Best joint doctors : Knees in HCMC

Dear Half,

1. If you are in Ho Chi Minh city, you can check with FV hospital to consult with Orthopediist, dr PHAT. He returns to VN ffrom Germany, and is reliable.

2. Or you can also book appointment with dr. Trong Anh, orthopedist at F H as well.

You are easy to check these name on website.

3. Tel for appointment at FVH is : 08 54113333

Tks.
Thanh

I always think of Phap Viet as PVH. Several years ago PHV was my hospital of choice.

Some of the newer Vietnamese Hospitals have gotten much better and my wife and I currently use City International Hospital.

While it is generally agreed that the most qualified Vietnamese Doctors work at Cho Ray, Cho Ray is a mad-house. Been treated there.

From the members of Vietnamese Medical community that we know, City International Hospital is generally considered the best Hospital In TP HCM at the present time. PVH was considered the best at the time I was treated there. I did recognize some of the PVH nurses and Doctors at CIH. CIH pays better than PVH

Sam

Dear Christopher,

I wish you will find best doctor in HCMC  soon, please do not go after FVH, If you say why? I apology not to say those here in public!

In a short decision you can rely on  "70 years old" opinions, because he seems to attached with several doctors because of his wife nowadays. I have read his previous post about his wife sickness and left his nice place (district) where he used to live.

By the way, you must go with those people who share their experiences to helping people who needed help not to help those who take advantages from sick/patients.

Nasir

Dear Half,

Your knee seem to be serious with condition of flammation, you should to visit doctor asap to drainage and check for further issue. Wherever you go to find doctor, as you will be under invasive procedure, you must be careful of Infection control , especially in sterilization in that hospital. Otherwise, it is easy to get infection for your knee, then become worse.
FVH is the one of the good facilities in sterilization. You can also check Saigon-Ito hospital for reference.
As foreigner, you should have insurance bcoz hospital will charge much for foreigner.

Cheer and wish you get better soon.

Thanh

My knowledge about PVH is several years old as I have changed hospitals twice since then.

Several years ago PHV was generally considered the best Hospital in TP HCM. Private Hospitals here, which PVH and CIH are, typically make a strong effort to become the "best" hospital when they open. Once that reputation is established and the hospital becomes popular, the cost cutting starts. Profits go up and quality goes down. CIH just celebrated it's 2nd year in business and is just starting to get popular.

I haven't been treated at Cho Ray in 20 years. But, mad-house that I understand it still is, and even patients who are VN Doctors experience the mad-house, according to VN Doctor friends. For Foreigners willing to pay a premium price, the care is excellent. The Doctor who treated me had been a Doctor on the Hospital Ship "Hope" during the War

Sam

Nasser:

Thanks for word of caution, I know 70 yr old from earlier time as a different handle in this site , but lost my codes book in travel.

Write me at my emil:seattleslew999@gmail.com to explain specifics relating to the PFV , caution you express. I NEED to get the pressure off. I have to fly back to states for Surgeon draining and interview / examination. This is a 2,000.00 expense. VERY costly. Also Legally required.

So please let me know , this thing will fill again any way , I just need to be steadier upon my feet. I also MUST get apartment in HCMC w/o run after run of steep short stairs. They are incredibly deadly.

Chris .

Dear Mr Half Centurion.

http://www.vietnammedicalpractice.com/e … ?item=2754
can you come to FAMILY MEDICAL PRACTICE and see Dr Claudio, may be it will help or Dr Phat in FV Hospital.

Regards

Huong Le

You go at FV hospital (District 7). My colleague had a knee injury and they handled it very well.

I have knee problems too having osteoarthritis and having had meniscus surgery previously in the US.  I saw Dr. Nguyen Trong Anh for follow up care and highly recommend him.  He has had extensive post graduate training in the US, is trained in arthroscopy and of course speaks English well.   His clinic office is in Binh Thanh District.    I don't really know but it sounds like he could do what you want in the clinic and let you avoid the madhouse that VN hospitals can be.  Here is his website:  http://www.bacsianh.com/en/

My only complaint it that he has two tiered pricing but he is still inexpensive by Western standards.

