Hello! Looking to move to Hungary.

Chikagoan wrote:

I personally resent how non-Hungarians move to Hungary and expect Hungary to conform to their vision of a politically correct and multi-cultural society, in direct opposition to what most Hungarians want.
I am sure that this will leash a firestorm of indignant replies, which is OK. It is fun to read and respond and fostering honest debate is beneficial.

Well to me it seems that Hungarians (ok, not all, otherwise it would be perfect) are happy with the current government from what I read about Hungary.

Vicces1 wrote:

Not a farm, but I do have a dog who gets regularly spoiled at cafes across Budapest. They let her walk around and give her water. I've tried to teach her to bring me beers but hasn't worked yet....

My wife brings the beers but then I do the cooking.

davemoore wrote:

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Well to me it seems that Hungarians (ok, not all, otherwise it would be perfect) are happy with the current government from what I read about Hungary.

Well, not really. 

About 45% voted for the current government.  The rest voted for a fragmented mish-mash of other parties. So 55% voted for someone else.   

The main beef at the moment is that the current government is creating a situation where certain liberties will be curtailed in the name of some random thing like immigration or the evilness of George Soros or the Judges etc.  These liberties are easily lost and hard fought to obtain.  Currently they try to soften it by calling it an illiberal democracy (an oxymoron). It's relatively easy to draw comparisons that it's modelled somewhat on Putin's Russia.

fluffy2560 wrote:

davemoore wrote:

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Well to me it seems that Hungarians (ok, not all, otherwise it would be perfect) are happy with the current government from what I read about Hungary.

Well, not really. 

About 45% voted for the current government.  The rest voted for a fragmented mish-mash of other parties. So 55% voted for someone else.   

The main beef at the moment is that the current government is creating a situation where certain liberties will be curtailed in the name of some random thing like immigration or the evilness of George Soros or the Judges etc.  These liberties are easily lost and hard fought to obtain.  Currently they try to soften it by calling it an illiberal democracy (an oxymoron). It's relatively easy to draw comparisons that it's modelled somewhat on Putin's Russia.

But why did 45% vote for the current government, and is it better there now or before the current government?

fluffy2560 wrote:

davemoore wrote:

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I will visit Budapest when I am there as I do like architecture and would like to visit the Christmas market. I did go to Sopron (my brother and his wife) wanted to go to C&A, they have  thing about shopping so we went for the day. I think the Austrians like to go across the border for the food (I found it cheap to eat out in Hungary) and the food is tasty if I say so myself.

If you like Vienna, you'll have deja-vu in Budapest.

There's a big wheel there at the moment, like the London Eye but IMHO the Xmas market ain't up to much (are any of them?). 

I hope when you were in Sopron you visited Chen's Chinese Cooking.   Excellent Chinese buffet and not too expensive either - it's next to the OBI and opposite Tescos - it's on the top floor of the shopping centre..

No, brother busy in C&A, I am not one for shopping, now, something to eat and coffee and cake that's what I call shopping.

fluffy2560 wrote:

atomheart wrote:

davemoore wrote:

Now what I would like to know, if possible, the areas, towns, villages etc to avoid, as I understand crime is very little in parts of Hungary.

In general you'll want to avoid villages/towns with a huge gipsy population, they're the poorest stratum of society in Hungary, making them more prone to crime. If you move to a village with lots of them, the question is not IF or WHEN your house is getting burgled, but HOW OFTEN! If you use google image search for "ciganyok reszaranya megyenkent", you'll find maps showing the "bad" countys with a darker color.

I hate to concur with that kind of sentiment but it's generally true.  There are gangs of them here and there.  They are well organised and brazen. 

Generally burglars will steal your stuff but won't kill you or beat you up.  They won't come in if you are at home - never heard of a home invasion. 

But, we've been burgled - obviously by Spiderman - as we were on the 1st floor that time.  Screwdrivered the patio doors and stole my kids pocket money. Insurance coughed up. Neighbours have been burgled - they weren't insured.   I've had my car stolen. Had my other cars broken into into a couple of times - smashed a window and one idiot ripped the lock out and stole about 20 Ft and my fire extinguisher. Nothing else in it but major door damage - I started to leave it unlocked.  I've also been pickpocketed.  That's maybe 5-6 incidents over 23 years. 

