Székesfehérvár

I like that town, half way between Balaton and Velence.
It's a smaller city , not sure how fast their bus service is compared to Budapest but I know they have one there.
In general though to me it seems like a city where one could actually use a car.
I actually wanted to move there before we settled in Budapest.
I am not sure at all if I have ever seen "black" people there at the mall or in the farmers market shopping areas or at local events.
Was there about one year ago last time for the day.
We used to hang there 5 days a week years back when we rented at the lake Velence. Short drive to the movie and mall there.
Sort of a very quiet place to live.
Best of luck,

Thanks for the info hun. I know that there aren't so much blacks there compare to Budapest. I just prefer Székesfehérvar because it's much calm and less crowded compare to Budapest. the location is very good, Less than an hour to Budapest, half an hour to Balaton, Velence and the life balance is reasonable. I am not a fan of a big and crowded city, I previously lived in London, Manchester, Budapest. I prefer to live in a quiet place and get my peace lol I won't really need their bus service, I plan to buy a car when I move to the City in order to commute easily. My partner already found a job, I hope to get an English speaking job in Székesfehérvar or I might have to be commuting to Budapest for work on a daily basis if I can't find English speaking job in Székesfehérvar.  I hope to find a community of expats in Székesfehérvar or possibly create one. If anyone fancy networking or hanging out. Kindly pm me. Would be great to socialise and have some new friends. Any nationality is welcome.

My experience is that expat that go outside Budapest tend to be more selectively social. So don't expect a large expat community social response outside of Budapest.

Thanks for the hint 🙌🏿

There might be seasonal tourist type work around the lake(s).

fluffy2560 wrote:

There might be seasonal tourist type work around the lake(s).

Thanks Fluffy. But I am only looking for a long-term permanent job to build my career.  Not keen on per time or seasonal jobs.  My partner already found a full time job. I have 2 job offer from Budapest, Ibut I am not too keen on it. I will probably have to consider the Budapest Job as a last resort.  I have a preference to work in Székesfehérvar. I will be in Hungary in August and I plan to spend the full August like an Holiday touring Balaton and Velence area. hopefully I can get an English speaking job in Székesfehérvar Before the end of September or October.

Paulomos1 wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

There might be seasonal tourist type work around the lake(s).

Thanks Fluffy. But I am only looking for a long-term permanent job to build my career.  Not keen on per time or seasonal jobs.  My partner already found a full time job. I have 2 job offer from Budapest, Ibut I am not too keen on it. I will probably have to consider the Budapest Job as a last resort.  I have a preference to work in Székesfehérvar. I will be in Hungary in August and I plan to spend the full August like an Holiday touring Balaton and Velence area. hopefully I can get an English speaking job in Székesfehérvar Before the end of September or October.

Good luck with the search for a job.   It's not very easy without the language.  If you speak another language like German (particularly) or say French or Spanish or something more obscure like Norwegian as well there's always a chance at a call centre or something like that.   Depends what your skills and desires are.  If you have some specialism like cardiac

BTW, the tourist season is quite short.  By the end of August, it'll be dead as a dodo. 

I'm in Balaton at the moment, 20km from Siofok.  The lake is cold too - only 21 C. It's getting cold already at night (it's odd weather this year). It was only 15 C last night and we had to have a wood fire (outside).   It's much cooler this week than it should be.  I believe it will be 30 C at the weekend.

Paulomos1 wrote:

I will be in Hungary in August and I plan to spend the full August like an Holiday touring Balaton and Velence area. hopefully I can get an English speaking job in Székesfehérvar Before the end of September or October.

Full time, English speaking jobs, other than teaching English or at English speaking schools (Pápa is better for such jobs due to the military base), outside Budapest are almost non-existent. And Székesfehérvar is not really that large a city.

But does not hurt to search for one. Good luck.