THIGV wrote:

I have knee problems too having osteoarthritis and having had meniscus surgery previously in the US.  I saw Dr. Nguyen Trong Anh for follow up care and highly recommend him.  He has had extensive post graduate training in the US, is trained in arthroscopy and of course speaks English well.   His clinic office is in Binh Thanh District.    I don't really know but it sounds like he could do what you want in the clinic and let you avoid the madhouse that VN hospitals can be.  Here is his website:  http://www.bacsianh.com/en/

My only complaint it that he has two tiered pricing but he is still inexpensive by Western standards.

Let's face it, us Westerners are more expensive to treat. Two tiered pricing is fair. You get what you pay for

That said, I'll agree that he looks impressive. Hospitalization, if needed should be no issue as I'm sure that, if he is as impressive as he looks, he is one of the "premium Doctors" that is on Trieu An Hospital lists for VIP patients to select at a premium price.

http://en.panpages.com.vn/listings/vn34 … n-hospitalhttps://www.facebook.com/pages/Trieu-An … 7325209820

The Doctor, that I think may be correct for you at CIH is Pham Chi Lang, MD. PhD.
Head Of Orthopaedic Department and the Veteran Cho Ray Doctor that CIH was able to steal from Cho Ray. Doctor Lang has treated both my wife and I.

Dr. Pham Chi Lang has more than 27 years of experience in teaching and working at Orthopaedics Department in major public hospitals such as Cho Ray, HCMC Orthopaedics, FV. Dr. Pham Chi Lang also attended training courses specialized in Orthopeadics in Bordeaux, France abd San Diego, California, USA.

http://cih.com.vn/en/medical-profession … tment.html

for more detailed information. Note, Dr Lang's medical English is excellent. Like most of us who struggle with multiple languages we concentrate on our professional portion of a language, his non professional English is not as good as his professional English.

Both our old family friend and chief informant on TP HCM medical issues daughter and I were patients at   Trieu An Hospital at the same time around five years ago. The friend's daughter was one of three in a bed level care and I was in a VIP private room with one nurse per three rooms 24/7,  for less money than PVH charged at that time, for a private, non-VIP room. We both recovered. I did have the Chief Kidney Instructor at one of the better Medical Schools do my surgery and my friend's daughter had hospital staff Doctors treatment.

I actually like Trieu An Hospital and would personally be happy to be treated in their hospital again. I do not normally recommend Trieu An Hospital to anyone with out access to someone with a really good knowledge of the Sai Gon medical scene and those people don't need my recommendation. My wife's condition is far too complicated for even the rather good Medical staff at Trieu An Hospital to handle and my wife needs to have top quality Medical Staff available in minutes 24/7. CIH fits the bill and our rented house is 730 meters from the CIH front gate

Sam

Talked to Dr. Pham Chi Lang earlier today and he is familiar with the procedure.

Hello.
Can anyone add to this?
I have been travelling to Philippines to have a gel injection in my knee mainly because of trust and never had a problem with the Cebu orthapedic Institute.
Has anyone had had similar gel injections here in HCMC?
Save a lot of travel if can find someone to do it locally

Are you talking about Hyaluronic acid also called Synvisc?

this is a page worth sticking on the header board!! Thanks for the info guys

The best hospital in HCM is FV Hospital.

they have also docters specialist for this problem.

Dear Half,

Hope you are better now. And hope you find all good info you want.
Let's go through the replies, there are only  4 good dr for ur references : dr Phat, dr Trong Anh, dr Claudio Duek, and dr Lang. Dr Claudio is Hand Surgeon. We are here just recommend dr who can satisfy your need. I had time to work and know all these guys, so they are all ok. Just remember, good dr is a point, but facility is also another important point for your patient safety. Wish you get better soon.