I now live in a house with security doors, shutters, floodlights, metal bars on vulnerable windows,  alarm, motion detecting cameras and soon, a big dog in the garden.  According to the cops, we'll never be a target as there are much softer targets around - why choose us?  Apparently the police say in my village, there were 200 burglaries in the past year.  I think that's pretty high but it's not that urban here - houses spread out, plenty of trees etc.  There's a high level of twitchy curtains here which is quite good if a little nosey.

My Hungarian Canadian friend used to keep a .22 pistol in his house in addition to his dog, alarm etc.    That's  utterly OTT.

Just for the record, where do you live, I will avoid that area.

The silly Soros issue aside, most Hungarians support FIDESZ or Jobbik over the socialists or other left-wing parties (http://www.tarki.hu/hu/research/elect/g … le_02.html)
Consequently the Hungarian populace is in favor largely of  government policies based on polling.
Furthermore, not only Hungarians, but in fact most Europeans, do not want continued extensive immigration, particularly from Muslim countries. (https://www.voanews.com/a/poll-shows-eu … 18337.html) Hungarians and Slovaks are of course the most anti-immigrant. (https://dailynewshungary.com/central-eu … ent-quota/) (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 … the-world/)

Hungary is a  nice place for people in search of peace, low cost of living, and decreased ethnic diversity.
If you want an expensive multicultural paradise, head to Brussels (Molenbeek) or the suburbs of Paris. There you can enjoy the armored personnel carriers and combat troops patrolling the streets in attempts to prevent more knifings and  bombings.

Chikagoan wrote:

...blah-blah....

Hungary is a  nice place for people in search of peace, low cost of living, and decreased ethnic diversity.
If you want an expensive multicultural paradise, head to Brussels (Molenbeek) or the suburbs of Paris,...blah-blah....

Hey, we live here in Europe.  We carry on as normal as there's nothing else you can do.

Sure there are terrorists and idiots around.  But that kind of crime is insignificant compared to the daily death toll in the USA from guns. And besides, you have lunatics there too - look at the bombing of the FBI building in Oklahoma City.  It's a lot harder to get weapons in Europe than the USA.

But we've been over this ground - confusing immigrants with refugees and confusing Trump tweets with reality.   And mixing up amorphous "ethnic" thing with it.

Have some covfefe to calm down. 

As for the polls, the polling is usually rubbished here because turnouts are below the level needed to make valid.   But it's usually a case of ask a loaded (stupid) question and get a  loaded (stupid) answer. 

Spending 70M+ EUR on fences is equivalent of Bear Patrol

As I said before, you need to do your research as politics in Hungary and everywhere else is not a single issue.   My main concern is erosion of liberties and freedoms that distant spectators in other places seem to think are utterly unimportant.  Inevitably these policies will be put down again and again by the ECHR just the same as The Donald's star will wane.

davemoore wrote:

.....Just for the record, where do you live, I will avoid that area.

Yes, definitely avoid around here, it's a utter den of iniquity, depravity, vice and bad parking habits.

The crimes I mentioned were in Districts III, V, XIII and in my village (see location marker in the title of my postings).  These were spread out over 23 years. 

Cannot say about anywhere else but one should exercise the usual cautions and common sense like anywhere else.

I expect the burglary level will drop to almost zero when they catch them (must be a gang).

My main concern is that when I move to Hungary shortly it is not a menagerie, like some parts of   Western European and North American cities, including the US of A.

Chikagoan wrote:

My main concern is that when I move to Hungary shortly it is not a menagerie, like some parts of   Western European and North American cities, including the US of A.

You will be disappointed because it's already full of many different types of people.  There aren't ghettos as such - except gypsy ones - but in time I expect there would be different types of neighbourhoods appearing.   I'm looking forward to a Budapest Chinatown.

You can already see demand for diversity of international restaurants - Turkish, Indian, Mexican, Chinese, Thai, Japanese etc.  It's all good.

The only way you can insulate yourself is to live in a village or a town far away from anywhere else but most people are trying to get away from those kinds of places.

Well my bubble seems to have had a needle stuck in it and as for my rose tinted glasses, they have been truly stepped on. No not really, it seems to me that Budapest is not for me, not that I wanted to live there (maybe for a day visit) and I think I will stick with Kasposvar area and out a bit.