Side note: I am sorry to have to say this, but the more you go outside Budapest, and away from International firms, the more your ethnicity may affect your ability to find work. It may not be "right" but it might be local reality.....

klsallee wrote:

.............But does not hurt to search for one. Good luck.

Side note: I am sorry to have to say this, but the more you go outside Budapest, and away from International firms, the more your ethnicity may affect your ability to find work. It may not be "right" but it might be local reality.....

I hate to say it but that's likely to be true.   

Nature of the current Trump/Orban/Putin/Salvini society at the moment.   

I'm beginning to think such thinking will take a generation or two to disappear. 

If it takes that long, God help us all.

Orbán Viktor is more or less a dictator. He is learning from Trump/Puttin/Salvini. I will try to stay out of the Hungarian politics and ignore people with negative vibes 😂

Do British Passport holders need to apply for residence permit in order to live in Hungary for more than 90 days? If yes, Can I apply for a permanent residence card or it's always 5 years residence application first before getting permanent residence subsequently?

fluffy2560 wrote:

Paulomos1 wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

There might be seasonal tourist type work around the lake(s).

Thanks Fluffy. But I am only looking for a long-term permanent job to build my career.  Not keen on per time or seasonal jobs.  My partner already found a full time job. I have 2 job offer from Budapest, Ibut I am not too keen on it. I will probably have to consider the Budapest Job as a last resort.  I have a preference to work in Székesfehérvar. I will be in Hungary in August and I plan to spend the full August like an Holiday touring Balaton and Velence area. hopefully I can get an English speaking job in Székesfehérvar Before the end of September or October.

Good luck with the search for a job.   It's not very easy without the language.  If you speak another language like German (particularly) or say French or Spanish or something more obscure like Norwegian as well there's always a chance at a call centre or something like that.   Depends what your skills and desires are.  If you have some specialism like cardiac

BTW, the tourist season is quite short.  By the end of August, it'll be dead as a dodo. 

I'm in Balaton at the moment, 20km from Siofok.  The lake is cold too - only 21 C. It's getting cold already at night (it's odd weather this year). It was only 15 C last night and we had to have a wood fire (outside).   It's much cooler this week than it should be.  I believe it will be 30 C at the weekend.

I hope it would be very warm when I arrived in August. It's quite odd that the weather isn't very hot and sunny in July. Probably got to do with global warming or so. I hope you will enjoy your time in Balaton area. Thanks for the tips. I Speak English and my Hungarian level is intermediate by the way. Hopefully I can find sth🤞🏿

klsallee wrote:

Paulomos1 wrote:

I will be in Hungary in August and I plan to spend the full August like an Holiday touring Balaton and Velence area. hopefully I can get an English speaking job in Székesfehérvar Before the end of September or October.

Full time, English speaking jobs, other than teaching English or at English speaking schools (Pápa is better for such jobs due to the military base), outside Budapest are almost non-existent. And Székesfehérvar is not really that large a city.

But does not hurt to search for one. Good luck.

Side note: I am sorry to have to say this, but the more you go outside Budapest, and away from International firms, the more your ethnicity may affect your ability to find work. It may not be "right" but it might be local reality.....

Thanks for that info, I will definitely take that into consideration. I think you are right 👉🏿, so far I have been getting job offers and interview only from Budapest, I applied a lot of jobs in Székesfehérvar. But none of them ready to offer me anything. Funny enough, I also tried to rent a flat in Székesfehérvar and some landlord asking me how dark is my skin? They said if my skin is very dark. They can't give me a house to rent. Seriously these shit still exist in 2019? Bunch of clowns lol 😂 I lived and studied in Budapest, Hungary at IBS over 10 years ago . I Know that some off the Hungárians can be funny. But I was expecting some changes by now after over a decade development. But it seems like fidesz Isn't helping matter's. I love Hungary despite some of the social vices plaguing the nation. My wife is Hungárian and I feel myself like an Hungárian. I love most Things about the country. I know financially we could continue to earn more in UK than in Hungary. But moving closer and spending time with family members is more important to us. Additionally, the Lifestyle and culture in Hungary suit both of our personality compare to UK. Hopefully thing's will work out as planned.