Thanh

I am required to go to the USA and see my Surgeon that did the Knee removal and artificial ( steel ) knee installation , per Medical Care under my claim, hence i am flying out under terrible costs to do this and return.
Talk about expense : You have no idea.  I will spend thousands. Okay ; aside from that i will still see a Local Clinic for the next go round after return.
Cannot fly round world just for Knee Drainage every month, NUTS !! ...... Life is complicated.

I like the sound of the Doctor's 70 year old refers to. His knowledge is very good ,and reasoning sound.
Life is a short train ride: Enjoy it, as much as able.

Best medicine.   

I am planning two knee replacements this summer, in Hawaii.  I hope I don't have similar complications.  Good luck to you.

Interesting.

Note, this is a Ha Noi hospital and should not be confused with a similarly named Hospital in Sai Gon

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/societ … ublic.html

"The main issue appears to be the failure of private hospitals to put patient care above profit. Several months ago, the musician Thanh Tung was taken to Vietnam-France Hospital in Hanoi, with a light fever. After examination, doctors admitted him for further tests.
A day later, the musician's son was told his father's health was deteriorating and he should prepare for his funeral, but the son was unhappy with the explanation of his father's condition, which he believed was meant to keep him in the hospital for more than a month.
The hospital was charging VND40m (USD1,900) a day.
He moved his father to the state Bach Mai Hospital nearby, over the opposition of the medical staff, where doctors examined the musician and declared his conditional was not serious, and he was discharged after a week."

Finally, musician Thanh Tung died in middle of March (http://news.zing.vn/Dam-tang-nhac-si-Th … 35934.html).

There is lot of vietnamese people can not understand that they will be charged like insured foreigner when they choose the healthcare services at international facilities. Just simple thing to compare the simple consultation between public hospitals and SOS clinic / FMP clinic / FV clinic / CIH hospital . Viet Phap Ha Noi clinic.... you will see the big different for the service.

It is normal like we prefer a high standard restaurant and common restaurant for food and drink.

Cheer,

In FV Hospital  local people are less charged then foreign people. Not for medicine but for the service.

The explination from the hospital is as follows:

Foreing people pay the real price. Local people get a discount!!!!!!!!!

thanhnx73 wrote:

Finally, musician Thanh Tung died in middle of March (http://news.zing.vn/Dam-tang-nhac-si-Th … 35934.html).

There is lot of vietnamese people can not understand that they will be charged like insured foreigner when they choose the healthcare services at international facilities. Just simple thing to compare the simple consultation between public hospitals and SOS clinic / FMP clinic / FV clinic / CIH hospital . Viet Phap Ha Noi clinic.... you will see the big different for the service.

It is normal like we prefer a high standard restaurant and common restaurant for food and drink.

Cheer,

Thank you for the update.

Thanks for this thread. I have a similar problem with my knee although yours sounds worse than mine... fluid, tears and ligament damage. I had an alarming clicking noise for years, I love my hard yoga and hiking and i always use the stairs. Old injuries of which there are many come back to tap us on the shoulder! Alas, they are things in the past at the moment. As a teacher working in 6 level schools with one small elevator to supply an entire school, stairs are 'all day everyday'. The clicking stopped but then the swelling and limping and painful nights, I can't seem to repair on my own so I'll follow all this great advice about where to go. I've used FV for other things over the past 5 years and I also found it good but too overpriced.

As far as FV goes, if you are using them for smaller checks and consultancies, I would say don't declare/use your insurance. I had travel insurance at the time (few years ago) and I explained to them I wont use it as the excess is so high. Still they insisted I MUST pay from the "insured foreigner" price structure (which was close to 40% more). This really %^&*%ed me off as I just paid cash anyway from my pocket.