Kaposvar is a nice town. I've been through it and it looked really calm and nice. Budapest is much busier and more congested.

Chikagoan wrote:

Kaposvar is a nice town. I've been through it and it looked really calm and nice. Budapest is much busier and more congested.

I like calm and nice and I want to be just out off the town, country side really and looking for places that have very little crime or none. Where I live at present there are only 7 houses and only 3 of them are occupied full time, the other houses 4 weeks or so of the year. Any car comes down and you look who it is (bit annoying really). So trying to get info on areas in Hungary that are good seems to be a bit of hit and miss.

My impression is that there isn't that much crime in Kaposvar, but residents should be able to answer that question better than I. It would seem that crime results from the presence of gangs, specifically 'roma' gangs, according to the postings on this thread.

Hello everyone,

Please note that we have put aside some off-topic posts.

It would be better to provide information about the topic (post #1) and to guide davemoore, who is afterall the initiator of this thread, by avoiding any controversy on his topic.

All the best,
Bhavna

davemoore wrote:

My wife brings the beers but then I do the cooking.

You've obviously trained your wife better than I've trained my dog!
:-)

Vicces1 wrote:

davemoore wrote:

My wife brings the beers but then I do the cooking.

You've obviously trained your wife better than I've trained my dog!
:-)

My wife said to me the other day, that I can do the Christmas cooking (she was burning the bacon at that time), now I am not a great cook but she prefers my cooking to her own or she, on purpose, burns the food to get out of it. Still at least I know the smoke detectors work well.

I knew a Frenchman once who said he does all the cooking because his wife is really not that great at it. She does the laundry in return.
It's all give and take in marriage!
Personally, I love cooking. It's the menu that annoys me.
Man:  What do you want for dinner?
Woman: Anything is fine.
Man: OK, I'll make chicken.
Woman: No, I don't want that.
Man: OK, I'll make fish.
Woman: No, not that either.
Man: OK, what do you want?
Woman: You decide.

Every day ending in "Y". 

fluffy2560 wrote:

Chikagoan wrote:

My main concern is that when I move to Hungary shortly it is not a menagerie, like some parts of   Western European and North American cities, including the US of A.

You will be disappointed because it's already full of many different types of people.  There aren't ghettos as such - except gypsy ones - but in time I expect there would be different types of neighbourhoods appearing.   I'm looking forward to a Budapest Chinatown.

You can already see demand for diversity of international restaurants - Turkish, Indian, Mexican, Chinese, Thai, Japanese etc.  It's all good.

The only way you can insulate yourself is to live in a village or a town far away from anywhere else but most people are trying to get away from those kinds of places.

Except the ones who want to move to those places, to be honest if I wanted the above restaurants I would have stayed back in my own country and home town. I like going to other countries to experience their food and ways, don't really want to go to Hungary for a Indian. I think and what I like is the richness in Hungarian food, good honest food. Not that food is the only reason I would like to move there. I remember driving and seeing family sitting on their land around a table eating and tending to their plot, yes this may be idyllic but nice to see family/people still doing that. I do not want to isolate myself from the culture in that country (I can do that in my own country) but like to live with the people and land around me.

fluffy2560 wrote:

You can already see demand for diversity of international restaurants - Turkish, Indian, Mexican, Chinese, Thai, Japanese etc.  It's all good.

Stop it! You are making me hungry!!! 

fluffy2560 wrote:

The only way you can insulate yourself is to live in a village or a town far away from anywhere else but most people are trying to get away from those kinds of places.

There is an exodus of youth. Not much future here for them. Plenty of elderly people left however who can not afford to leave.

davemoore wrote:

I like calm and nice and I want to be just out off the town, country side really and looking for places that have very little crime or none. Where I live at present there are only 7 houses and only 3 of them are occupied full time, the other houses 4 weeks or so of the year. Any car comes down and you look who it is (bit annoying really). So trying to get info on areas in Hungary that are good seems to be a bit of hit and miss.

I live in the countryside. We are the only full time residents on the entire road we live on (but one neighbor does spend a lot of time here).

Yes, it is very calm. Very quite. Even "dead" in the winter. I like that. I spent half my life in enormous urban areas. That was fun. Oh, my, what a blast. But now like the quiet.