Paulomos1 wrote:

klsallee wrote:

Paulomos1 wrote:

I will be in Hungary in August and I plan to spend the full August like an Holiday touring Balaton and Velence area. hopefully I can get an English speaking job in Székesfehérvar Before the end of September or October.

Full time, English speaking jobs, other than teaching English or at English speaking schools (Pápa is better for such jobs due to the military base), outside Budapest are almost non-existent. And Székesfehérvar is not really that large a city.

But does not hurt to search for one. Good luck.

Side note: I am sorry to have to say this, but the more you go outside Budapest, and away from International firms, the more your ethnicity may affect your ability to find work. It may not be "right" but it might be local reality.....

Thanks for that info, I will definitely take that into consideration. I think you are right 👉🏿, so far I have been getting job offers and interview only from Budapest, I applied a lot of jobs in Székesfehérvar. But none of them ready to offer me anything. Funny enough, I also tried to rent a flat in Székesfehérvar and some landlord asking me how dark is my skin? They said if my skin is very dark. They can't give me a house to rent. Seriously these shit still exist in 2019? Bunch of clowns lol 😂 I lived and studied in Budapest, Hungary at IBS over 10 years ago . I Know that some off the Hungárians can be funny. But I was expecting some changes by now after over a decade development. But it seems like fidesz Isn't helping matter's. I love Hungary despite some of the social vices plaguing the nation. My wife is Hungárian and I feel myself like an Hungárian. I love most Things about the country. I know financially we could continue to earn more in UK than in Hungary. But moving closer and spending time with family members is more important to us. Additionally, the Lifestyle and culture in Hungary suit both of our personality compare to UK. Hopefully thing's will work out as planned.

Yup, it's worse now.  With Fidesz in charge, it's as though they've given people permission to throw away their ethics and self-control.  It's not very good at all.   

Unfortunately people in the countryside's politics can be bought off with 200kg of wood for their fire or even 2K HUF off their electricity bill.  Many people in HU - except in the major towns/cities - are not very worldly, certainly not internationalised and the government controls all the media.  In the cities, it's a different world.

The government spoon feeds them drivel about imaginary enemies intent on overthrowing their way of life.  So of it is downright and overtly racist and ignorant beyond any "civilised" country nationals understanding.   This applies to anyone somehow different - people of colour, speaking another language and that long standing enemy, the Jews.

There is a hope people returning to the country from abroad might bring different thinking.  Maybe it takes a generation or two to repair the damage.

Sorry, that was almost a rant.  The trolls will come back on that soon enough.

Paulomos1 wrote:

Do British Passport holders need to apply for residence permit in order to live in Hungary for more than 90 days? If yes, Can I apply for a permanent residence card or it's always 5 years residence application first before getting permanent residence subsequently?

If you stay longer than 90 days, you need to go and register. 

Just go to the local registration office (take your other half with you). I think they fill in the forms for you.  It MUST be the local registration office where your address is - you cannot go to a different one to skip the queues (I waited 3h until they open a special British/Brexit queue) but my local one (for Pest) is one of the largest.   

You need your passport and some photos and the fee (it might be 1000 HUF - you can pay by card but I am not sure if you can pay with cash).  If you are renting a property or own one, take the contract with you to prove your  address.  You have to also take your marriage certificate with you - best to take the missus.

There and then you'll get a card showing your EEA entitlement to stay - think it's for 5 years - and  you'll get an address card with your apartment/house on it.   After 5 years you can get permanent residence.

Be aware that immigration people speak English in Budapest - but no idea in the countryside.

You've got to get in under the wire for the Brexit date otherwise you'll be treated as a 3rd country national with more hoops to jump through.

fluffy2560 wrote:

Unfortunately people in the countryside's politics can be bought off with 200kg of wood for their fire

I would rather say that the really poor are rather blackmailed for wood, as the local governments decide who gets such support, and if you don't "act right", no soup for you... oops I mean no wood.

