Average $$ electricity power consumption in Vietnam?
i was wondering whether anybody out there can tell me how do i estimate or calculate the electricity power consumption based on an average room ? My room have a Samsung 29" TV (average turn on 5hrs/day), a small fridge (on all the time), a water heater (average usage once a day), PC set (hardly turn on), laptop (average usage 5hrs/day), 2 fluorescent tube lights (hardly turn on), a small desk lamp (average usage 6 hrs/day) and lastly a 1HP air conditioner (average 11hrs/day).
I just need to know with all these usage, how much per month (estimation) would i need to pay because at the moment i stay in a house share with other friends and the electricity bill delivered every month show the total consumption, thus i do not know roughly how much for my room only.
Appreciate anyone who can help me here !
Thanks
Davies
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kWh = kW × hr
Therefore if you have a TV and it sucks 500W/hour (look on Google for consumption) it means that for every two hours it burns one kilowatt (1000 watts).
Similarly, a 100 watt light can burn for 10 hours and consume a kilowatt.
If you look at < http://www.citytrf.net/costs_calculator.htm > you will see a handy calculator to figure everything out.
A lot of Vietnamese in rural areas burn under 100 kilowatts a month which is why there is a special rate for them.
Thanks for the detailed explanation and i finally managed to estimate my own room power consumption. I may not be familiar with all the calculation but based on the formula given I am able to calculate how much i've use average per month.
Cheers
Saigon Visitor wrote:By the way ... the air conditioning is accounting for approx. 2/3 of your overall usage ... probably why most Vietnamese don't use air conditioning much.
Actually a lot of them use A/C when they sleep, they turn the ac down to 16-18 then throw a blanket on to keep warm. One of my friends told me he does it to keep the mozzies away, I suggested using mozzie coils, its way cheaper.
Wild_1 wrote:Vietnam has different rates: residential, business, and overall usage. It penalizes those households that consume more electricity. If I remember correctly, it starts with the first 50 kws, at the lowest rate (residential), and goes from there... It gets really nasty when you go into the 1000 kws range, for business.
NOW I understand the warm beer and unsanitary ice
For example: my house in D.7 have 2 water suppliers, one charges more than VND10.000/m3 which is a contractor of Phu My Hung, the other charges VND5.000/m3 which is a government owned company.
In some area, the electricity is supplied directly from government owned companies, hence the price must be cheaper. In some areas/buildings like special buildings, Phu My Hung, electricity and water is provided by the contractors who signed with the land/project owner. The price there will be raised but it means the quality of water is better, stronger, more stable and you won't care about the power being shutted down sometimes unknowingly or uninformed in advanced.
In a nutshell, the average depends on which service provider and which service package you apply for your residence.
mark stutley wrote:lucky you, in Perth we pay $1: 84/ m3 or kilolitre= 1000 litre thats 36,800 VND and that is for the first 266 kilolitres then it increses to $2:607/ kilolitre
Yes,but in Perth the average wage is not 2000usd a year.
hmd63 wrote:That's in the hand of your landlord...
i have the same question btw
IT IS ILLEGAL FOR ANYONE TO RESELL electricity in VietNam UNLESS they have a contract with EVN. At the last condominium I rented at the builder was paying the main bill (the condominium was unregistered and they had to pay commercial rates).
I complained to EVN about the wrong charges and the reselling process so they fined him and ordered a refund for the 5-year period to all the unit occupiers.
Electricity rates are tiered, the more you use the higher the kilowatt charge. Water, for most forum members, is flat rate per cubic meter. If you use extremely low amounts they have special 'poor people' rates.
Calculating consumption is easy. If you know the wattage, and the time, 1000 watts burned in an hour is a UNIT.
AMPS X VOLTS = WATTS
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If an appliance is rated at 5 amps (@ 120V), the load is 600 watts per hour( 5A X 120V = 600W).
Watts aren't sufficient to measure your power consumption. Watts are multiplied by hours and/or fractions of an hour to come up with watt hours.
WATTS X HOURS = WATT HOURS
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i.e. A 5 amp load for 8 hours a day would come to 4800 watt-hours per day (( 5A X 120V = 600W) X 8hr =4800 watt hours).
Your electrical bill is calculated in kilowatt hours which is just watt hours divided by 1000.
Assembling this to your room. I just pay about 3000/Wat
Regards
koksiewng64 wrote:
Hi there,
i was wondering whether anybody out there can tell me how do i estimate or calculate the electricity power consumption based on an average room ? My room have a Samsung 29" TV (average turn on 5hrs/day), a small fridge (on all the time), a water heater (average usage once a day), PC set (hardly turn on), laptop (average usage 5hrs/day), 2 fluorescent tube lights (hardly turn on), a small desk lamp (average usage 6 hrs/day) and lastly a 1HP air conditioner (average 11hrs/day).
I just need to know with all these usage, how much per month (estimation) would i need to pay because at the moment i stay in a house share with other friends and the electricity bill delivered every month show the total consumption, thus i do not know roughly how much for my room only.
Appreciate anyone who can help me here !
Thanks
Davies
About air conditioning, it consume elec like crazy, but using it is purely personal preference. I would turn it off, or leave it at 24-26 degree C, but I know a lot of other would like to turn it on overnight,.
For your reference, a house of 4 adults, one infant, with 3 working adults, is using 350 to 400 units of measurement, with 1 AC only at night but two fridges.
