartes first, show ID before staying put and reside. Remains of dictatorship in Brazil...

2. Don´t park at night close to elite or gated communities especially along beach areas. Residents would be suspicious of you as a thief or a criminal and they would call the police to investigate. Your car will be probed and opened without probable
cause and any evidence even if illegally obtained without your permission will be admissible in court. This country is not the US.

3. Any promises from any Brazilian should be taken with a grain of salt. Most don´t have a word of honor and lies and deceipt is common practice - even among acquiantance or friends.

4. Whatever you do, DON´T LEND ANY MONEY. Scores of people owe me money and
for years I haven´t seen a penny paid.

5. As long as you pay the beer, you´ll have lots of friends.

6. Don´t linger and stay too long in bars. Brazilians who are drunk are very aggressive and you can easily be misunderstood where a fight can easily ensue. Their justice system is very inefficient and slow. If you´re older it´s difficult to defend yourself against younger guys because you are not anymore allowed to carry a firearm in public.

7. I f you´re buying a real estate, do it alone without a Brazilian partner. One abandoned
the partnership after a few months and I was left holding the bag. The owner of the land then broke the contract and now I filed a lawsuit and has been pending for 6 years now.

8. If you buy a real estate, do it with an imobiliaria with a contract drawn. Don´t do it with the owner privately because they don´t usually hold up to their promises. Everything should be always in writing. Make sure also that the land they´re selling you has a passageway to the property and not lanlocked where you have to traverse other properties before reaching your property. Many properties are like that and Brazilian owners don´t usually tell you. CAVEAT EMPTOR!

9. Brazilians really dislikes people who contradicts them. If they offer that they bring meat to be barbecued to your house you should agree to "SHOW RESPECT". And so with
what they´re telling you. Make sure you pay attention and AGREE to what they´re telling you and again to show "RESPECT."

10. Many Brazilians if not most don´t like that you´re above them in wealth and resources. So don´t talk about money or achievements if possible especially in bars where there´s alcohol involved.

11. Be carefull of choosing your friend. Many if not most are opportunists.

12. Life is difficult in Brazil. They steal any item that´s been made easy for them to pilfer.
One time someone stole my hammock and my slippers along the beach.

13. Brazilians DEMAND respect by all means but they themselves disrespect you routinely. Many if not all only thinks of themselves.

14. Many Brazilians drive without license or irregular paperwork. A guy wrecked my car´s door with his
car with illegal paperwork a few months ago. He begged that I don´t call the police for a "boletim de ocorrência" because
his car is not legal and it would be towed away with corresponding fines and points against his driving
license. Because of pity I did not, as he promised he would pay and repair my car. My car was for 3 weeks languishing in a garage he recommended without being repaired and after giving him 4 estimates with other shops he opted for the cheapest one. My car´s door was repaired but I had to shoulder all the expenses for the repair as he gather the amount. The guy since disappeared and did not pay. A lawsuit is pending at a Juizado Especial Civel (small claims court) but the justice system at this time is unable to locate him to serve the papers. LESSON: i SHOULD HAVE CALLED THE POLICE
and to hell with that irregular paperwork. He should not be driving in the first place!

I can go on and on but I think I made my point. THIS IS BRAZIL and not the US! You have to be flexible and clever to live in Brazil. You´re fearless because you´re smarter!

robal

I can agree with the majority of your points Robal! However, I've experienced lawsuits involving an American usually go pretty fast because they think you have a bunch of money.

Yes, there's bias as Brazilian authorities would like to show that they're protecting
their citizens against Yankee imperialists who
are arrogant and disrespectful to their role of laws. Look what happened to our swimmers
that came to the Olympics.

Robal, while you may have good points, the activities of guys like Lochte is not something to be proud of. They messed up and LIED!!!

Oh you mean the case goes faster because a rich American initiates a case?

Everybody whatever nationality goes to their very slow justice system... Judges have 3mos
vacation per year!  No wonder nothing gets
done!

Both parties lied - Brazil and the US but the reaction of the Brazilian authorities was
exaggerated. They wanted to extradite Lochte. How many extraditions did the US
requested from Brazil that were all turned
down?

I get your point. What I'm saying is don't make this a Brazil vs USA thing.
Badly behaved adults deserve whatever they get.
And falsely accusing the security personnel of another country of offenses of such gravity should involve extradition. We all need to respect any place we find ourselves.
That's my point.

This is not a case of USA VS Brazil thing. Respect
is for all - whatever the nationality. But Brazil
has negated extradition of their citizens that
have committed serious crimes in the US.

Ok. So, since Brazil wouldn't extradite her criminals to the USA, we all should misbehave as we like and not expected to be extradited. At the end, we can put it down to Brazilian greed and hatred for gringos. Laughable.
Have a great day gentlemen.

Brazilian greed and hatred for Gringos? Laughable? Not at all. You should look at how the case evolved. According to the reports they did not even enter the bathroom to vandalize... They urinated at the back
of the toilet! And I´d believe that they were at gunpoint by the security officers of the gas station to extort money. Now, that´s robbery and a crime punishable by law.

Extradition for vandalism? Common!

If they really messed up like you said, where´s the extradition that you would like to happen?

robal

You missed a point there about Lochte..  I don't think Brazililians have any issues with American. The public reprobation was because, it is was the well known case of the rich man or the famous one breaching the law and getting a favorable treatment from the justice system....It happens everyday here and people are quite tired of that.
Also, there was not much interesting news or records during the last Olympics, so the the press jumped on the story of "the famous american swimmer" making a mess at a gaz station".

Well, during Lochte´s incident a lot of people at places I frequented commented a lot about an arrogant American again belittleing Brazil as usual and disrespecting the laws of the land. They cited one famous incident at an airport where an American tourist from New York showed his middle finger with his passport as he was being photographed for identification purposes by the Policia Federal. He went to prison and was fined R$30,000 for the offense. There were more instances they cited as American offenses against the "downtrodden" Brazil and they reason that they relate better with the European Union, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, China etc. Some of those countries are not favorable to US relations and they do more trade with them.

I really feel bad when Brazilians I know, talk like that in my presence everytime unfortunate incidents about an American in Brazil happens. I really feel that american reputation has been continuosly in ruins not only here but abroad. A lot of nations has lost confidence on the friendly, reliable and respectful american.

Those example of incidents I cited above must have had a big influence on their local authorities by the way they handled the Lochte case. They´re cracking down on another gringo disrespecting their land and lying to them.

Lochte did not have a favorable outcome at first as Brazil threatened to extradite him.
Extradite? Would you surrender your boys (olympic heroes) to a country that disrespect human rights? One example: Many times they did not honor their extradition treaty with the US by negating extradition requests for serious crimes committed by their citizens.
They should be paying more attention on the 13 murders per day (more than 5,000 per year) in Rio during that time, rather than creating an international incident  committed  by an intoxicated American. They should have paid more attention of how they could
obtain the funds to pay their police officers which they were short of. I´m sure there were crimes committed by other nationalities during the olympics. Why an American
being showcased in a drama?

Why the reaction? I think because of prior histories. And Brazil does not want to be pushed around by any superpower.

But at the end, both appeased each other - Lochte in tears apologizing and Brazil lowered their rhetorics, dropping the case and declaring that there was no crime committed because he did not initiate the crime report but the police.

Overall, I still see Brazil as being a leftist government, and does not like a lot of american
ideologies...

Anybody can label it as USA vs Brazil or other description. I don´t care. It´s your opinion!

robal

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