Paulomos1 wrote:

I was expecting some changes by now after over a decade development.

Suggest you read "Relations" by Zsigmond Móricz. Surprising little has actually changed, fundamentally. Published in 1935, so no, Communism was not the cause....   How much you are aware of that or are affected by that will be determined by the size of your expat bubble.

klsallee wrote:

and if you don't "act right", [link under review]... oops I mean no wood.

Looks like my link to "no soup for you" bit from Sienfield is also now "under review". Good grief. 

fluffy2560 wrote:

Paulomos1 wrote:

Do British Passport holders need to apply for residence permit in order to live in Hungary for more than 90 days? If yes, Can I apply for a permanent residence card or it's always 5 years residence application first before getting permanent residence subsequently?

If you stay longer than 90 days, you need to go and register. 

Just go to the local registration office (take your other half with you). I think they fill in the forms for you.  It MUST be the local registration office where your address is - you cannot go to a different one to skip the queues (I waited 3h until they open a special British/Brexit queue) but my local one (for Pest) is one of the largest.   

You need your passport and some photos and the fee (it might be 1000 HUF - you can pay by card but I am not sure if you can pay with cash).  If you are renting a property or own one, take the contract with you to prove your  address.  You have to also take your marriage certificate with you - best to take the missus.

There and then you'll get a card showing your EEA entitlement to stay - think it's for 5 years - and  you'll get an address card with your apartment/house on it.   After 5 years you can get permanent residence.

Be aware that immigration people speak English in Budapest - but no idea in the countryside.

You've got to get in under the wire for the Brexit date otherwise you'll be treated as a 3rd country national with more hoops to jump through.

Thanks for that vital info. I will need to act fast and apply for the residence documents application first thing when I Arrived in Hungary in August. I will apply with Veszprém office coz my partner have a family house and holiday house in the veszprém megye. Better to have a permanent address using her family house. Though I will rent a house in Székesfehérvar. But don't want hassle with landlords in asking them to provide contract and stuff like that. I know that a lot of them don't pay tax and most of them aren't keen to provide documents for immigration purpose.  Do we need to submit a bank statement too as an EU citizen or it's only applicable to 3rd country national?  Is the residence card approved on the same day I make the application or I have to wait for a maximum of 3 months like it takes for the 3rd  country national? Thanks for taking time to reply. I appreciate 🙌🏿

Paulomos1 wrote:

[ my partner have a family house and holiday house in the veszprém megye.

Just make sure that the holiday house has "year round living rights". Some wine hill and country houses do not have this permission. Most houses in villages do, however.

Also, if you declare that as your residence, technically, you are suppose to actually live there.... Else you may be committing fraud if you are not there for a certain length of time and you do not re-declare your current living space..... And any documents from the government will come there and some you have to be there to sign for (else it gets complicated)....  Just saying....

klsallee wrote:

Paulomos1 wrote:

[ my partner have a family house and holiday house in the veszprém megye.

Just make sure that the holiday house has "year round living rights". Some wine hill and country houses do not have this permission. Most houses in villages do, however.

Also, if you declare that as your residence, technically, you are suppose to actually live there.... Else you may be committing fraud if you are not there for a certain length of time and you do not re-declare your current living space..... And any documents from the government will come there and some you have to be there to sign for (else it gets complicated)....  Just saying....

Yeah, the Holiday house have it. But we will be using the family house in Veszprém megye rather than the holiday house. My clothes and stuff are there and we often go to the place. My partner dad and mum live in the house and they can always contact us when we have documents or letters. I will use the house as permanent address and later on use the as I rent as a temporary address.

Sounds like you have a HU partner so things should fall into place a bit easier for you when you move.
Was under the impression that you just picked a city out of the blue and were moving to HU alone.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Sounds like you have a HU partner so things should fall into place a bit easier for you when you move.
Was under the impression that you just picked a city out of the blue and were moving to HU alone.

