specialized guards license rules for application

Sometimes if you don't ask, you don't get.

I would apply... what's the worst that can happen?  They can say no... but if you don't apply, you'll never know.

Good luck on your ventures

zubrick wrote:

Maybe your better off not telling them that you were in the army fighting in afganistan. Most people dont look at you as being peace keepers but as villians invading another country. I hope you dont take it personal but i am just trying to help you to get the job

Rubbish!!!!!!!!!!!

Apply and use the active service experience to further your argument. Remind them that it is quality not quantity that counts. Turn their requirement to your advantage.
This type of job requires that experience and they have stated they will train you, so use that on your licence application. If it were a desk bound job I may agree with 'zubrick'??? but it is about what is relevant to this particular job and the reason for applying for the licence. Could your potential employer apply for your licence on your behalf? Make it specific to your potential role?
Emphasise being disciplined and calm and clear thinking under stress after all you may be hired to protect money from armed theft. Look at the person skills required (if they are given) and use your experiences to illustrate how you have those skills, relevant to the job and thus, the licence, including diplomacy, negotiating skills.
The person hiring may well have military experience and appreciate what you have done. Be prepared for the question: Why did you leave? Be careful how you answer it. They may at a stretch offer you something else if you 'sell yourself' well enough and you get the licence later.

Good luck. Go for it!! Nothing to lose and all to gain.

'Who Dares Wins'

Also don't rely upon email. Go there, face them, talk to them.
Maltese expression that 'you don't buy a fish in the sea' applies. Get used to the fact that you have to meet people face to face in these matters, that's how business is done, in my experience, on Malta.

I've also PM'd you.

zubrick wrote:

Maybe your better off not telling them that you were in the army fighting in afganistan. Most people dont look at you as being peace keepers but as villians invading another country. I hope you dont take it personal but i am just trying to help you to get the job

Actually most people regard them as bloody heroes mate.

well said - whether you agree with why they were there, the men and women did a heroic job.

Support the Troops, if not the politics.

http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/http://www.ssafa.org.uk/

Inlight of events this past week involving members of my former regiment you could easily get a rise out of me however I will simple explain to you the reason I must tell them I was in the army.
The reason being that in order to apply for the licence you must provide the commis of police proof hat you have served in either the armed forces, police or correctional facility.

In response to saying I was fighting in afghanistan its not a term use as afghanistan is not a war its a counter insurgancy operation. Poeple who have this idea that we are there wandering around from place to place shooting and killing whoever we want is ridiculous. Our ROE used in afghanistan are no diffrent than in the uk card alpha as it is known is the inherit right to self defence within proportion! This being the case no british soldier in afghanistan will fire his weapon in jest unless he is being fired upon himself.

And in support of that, I do believe that the British Forces are now under command of the Afghan Government and remain there at the Afghani's request.
So, no worries from me and just ignore the ignorant.

6327farag wrote:

Inlight of events this past week involving members of my former regiment you could easily get a rise out of me however I will simple explain to you the reason I must tell them I was in the army.
The reason being that in order to apply for the licence you must provide the commis of police proof hat you have served in either the armed forces, police or correctional facility.

In response to saying I was fighting in afghanistan its not a term use as afghanistan is not a war its a counter insurgancy operation. Poeple who have this idea that we are there wandering around from place to place shooting and killing whoever we want is ridiculous. Our ROE used in afghanistan are no diffrent than in the uk card alpha as it is known is the inherit right to self defence within proportion! This being the case no british soldier in afghanistan will fire his weapon in jest unless he is being fired upon himself.

Well said that man......

and in answer to your question; I think the answer is in the licence with 5yrs experience OR been in the armed forces - your record will stand you in good stead and, in my opinion, would be a suitable qualification for application.

Like others have said........give it a go - someone with your enterprise would make a good go of it and succeed.

Good luck mate

Mike

Shame I just found this...............

From:
SUBSIDIARY LEGISLATION 389.01
PRIVATE GUARDS REGULATIONS
27th August, 1996

(2) Any person applying for a licence to act as a private guard
at a place of entertainment or as a specialised private guard shall submit to the Commissioner proof that he has completed a period of five years of service with the police, or the armed forces, or the prison services, in Malta or abroad, or that he has served for a period, or different periods, amounting to no less than five years, as a private guard. The applicant shall be required to provide adequate references atttesting to satisfactory performance of his duties during such term:

http://www.justiceservices.gov.mt/Downl … =10519&l=1

My interpretation is the 5 years applies as it would specify if different and it does not.

Have you calculated your length of service correctly? Have you included attestation ,basic training etc?

Including attestation basic oath etc I can muster up 4 years 9 months.

I have been reading through a few articles in the times of malta with a lot of security proffesionals condeming the rule changes wich took effect as of january this year. There is apparently only 37 licensed guards in places of entertainment in the whole of malta. Security guards prior to january this year only had to be licenecd for 6 mnths prior to the rule change in january to apply for the specialized guards license.

So I am hopeing to work this in my favour by stating I was still employed by hm armed forces until march this year and citing operational experience as an asset and the fact there is an obvious lack of licensed guards on the island. Hopefully it will be taken into consideration when reveiwing my application. All I can do is try I guess!

What do you have to submit to prove length of service?

Just proof of service from the relevant human resource clerk. That wee guy that always seems to get off pt to play on his computer. But I have my testimonial from the co that has my enlistment date on it.

Does it have your discharge date on it?
Can you see what I'm getting at?

Rodger! I also have refrences from my plt commander and sgt major without dates on them.

making a factually incorrect statement, could have nasty consequences

georgeingozo wrote:

making a factually incorrect statement, could have nasty consequences

I would tend to agree with you there George. 

Jono, go with your instincts and, for the sake of those three months, impress upon them your qualities (particularly the operational ones)and capabilities. If there are as few as you say then proper dispensation may be made for your case.

Good luck chap.

Mike

Edit:

I have just re-read what Mick quoted about the regulations and was wondering if you have have done 'any' private guard duties since your discharge that could amount up to three months that may be aggregated to your service time to make up the five years.....

.......it's a possibility that they may take into consideration.

Mike

best close off this one I think before it gets a bit out of hand eh. Zubrik understand what you are trying to say but in the case of the question asked its actually off topic.

by saying i Understand does not mean i agree.

J.

zubrick wrote:

Honestly mick, dont you think the real heroes are the ones that stayed behind to defend their country. By the way i thought we had an army to protect our countries not to occupy someone elses.

Do your homework.....trollboy.


Don't throw stones in glass houses.......

zubrick wrote:

Honestly mick, dont you think the real heroes are the ones that stayed behind to defend their country. By the way i thought we had an army to protect our countries not to occupy someone elses.

georgeingozo wrote:

making a factually incorrect statement, could have nasty consequences

Agreed and I wasn't suggesting that but one could 'be economical with the truth' and unless asked directly, one could remain quiet.
Let them draw their own inferences.