That said, they were very professional, capable, etc.... just not about $. Ive used them for serious infection, blood analysis (each thing tested had a separate price, not grouped into categories, for blood work it was phenomenally $) but I'll try the CIH you great people discuss here. Thanks everyone

THIGV wrote:

I have knee problems too having osteoarthritis and having had meniscus surgery previously in the US.  I saw Dr. Nguyen Trong Anh for follow up care and highly recommend him.  He has had extensive post graduate training in the US, is trained in arthroscopy and of course speaks English well.   His clinic office is in Binh Thanh District.    I don't really know but it sounds like he could do what you want in the clinic and let you avoid the madhouse that VN hospitals can be.  Here is his website:  http://www.bacsianh.com/en/

My only complaint it that he has two tiered pricing but he is still inexpensive by Western standards.

yesterday, I followed the link and tried contacting Dr Anh by phone with number ending 4264 (as shown on that website). Also, called fv hospital and asked. They said he is not practicing there anymore.

also, I emailed using email address on the website. This morning I received this:

Delivery incomplete
There was a temporary problem while delivering your message to 09bacsianh@bacsianh.com. Gmail will retry for 45 more hours. You'll be notified if the delivery fails permanently.

If anyone has been able to contact him, please post details.

p.s. I've not yet tried the web form. will try that next and report back.

sanooku wrote:

yesterday, I followed the link and tried contacting Dr Anh by phone with number ending 4264 (as shown on that website). Also, called fv hospital and asked. They said he is not practicing there anymore.

I wrote my post nearly 5 years ago.  I suspect that he may have retired.

THIGV wrote:

sanooku wrote:

yesterday, I followed the link and tried contacting Dr Anh by phone with number ending 4264 (as shown on that website). Also, called fv hospital and asked. They said he is not practicing there anymore.

I wrote my post nearly 5 years ago...

And in all that time you didn't think to revisit the 3 threads where you shared that recommendation to make sure the information was still valid???

Well it's a darn good thing sanooku is willing to make up for your years of neglect...

Both the 'contact us' form and 'feedback - send information' form was a no go. Error comes up soon as you hit 'send'.

However, I've been able to contact him using another method. PM me if anyone wanna know how.

Spoke with him a little while ago. Seems very knowledgeable. He's off for TET until 22 Feb, so couldn't offer an appointment until then, but he did suggest a medication for my ailment to try first.

OceanBeach92107 wrote:

THIGV wrote:

sanooku wrote:

yesterday, I followed the link and tried contacting Dr Anh by phone with number ending 4264 (as shown on that website). Also, called fv hospital and asked. They said he is not practicing there anymore.

I wrote my post nearly 5 years ago...

And in all that time you didn't think to revisit the 3 threads where you shared that recommendation to make sure the information was still valid???

Well it's a darn good thing sanooku is willing to make up for your years of neglect...

Not sure whats up your bum Gordy as you seem to be very hostile of late.

As if anyone returns to update a post from 3 years ago.

colinoscapee wrote:

OceanBeach92107 wrote:

THIGV wrote:

I wrote my post nearly 5 years ago...

And in all that time you didn't think to revisit the 3 threads where you shared that recommendation to make sure the information was still valid???

Well it's a darn good thing sanooku is willing to make up for your years of neglect...

Not sure whats up your bum Gordy as you seem to be very hostile of late.

As if anyone returns to update a post from 3 years ago.

😆😆😆

This one really went way over your head, my friend.

Of course, that's a risk of sarcasm directed toward a third party.

Cheer up!

😊😊😊

OceanBeach92107 wrote:

Cheer up!

😊😊😊

The good news is that sanooku was able to make contact despite problems with his website.  He is a good doctor with basic Vietnamese medical school, but post graduate work in the US.