Yeah, My partner is Hungárian, we have been together for 9 years. I used to live and study @ IBS, Budapest,Hungary 11 years ago before moving back to UK, I have often been going to Hungary atleast 3x a year in the last decade when I was living in the UK. I have an idea about what life is all about in Hungary. But we can always learn and get information from other people experience. looking forward to moving to Hungary in August 🤞🏿

Paulomos1 wrote:

My partner dad and mum live in the house and they can always contact us when we have documents or letters. I will use the house as permanent address and later on use the as I rent as a temporary address.

Okay.

But if hard Brexit, then you may become a third party national, and you will still need to inform the local authorities where you "actually" live, regardless of your "official" address.

Rushing to get residency may, or may not, matter. If a hard Brexit, the Hungarian government can still call you a third party national. So your status may be.... in flux.

Also, Veszprém megye just means Veszprém County. Actual residence address is not a county issue. But a city, town, village issue. There is a Veszprém government office for registration of foreign residences, I use it, but that is just the location of this office, which is different.

When is this Britex ever going to happen?
Seems they are so slow in pulling out, just like in Belize and other places, just hate to give up the ghost or something.
I even believe they still own the US.
Yes if it ever goes down then you would be a 3rd party player and face a new set of rules.
All EU privileges would be stripped.
Not a horrible thing really just a bit of paperwork.

klsallee wrote:

Paulomos1 wrote:

My partner dad and mum live in the house and they can always contact us when we have documents or letters. I will use the house as permanent address and later on use the as I rent as a temporary address.

Okay.

But if hard Brexit, then you may become a third party national, and you will still need to inform the local authorities where you "actually" live, regardless of your "official" address.

Rushing to get residency may, or may not, matter. If a hard Brexit, the Hungarian government can still call you a third party national. So your status may be.... in flux.

Also, Veszprém megye just means Veszprém County. Actual residence address is not a county issue. But a city, town, village issue. There is a Veszprém government office for registration of foreign residences, I use it, that is different.

Yeah, you are definitely right 👉🏿. Though I don't expect a hard brexit.  Unfortunately we can't really predict what a BOJO Government is going to look like. Hopefully there will be a compromise between UK and EU. I can't imagine the prospect of  British citizens being regarded as a third party national in Hungary lol 😂

Paulomos1 wrote:

I can't imagine the prospect of  British citizens being regarded as a third party national in Hungary lol 😂

Third party is anyone from outside the EU or EEC. And with a hard Brexit, that may qualify as default rules will come into effect. And Hungary, as an EU member can not make special unilateral agreements or rules with other countries outside the EU....

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

When is this Britex ever going to happen?
Seems they are so slow in pulling out, just like in Belize and other places, just hate to give up the ghost or something.
I even believe they still own the US.
Yes if it ever goes down then you would be a 3rd party player and face a new set of rules.
All EU privileges would be stripped.
Not a horrible thing really just a bit of paperwork.

The United Kingdom (UK) initially intended to leave the European Union (EU) on 29 March 2019. However, The United Kingdom's departure from the European Union ('Brexit') has been postponed until 31 October 2019, at midnight!

Paulomos1 wrote:

.....But don't want hassle with landlords in asking them to provide contract and stuff like that. I know that a lot of them don't pay tax and most of them aren't keen to provide documents for immigration purpose.  Do we need to submit a bank statement too as an EU citizen or it's only applicable to 3rd country national?  Is the residence card approved on the same day I make the application or I have to wait for a maximum of 3 months like it takes for the 3rd  country national? Thanks for taking time to reply. I appreciate 🙌🏿

No, you don't need a bank statement.  I didn't. 