There is crime, but mostly opportunistic. Don't leave tools out. Don't leave your door unlocked even if you go into the garden out back. A car may be broken into if they see something of value on the seat. And a gang went around a few years ago breaking into homes and stealing copper wire (more damage to the homes than the wire was worth). Some say to just leave a 5,000 HUF bill by the door. If someone breaks in they just take that and go.

Here, as people drive by they stare at me if I am outside working. Some even slow down to stare at me. The opposite of staring at the car. I got so annoyed by that, I started to stop working turn toward the road and directly stare back. And that gets the driver to suddenly accelerate.

klsallee wrote:

davemoore wrote:

I like calm and nice and I want to be just out off the town, country side really and looking for places that have very little crime or none. Where I live at present there are only 7 houses and only 3 of them are occupied full time, the other houses 4 weeks or so of the year. Any car comes down and you look who it is (bit annoying really). So trying to get info on areas in Hungary that are good seems to be a bit of hit and miss.

I live in the countryside. We are the only full time residents on the entire road we live on (but one neighbor does spend a lot of time here).

Yes, it is very calm. Very quite. Even "dead" in the winter. I like that. I spent half my life in enormous urban areas. That was fun. Oh, my, what a blast. But now like the quiet.

There is crime, but mostly opportunistic. Don't leave tools out. Don't leave your door unlocked even if you go into the garden out back. A car may be broken into if they see something of value on the seat. And a gang went around a few years ago breaking into homes and stealing copper wire (more damage to the homes than the wire was worth). Some say to just leave a 5,000 HUF bill by the door. If someone breaks in they just take that and go.

Here, as people drive by they stare at me if I am outside working. Some even slow down to stare at me. The opposite of staring at the car. I got so annoyed by that, I started to stop working turn toward the road and directly stare back. And that gets the driver to suddenly accelerate.

I might take to working in the garden with no clothes on with feathers on my head as a hat dancing around a smokey fire, holding up a sacrificed chicken and chanting a few words  that make no sense whatsoever. Mind you if I see a couple of men in white coats holding a straight jacket, time to move on I think.

davemoore wrote:

I might take to working in the garden with no clothes on with feathers on my head as a hat dancing around a smokey fire, holding up a sacrificed chicken and chanting a few words  that make no sense whatsoever.

Tried that. Didn't work. Then the car just stops and the occupants start to take pictures. I may even be a meme somewhere now.....

Stopping work, leaning on the garden hoe and just stare back. That works.

Being "naked" and doing ones gardening in Hungary is "normal" how many times have I seen topless ladies mowing their lawns, can't even keep count.
OK, so they weren't bottom less but one of these days... Nothing what's so ever "shocks " me these days and I have done time in Las Vegas and NYC.
Starring back or even saying something as innocent as, " May I help you" will get a reaction for sure!
Being "Buck Naked" is not a big deal here in Hungary.
Before I met my husband he used to "hang" out, ha, ha at nudest beaches in S. Ca. back in the Hippie daze... Now the US is more conservative.
Once on holiday On Maui we drove over to a special new beach area that we were told about. turns out it was a nudest beach.
Before I could say, Boo, my husband had gone ala natural... We had driven way to long and far to not take a dip in the water...
I stood out because I left my new one piece swimsuit on, it was white and brand new, little did I realize after it had gotten wet that it was sheer! Sometimes you can't win for losing!!
I am a very shy person, will not undress in front of just anyone, never, ever honestly saw any of my sisters and God forbid my mother in the raw. How could I be comfortable in front of strangers? My Cousins wife this past summer who is from Thailand sort of freaked out when she had to undress at a spa  to put on her swimsuit. I understood her and took a huge bath towel and hung it up to cover her while she put her suit on,not many people are as shy as we are, different cultures I suppose.
I once worked for 2 weeks in a strip club in NYC , served drinks and was covered from neck to foot in a black outfit, no one even looked twice at us servers, their eyes were center stage... Still a weird experience.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Being "naked" and doing ones gardening in Hungary is "normal" how many times have I seen topless ladies mowing their lawns, can't even keep count.
OK, so they weren't bottom less but one of these days... Nothing what's so ever "shocks " me these days and I have done time in Las Vegas and NYC.
Starring back or even saying something as innocent as, " May I help you" will get a reaction for sure!
Being "Buck Naked" is not a big deal here in Hungary.
Before I met my husband he used to "hang" out, ha, ha at nudest beaches in S. Ca. back in the Hippie daze... Now the US is more conservative.
Once on holiday On Maui we drove over to a special new beach area that we were told about. turns out it was a nudest beach.
Before I could say, Boo, my husband had gone ala natural... We had driven way to long and far to not take a dip in the water...
I stood out because I left my new one piece swimsuit on, it was white and brand new, little did I realize after it had gotten wet that it was sheer! Sometimes you can't win for losing!!
I am a very shy person, will not undress in front of just anyone, never, ever honestly saw any of my sisters and God forbid my mother in the raw. How could I be comfortable in front of strangers? My Cousins wife this past summer who is from Thailand sort of freaked out when she had to undress at a spa  to put on her swimsuit. I understood her and took a huge bath towel and hung it up to cover her while she put her suit on,not many people are as shy as we are, different cultures I suppose.
I once worked for 2 weeks in a strip club in NYC , served drinks and was covered from neck to foot in a black outfit, no one even looked twice at us servers, their eyes were center stage... Still a weird experience.