HI,

Dr Trong Anh already moved to Canada for living few years ago.
1. His young brother is also an Orthopedist named Dr. Xuan Anh (his FB facebook.com/profile.php?id=100044400970394) . You can contact to Dr Xuan Anh on his facebook for consultation either at his private clinic ( MY QUOC clinic) or Victoria clinic or Sai Gon Traumato & Ortho hospital
2. Or you can call back to FV to check consultation with Dr Phat (fvhospital.com/our-doctor/dr-le-trong-phat/)

Cheers

thanhnx73 wrote:

HI,

Dr Trong Anh already moved to Canada for living few years ago.
1. His young brother is also an Orthopedist named Dr. Xuan Anh (his FB facebook.com/profile.php?id=100044400970394) . You can contact to Dr Xuan Anh on his facebook for consultation either at his private clinic ( MY QUOC clinic) or Victoria clinic or Sai Gon Traumato & Ortho hospital
2. Or you can call back to FV to check consultation with Dr Phat (fvhospital.com/our-doctor/dr-le-trong-phat/)

Cheers

Re. 2. - the day before your post Dr. Nguyen Trong Anh recommended Dr Phat to me.

Actaully, i had already tried to book the tele-medicine service with him two weeks ago. He refused this and asked that I book a face to face consultation. So on 9 Feb booked an appointment with Dr Phat for 16 Feb. Not sure if this was due to TET or because appointments are hard to come by with him.

I think even when i booked the tele-medicine appointment all the available time slots were three-four days ahead.

Anyway, the reason for the appontmentt was to get a second opinion. I had had surgery on upper arm (left proximal humerus) after motorbike accident 4 weeks ago. I have started a blog on this. You can see it here. Its pretty basic right now, with how the accident happened and X-rays of my arm. 

Surgery was done at Vinmec by Dr Khoan. He did the Open Reduction Internal Fixation (ORIF) procedure with plate and screws (more on this later), After surgery, the X-Ray showed that a couple of the screws were at the edge of the humeral head. I read that there is a chance for the nails to portrude the head over time.  This has been confirmed by a UK based orthopedic surgoen with whom I had a zoom video chat consultation. He suggested that if this were to occur the only alternative is to go under the knife again and have those two screws removed. But not before two-three motnhs have gone by.

I asked Dr phat about the two screws and his response was Nonchalant. He said the screws need to be right at the edge becuase otherwise they could come off and I don't want that. This is really different to what I found an amercican based surgeon was saying. He was saying 'fractures will settle so take 4-6mm off the screws'.:

https://youtu.be/IIt7aUAJVf4?t=755


so depending on who you ask it seems you get a different answer on that one.

Vietnamese surgeons - Screws at edge is fine.
UK based - maybe it could be an issue.
USA - screw at edge is a no-no. i.e.Screws to reach nowehere near the edge of humeral head:

https://youtu.be/IIt7aUAJVf4?t=606

I presume the USA suergeons are basing their rationale on cases like these ones:


[b] some screws removed.



Actaully, to prevent the screw perforation there is a newer technique. Its called fibular strut:
https://aoj.amegroups.com/article/view/ … uberosity.

I asked Dr Phat about this when we met a couple of days ago. He said he had recently done some operations using this technique and that he is the only person (presumably in Vietnam) that can do it.

SO, if you're ever suggested ORIF surgery I reckon best to ask your surgeon if fibular strut is avaialble. Of course, they may not be comfortable doing it, in which case seek out a surgeon that does it. I think that technique seems superior because it elimates complications due to screw poliferation.

BTW, The service at FV was pretty good. My only complaint was that I had to fill in a form (using a pen) to register. It was particularly tough with my injured arm. She then inputted everything that was on the form to the computer. How about I fill in the form on computer before arving there. She prints it for me to sign and bob's your mothers brother.

Suffice to say, when picking orpthopedic doctor or specialist it makes sense to pick someone who has trained or worked abroad as they would likely to be familair with the latest techniques and procedures. i dont suppose that all or most of the scientic jorunal articles are transalated to Vietnamese, so they'd probably need to be fluent in a foreing language just to keep up with the latest breakthroughs.