BTW, if you have the old brown residence booklet (like me) from before EU accession, you'll give the immigration people quite a laugh.  My registration officer thought it hilarious and said I should keep it as a souvenir.  I never thought of it as an icebreaker! But then again he was a surprisingly nice guy and clearly a higher level official due to his command of English.

I also met a few other British people in the "Brexit" queue.  You should try and find out if there's a special time for Brexit registrations.  In Pest, there's a special queue for it so you can skip the hordes.

So, anyways, you're exercising your EU treaty rights and should be treated on an equal basis to the locals. You should get polite and efficient treatment.

Also, you should get the cards there and then at the registration office. And then you're "clean" and permitted. 

I should say that if your name is not on the house contract, then they might not like that, i.e. you do not have permission to stay there.  So either your FIL or MIL agrees on paper perhaps or you take your other half and marriage certificate (EU country certificates are valid in HU) with you and then, she can perhaps just say you live there. In my own case, my better half and I own our house so we have both names on the purchase contract.

Incidentally, the President Elect of the European Commission has hinted at a further Brexit delay so despite PM "Elect" BoJo's statements, it could could drag on further.   You can register at the moment anytime until the last minute.  I am sure people will!

Paulomos1 wrote:

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

When is this Britex ever going to happen?
Seems they are so slow in pulling out, just like in Belize and other places, just hate to give up the ghost or something.
I even believe they still own the US.
Yes if it ever goes down then you would be a 3rd party player and face a new set of rules.
All EU privileges would be stripped.
Not a horrible thing really just a bit of paperwork.

The United Kingdom (UK) initially intended to leave the European Union (EU) on 29 March 2019. However, The United Kingdom's departure from the European Union ('Brexit') has been postponed until 31 October 2019, at midnight!

Marilyn is wryly commenting on the absurdity of the process. Everyone knows the dates... missed... etc....

fluffy2560 wrote:

So, anyways, you're exercising your EU treaty rights and should be treated on an equal basis to the locals. You should get polite and efficient treatment.

Correct.

But due to the xenophobic nature of Brexit, and what Boris may do (cough -- "send them home"), then EU countries may reply in kind.... So... Nothing is certain. Rushing now may not matter. Or it may. Only time will tell.

fluffy2560 wrote:

Paulomos1 wrote:

.....But don't want hassle with landlords in asking them to provide contract and stuff like that. I know that a lot of them don't pay tax and most of them aren't keen to provide documents for immigration purpose.  Do we need to submit a bank statement too as an EU citizen or it's only applicable to 3rd country national?  Is the residence card approved on the same day I make the application or I have to wait for a maximum of 3 months like it takes for the 3rd  country national? Thanks for taking time to reply. I appreciate 🙌🏿

No, you don't need a bank statement.  I didn't. 

BTW, if you have the old brown residence booklet (like me) from before EU accession, you'll give the immigration people quite a laugh.  My registration officer thought it hilarious and said I should keep it as a souvenir.  I never thought of it as an icebreaker! But then again he was a surprisingly nice guy and clearly a higher level official due to his command of English.

I also met a few other British people in the "Brexit" queue.  You should try and find out if there's a special time for Brexit registrations.  In Pest, there's a special queue for it so you can skip the hordes.

So, anyways, you're exercising your EU treaty rights and should be treated on an equal basis to the locals. You should get polite and efficient treatment.

Also, you should get the cards there and then at the registration office. And then you're "clean" and permitted. 

I should say that if your name is not on the house contract, then they might not like that, i.e. you do not have permission to stay there.  So either your FIL or MIL agrees on paper perhaps or you take your other half and marriage certificate (EU country certificates are valid in HU) with you and then, she can perhaps just say you live there. In my own case, my better half and I own our house so we have both names on the purchase contract.

Incidentally, the President Elect of the European Commission has hinted at a further Brexit delay so despite PM "Elect" BoJo's statements, it could could drag on further.   You can register at the moment anytime until the last minute.  I am sure people will!