Ok, but surely dancing around a fire chanting some words may be off putting, or there and again not. I think I would have to be way out in the countryide to be safe, looking at all things being said, thi is not painting a rosie picture for me.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Being "naked" and doing ones gardening in Hungary is "normal" how many times have I seen topless ladies mowing their lawns, can't even keep count.
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I once worked for 2 weeks in a strip club in NYC , served drinks and was covered from neck to foot in a black outfit, no one even looked twice at us servers, their eyes were center stage... Still a weird experience.

And there's that other thing they do where they (men and women) tend their "country plots" in their underwear.   Seen that many a time.   And some of those guys should buy the next size up in underpants next time.

As several of us have said before about your colourful experiences, your NYC adventure - that's another one for your forthcoming book!

fluffy2560 wrote:

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Being "naked" and doing ones gardening in Hungary is "normal" how many times have I seen topless ladies mowing their lawns, can't even keep count.
....
I once worked for 2 weeks in a strip club in NYC , served drinks and was covered from neck to foot in a black outfit, no one even looked twice at us servers, their eyes were center stage... Still a weird experience.

And there's that other thing they do where they (men and women) tend their "country plots" in their underwear.   Seen that many a few times.   And some of those guys should buy the next size up in underpants next time.

As several of us have said before about your colourful experiences, your NYC adventure - that's another one for your forthcoming book!

I take it not boxers then? that must be a bit of a fright.

davemoore wrote:

.....I take it not boxers then? that must be a bit of a fright.

Boxers? Never heard of them

Actually, the same experiences can be had at Balaton but the ladies tend to be a little more conventional down at the beach.

Yes, just call me a prude...
Ill fitting clothing is one of my pet peeves.
I have been lucky enough to not see anyone in their "tidy whites" outdoors but once I did see a overweight man at Balaton wearing a tiny Speedo, not a big deal except the material was in a pattern of a US flag.
Almost brought out the patriot in me, it was going a bit too far for good taste.
I thought how would he feel if someone so "gross looking" was wearing a flag of his country? Turn around is fair play after all.
To be kind however, one can chose to wear any sort of "fashion" they like over here.
Mixing a old jacket from the 80's or 70's with the latest slacks and shoes is not breaking any fashion rules. The more individual one dresses the better.
I do love cold weather dressing more then summer, doesn't matter where one lives, many people seem to not check how they look in the mirror before leaving the house, shorts aren't for everyone.
Hope this is still on topic, about swimsuits showing a bit too much of the "private regions".
Last summer I noticed, I mean one could not help but notice, several young women laying out on the pavement near the local swimming pool.
They wore those string bottom swimsuits, Brazilian style or whatever they are called, nearly nothing at all, the entire "neither region" exposed for the most part.
Not modest by any standards, ok if your young and fit and lady like that's ok, show it while you got it.
Well these young ladies had their legs spread out open wide for the world to see their goods.
I asked my husband what was up with that, I mean man alive, it was embarrassing to me to even have to see that, not much for the imagination.
My husband informed me that they were probably seeking a sugar daddy and they were " advertizing".
Put two and two together and came out with a logical reason for their display.
So many older men with a few bucks like to spend the day sunbathing and being at the pool side.
These women were on the "prowl".
Only logical reason I could see for it.
I didn't really believe this at first but did get some shocking news about the neighbor lady in our house who lives a few doors down from us.
She is a couple of years older then me and everyone thinks she is a bit much, she talks to everyone and won't let you get away. Have to walk by fast or she gets you caught up in a long conversation about nothing much. Well we were told she spends allot of time at the railway station. OK she can do whatever she wishes.
Thing is we were told she picks up men at the station and that's how she can afford to have several flats in the city. I was really shocked, she looks like someones' granny.
Oh well, guess we ain't in Kansas anymore.
Very common I have heard for women to pick up some cash on the side this way here.
Nothing shocks me these days.
Men too are in need of some spare cash from a sugar mama.
I am naive, about 15 years back at the spa in the city park, my husband and I were swimming about in different pools.
He was doing laps and I was in the "hot water" so to speak.
Some Hungarian man was sitting across from where I was standing, sitting on the area near the fountain. He kept starring at me, I looked away several times, should of just moved away but again, I was a ditz. He then smiled at me and kept waving me over and motioning for me to sit on his lap!
My husband noticed from the lap pool and called me away.
He told me many men try to pick up tourists ladies for money and dinners.
I now never smile back at anyone unless they are very, very old or very, very young.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