200/250 000 VND, so 10-12 USD is my guess. This calculation has already a profit od 5 USD for landlord in
EDIT: reading comprehension fail! Mea cupa~
ParadiseCruiser wrote:No round-the-clock fans? You have twenty PC running, you need at least one industrial fan or the air become very hot.
"and loads of fans"
over 2 offices, so one is not really enough to cover distance of almost 10km
l3ully wrote:200/250 000 VND, so 10-12 USD is my guess. This calculation has already a profit od 5 USD for landlord in
What do you mean?
By the way, I dont know how the landlord adjusts this electric meter. My friend lives in a big house with many rooms and she rents one of the rooms. She said Those meters "run" very fast. I think they changes sth there right?
Dejavu.dot wrote:l3ully wrote:200/250 000 VND, so 10-12 USD is my guess. This calculation has already a profit od 5 USD for landlord in
What do you mean?
By the way, I don't know how the landlord adjusts this electric meter. My friend lives in a big house with many rooms and she rents one of the rooms. She said Those meters "run" very fast. I think they changes sth there right?
As I said above LLs CANNOT RESELL ELECTRICITY LEGALLY WITHOUT AN AGREEMENT with EVN. The reason is because so many LL were ripping tenants off.
ALSO try turning your supply OFF and see anyone else complains about no power - LL often cross connect meters and wiring!
1. Use a chinese power equipment to connect to electric network
2. Change the lead in elec meter/stop sth rotating there
3. build up a system under the wall when they build up the house with a remote control to effect elec meter
4. Use galvanometer which has a flattened copper rod, about 1 cm wide, one end of the copper rod and sharpening curved sickle. This copper rod inserted threaded through the galvanometer plastic box, with wires exposed at the foam on the Müller-phase power cable design. The other end of the bar is the same plug, power socket pins on the right side of the galvanometer, have the effect of turning the galvanometer drive slow or no spin.
They dont sell electric illegally jaitch. Lodges will pay for their elec using and give them electric income. It also happens with water.
Dejavu.dot wrote:They dont sell electric illegally jaitch. Lodges will pay for their elec using and give them electric income. It also happens with water.
AGAIN, selling electricity WITHOUT AN AGREEMENT WITH EVN IS ILLEGAL.
It's the law. Period.
(I knicked an unregistered condominium and they had to refund for 5 years - EVN prosecuted the case)
colinoscapee wrote:Its also illegal to drive up the road the wrong way,run red lights,writing fake land titles. Since when something being illegal stopped anyone.
When EVN gets a complaint served up complete with evidence. EVN can cut power, and does, if their service is abused.
Jaitch wrote:colinoscapee wrote:Its also illegal to drive up the road the wrong way,run red lights,writing fake land titles. Since when something being illegal stopped anyone.
When EVN gets a complaint served up complete with evidence. EVN can cut power, and does, if their service is abused.
Yes, thats right. Same as most utilities.
Our electric bill is around 400kD a month, but we have no flourescent lights or incandescent bulbs, all lighting is by very economical LED.
Scarletvn wrote:For example: my house in D.7 have 2 water suppliers, one charges more than VND10.000/m3 which is a contractor of Phu My Hung, the other charges VND5.000/m3 which is a government owned company.
In some area, the electricity is supplied directly from government owned companies, hence the price must be cheaper. In some areas/buildings like special buildings, Phu My Hung, electricity and water is provided by the contractors who signed with the land/project owner. The price there will be raised but it means the quality of water is better, stronger, more stable and you won't care about the power being shutted down sometimes unknowingly or uninformed in advanced.
A friend who lives in the swamp at the end if Phu Thuan, Quan 7 in a high rise condominium as a tenant showed me his Maintenance Fee invoice. The crooked condominium was selling water to Foreigners at the highest rate.
We went down to Nuoc Nha Be, the government owned entity that supplies water well beyond just Quan 7, and we were advised that no one can resell their water at a cost higher than the published rates.
For residential, these are: 0-4m3/5,300(water)+530(BVMT)+265(VAT) for a total of VND6,095; 4-6m3 is total cost of VND11,730; 6-unlimited is a total cost of 13,110/m3.
EVN rates are national and cannot be resold for a profit. Unless a landlord has a contract with EVN, which stipulates resale price as same as theirs, they cannot resell to make a profit. Condominium building common elements are considered to be 'residential'. Only registered condominiums can get residential rates!
But this seems to have changes to discussion on Electricity Rates, so ....
But anyway latest electricity rates.
In a Vietnamese apt block with rate controls
First 48 kw are at 1388 dong/kw
next 48 kw at 1433 dong/kw
next 97 kw at 1660 dong/kw
next rate is 2082 dong/kw
My bills for at 50m2 one bed apt with one fridge, Flow thru HWS and A/C for sleeping
Nov 41kw => 62,599 (I was away and only GF stayed, ie no AC)
Dec 145kw => 236,277
Jan 218kw => 383,326
Feb 168kw => 280,421
Last year in a Service Apartment in Thao Dien Hem 216 (Top floor with 2 A/c)
Aug 503 kw @3150 = 1,584,450 vnd
Sept 417kw @ 3150 = 1,313,550 vnd
So now using less, but rate is way less too.
I was quoted when Apartment hunting elec rates of 3000 - 4500/kwH
So much for pricing controls!!!!
Found this xxx to fins a phone number on which to complain ........... hmmm no luck there
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