Thanks for that fantastic information. I will start gathering the document they required in a file and probably pay them a visit before the end of August to sort my residence permit.

klsallee wrote:

Paulomos1 wrote:

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

When is this Britex ever going to happen?
Seems they are so slow in pulling out, just like in Belize and other places, just hate to give up the ghost or something.
I even believe they still own the US.
Yes if it ever goes down then you would be a 3rd party player and face a new set of rules.
All EU privileges would be stripped.
Not a horrible thing really just a bit of paperwork.

The United Kingdom (UK) initially intended to leave the European Union (EU) on 29 March 2019. However, The United Kingdom's departure from the European Union ('Brexit') has been postponed until 31 October 2019, at midnight!

Marilyn is wryly commenting on the absurdity of the process. Everyone knows the dates... missed... etc....

Alright, fair enough. Unfortunately the govt doesn't care about the people. Brexit is turning into a mess, I don't really see the point of having Brexit. Things have already started looking bleak and tough here in the UK. Pounds Currency drastically falling on a daily basis, a lot of firm and workers leaving UK, cost of things are rising. A once Great Britain, now turning into a laughing stock. The Govt/Parliament haven't got a clue of exactly what they want to achieve from brexit. I wish it could be reverse and UK continue as an EU member start. But it's highly unlikely. Probably they will go with Australian or Switzerland deal with EU. Hopefully there will be a resolution in the nearest future.

Paulomos1 wrote:

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Yeah, you are definitely right 👉🏿. Though I don't expect a hard brexit.  Unfortunately we can't really predict what a BOJO Government is going to look like. Hopefully there will be a compromise between UK and EU. I can't imagine the prospect of  British citizens being regarded as a third party national in Hungary lol 😂

It's right old mess.  I've got dual national kids.   There was a point where we thought I could actually get kicked out, families separated, deportations and so on.   That's a kick in the teeth for EU nationals who are the product of exactly the integration that the EU was set up to foster.

We went to the British Embassy Town Hall meetings - perhaps 100 people there - and it was clear they didn't have a clue on either side.  The HU government representative was hopeless at outlining a policy of any sense.  Amiable guy but policy wise as useful as a steak at a vegetarian banquet. He always pushed it back to the EU as making the decision.  Obfuscation in action.

That wasn't the same as say the Polish and Czechs who said they would make their own arrangements on a reciprocal basis - e.g. Poles and Czechs in the UK would be protected.  In the meantime, Brussels (and UK) were and are still organising a promising a p*** up in a brewery while no-one is making the beer.

Paulomos1 wrote:

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Thanks for that fantastic information. I will start gathering the document they required in a file and probably pay them a visit before the end of August to sort my residence permit.

Oh, btw, you might need a translation of your marriage certificate.   So that's something that could be done whenever you visit or your other half could get organised before you arrive. It's quite useful here and there.

There used to be only one place to get that stuff translated - OFFI - but those rules have been relaxed.

However, no-one has reported here  acceptability of non-OFFI translated documents - at least none I can remember.

Paulomos1 wrote:

Switzerland deal with EU

Hum..... Are you aware of the 2014 Swiss immigration initiative?

Another mess.

fluffy2560 wrote:

Oh, btw, you might need a translation of your marriage certificate.

He keeps saying "Partner".... so was wondering if married, but did not want to presume. If married, then the family reunification is the way to go if future issues are a problem....

fluffy2560 wrote:

Paulomos1 wrote:

....
Thanks for that fantastic information. I will start gathering the document they required in a file and probably pay them a visit before the end of August to sort my residence permit.

Oh, btw, you might need a translation of your marriage certificate.   So that's something that could be done whenever you visit or your other half could get organised before you arrive. It's quite useful here and there.

There used to be only one place to get that stuff translated - OFFI - but those rules have been relaxed.

However, no-one has reported here  acceptability of non-OFFI translated documents - at least none I can remember.

The marriage was held in Óváros tér, Veszprém, Hungary back then. The certificate is written in Hungárian and English language.