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I have been lucky enough to not see anyone in their "tidy whites" outdoors but once I did see a overweight man at Balaton wearing a tiny Speedo, not a big deal except the material was in a pattern of a US flag.
.....
They wore those string bottom swimsuits, Brazilian style or whatever they are called, nearly nothing at all, the entire "neither region" exposed for the most part.
Not modest by any standards, ok if your young and fit and lady like that's ok, show it while you got it.
Well these young ladies had their legs spread out open wide for the world to see their goods.
I asked my husband what was up with that, I mean man alive, it was embarrassing to me to even have to see that, not much for the imagination.
.....

Yes, exactly that's what I'm talking about - fat lobster coloured older guys (too much tan!) in tiny Speedos. 

I think the ladies were just being themselves.   There's far less concerns here about nudity than there are elsewhere. 

Takes all sorts and seems like summer at Balaton has fewer rules than elsewhere.

Tiny Speedo's and gold chains...
I give these young ladies credit for not being shy BUT there still are certain ways of laying down other then" spread eagel".
The days of learning how to sit and get in and out of a car without showing off all the goods are over with I suppose.
Mum used to literally make my two older sisters walk in the house with high heels on with a book on top of their heads. Had to sit in a chair without dropping the book etc.
Lucky for clutsy me, I had a bad knee so she cut me some slack.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Yes, just call me a prude...
Ill fitting clothing is one of my pet peeves.
I have been lucky enough to not see anyone in their "tidy whites" outdoors but once I did see a overweight man at Balaton wearing a tiny Speedo, not a big deal except the material was in a pattern of a US flag.
Almost brought out the patriot in me, it was going a bit too far for good taste.
I thought how would he feel if someone so "gross looking" was wearing a flag of his country? Turn around is fair play after all.
To be kind however, one can chose to wear any sort of "fashion" they like over here.
Mixing a old jacket from the 80's or 70's with the latest slacks and shoes is not breaking any fashion rules. The more individual one dresses the better.
I do love cold weather dressing more then summer, doesn't matter where one lives, many people seem to not check how they look in the mirror before leaving the house, shorts aren't for everyone.
Hope this is still on topic, about swimsuits showing a bit too much of the "private regions".
Last summer I noticed, I mean one could not help but notice, several young women laying out on the pavement near the local swimming pool.
They wore those string bottom swimsuits, Brazilian style or whatever they are called, nearly nothing at all, the entire "neither region" exposed for the most part.
Not modest by any standards, ok if your young and fit and lady like that's ok, show it while you got it.
Well these young ladies had their legs spread out open wide for the world to see their goods.
I asked my husband what was up with that, I mean man alive, it was embarrassing to me to even have to see that, not much for the imagination.
My husband informed me that they were probably seeking a sugar daddy and they were " advertizing".
Put two and two together and came out with a logical reason for their display.
So many older men with a few bucks like to spend the day sunbathing and being at the pool side.
These women were on the "prowl".
Only logical reason I could see for it.
I didn't really believe this at first but did get some shocking news about the neighbor lady in our house who lives a few doors down from us.
She is a couple of years older then me and everyone thinks she is a bit much, she talks to everyone and won't let you get away. Have to walk by fast or she gets you caught up in a long conversation about nothing much. Well we were told she spends allot of time at the railway station. OK she can do whatever she wishes.
Thing is we were told she picks up men at the station and that's how she can afford to have several flats in the city. I was really shocked, she looks like someones' granny.
Oh well, guess we ain't in Kansas anymore.
Very common I have heard for women to pick up some cash on the side this way here.
Nothing shocks me these days.
Men too are in need of some spare cash from a sugar mama.
I am naive, about 15 years back at the spa in the city park, my husband and I were swimming about in different pools.
He was doing laps and I was in the "hot water" so to speak.
Some Hungarian man was sitting across from where I was standing, sitting on the area near the fountain. He kept starring at me, I looked away several times, should of just moved away but again, I was a ditz. He then smiled at me and kept waving me over and motioning for me to sit on his lap!
My husband noticed from the lap pool and called me away.
He told me many men try to pick up tourists ladies for money and dinners.
I now never smile back at anyone unless they are very, very old or very, very young.

I being a man, will avoid the areas where these young women are, Just for the record though, where is this again?

Ha, ha! You won't have to try very hard to find such interesting sites in the summer!

Chikagoan wrote:

My impression is that there isn't that much crime in Kaposvar, but residents should be able to answer that question better than I. It would seem that crime results from the presence of gangs, specifically 'roma' gangs, according to the postings on this thread.

I think that is my main concern the roma gangs, a bit like in the UK "the do as your likeys" police tend to give them a bit of space. Personally I think the police should go in hard on them.

The police are very easy with everyone now. Today a pizza delivery man was riding his motorbike on the sidewalk straight into on coming walkers, not a bicycle but a engine powered motorbike. My husband said in the old days the police wouldn't even ask him what he was doing, they would of used their battan on his dumb head.
No rules, no laws no one to enforce them.
Have to be very careful now where you buy a countryside home, some villages are nice and some are getting outlaw.
I am all for personal freedom but not at the expense of the majority.

davemoore wrote:

Chikagoan wrote:

My impression is that there isn't that much crime in Kaposvar, but residents should be able to answer that question better than I. It would seem that crime results from the presence of gangs, specifically 'roma' gangs, according to the postings on this thread.

I think that is my main concern the roma gangs, a bit like in the UK "the do as your likeys" police tend to give them a bit of space. Personally I think the police should go in hard on them.

Sadly is a problem across the whole of Europe, countries are dealing with the problem, but as soon as you deal with one gang, there is another not far away.

SimCityAT wrote:

davemoore wrote:

Chikagoan wrote:

My impression is that there isn't that much crime in Kaposvar, but residents should be able to answer that question better than I. It would seem that crime results from the presence of gangs, specifically 'roma' gangs, according to the postings on this thread.

I think that is my main concern the roma gangs, a bit like in the UK "the do as your likeys" police tend to give them a bit of space. Personally I think the police should go in hard on them.

Sadly is a problem across the whole of Europe, countries are dealing with the problem, but as soon as you deal with one gang, there is another not far away.

I think I might have said this before, one thing I have no tolerance for is stealing. I would still like to know the areas/towns to avoid. I have looked on internet and it just gives you percentage wise the area population. I think I might be a bit spoilt where I am as I think the police have nothing to do, which is a good thing.

davemoore wrote:

...... I would still like to know the areas/towns to avoid. I have looked on internet and it just gives you percentage wise the area population. I think I might be a bit spoilt where I am as I think the police have nothing to do, which is a good thing.

Don't come around here and avoid the neighbouring districts II, IIA, III and XII.   It's terrible.  As for the police patrols, I think I might have seen one around about Easter time.

Just today I saw someone drive up the street the wrong way.  And there are places here where some people just park their electric cars wherever they want including outside their houses. I've even seen people walking their dogs without leads.  There's also a street here where they've built very ornate designed houses with awfully designed gates. They are just such bad taste bling.  I don't know how they live with themselves.