Pensionado Visa - worth it?

The hell with that..Come and go every six months...No problem unless you plan to settle here and go for the jubilado disounts.

That price seems awfully high. Ask our lawyer for a second opinion. kraemerlaw.com/en/ (we were extremely happy with his work and paid closer to half your price).

Yes, IMO, it is worth it, at least it was for us. I love this country and like being a legal resident, the credibility, etc. I love not watching the calendar for border runs, and being able to buy a round trip ticket from here. We haven't taken advantage of many discounts because we don't eat out, buy medicine, etc but I did get a very nice discount on the last Copa airline tickets I bought. My next trip though, Copa prices were high even with the discount so I'm flying with another airline. So, YMMV on that one.

The biggest hassle for many people is getting the background check, the FBI fingerprints, etc. I had to wait until my social security kicked in to qualify for residency, and by that time I had been here two years and could get a background check done here in Panama. It was SO easy. So, if you aren't sure what you want to do, live here for a couple years, make sure it's a good fit, take some nice weekend trips to explore Costa Rica or somewhere else for your border runs, and apply for residency later.

would you tell me the name of the attorney you used for your visa?

                               thanks

                  pete peterman

would you please share the name of your attorney?

who are you asking? Scroll up to find my last post with the info for our attorney

junkrunner wrote:

would you please share the name of your attorney?

My advice?  Take your time!!  Make sure Panama is where you really want to be for the rest of your life before making such a large investment!

My story?  I moved to panama with the thought of making it a permanent move.  The first six months, I was in heaven.  I loved Panama and everything about it.  At the twelve month mark, doubt started to creep in...  It's HARD and don't let anyone tell you differently.  I never buckled down and learned Spanish, and, again, don't let anyone tell you you don't need it.  You do!  Family obligations came up.  Long story short, I was back in the USA within a year and a half.  I AM so glad I didn't apply for a visa during my honeymoon period because it would have been wasted money.  Take your time, be sure.

Not saying I don't agree, I do. However some of us, the honeymoon phase didn't hit until year 4 or so.

That being said, yeah many things are not at all what I expected but I cannot even think about living in the US again.

So honeymoon is over, but geez, doesn't that happened with marriages too? You either decide that you are in it for the long haul or not.

We are here and really can't think of anywhere else I would want to live. So bottom line? Just take the word "why" out of your vocabulary and you will do just fine here 

lisa 98----if you would, please provide info on the relocation specialist and/or contact info on American Society in guadalajara.     Wow such help is hard to find.

my attorney is mayra de ruzzi tel: xxx
e-mail xxx
panamalawyermayralamboglia.com

you will find her very through and honest

This is the Panama forum. I think your post ended up in the wrong place.

prepete1 wrote:

lisa 98----if you would, please provide info on the relocation specialist and/or contact info on American Society in guadalajara.     Wow such help is hard to find.

Kraemer law is way high priced

Use kraemer law if you have to much money

I've heard prices way higher than theirs.
kraemerlaw.com/en/fee-schedule

junkrunner wrote:

Use kraemer law if you have to much money

Can you provide me with the Lawyers name you used?

Thank you for the information

Very good lawyer, not overpriced IMO. I've seen prices way higher. He is meticulous and will get it done right. http://kraemerlaw.com/en/fee-schedule

your attorney is very high priced

I am retired and I will be visiting Panama in a month, February. I'm hoping Panama resonates with me and I will want to relocate. There is an International living Fast Tack Panama Lifestyle and Opportunity conference
going on when I'm there the cost is $1195.00 for a three day conference.
My question is do you think it's worth it.....I thank you for any comments and suggestions

Carneal wrote:

There is an International living Fast Tack Panama Lifestyle and Opportunity conference
going on when I'm there the cost is $1195.00 for a three day conference. My question is do you think it's worth it.

It's not worth $50, unless you like smoke being blown up your $%#& by a bunch of people trying to sell and mislead you.

Thank you for your response I appreciate your reply.

Carneal wrote:

Thank you for your response I appreciate your reply.

Buying property is easy.  Only you spending time living in Panama many months will tell you what is most important and what you need to know:  Is Panama suitable for you?  Stated differently, are you a fit for Panama?

Thanks again my first trip next month will be for 15 days. Hopefully I will get a good  feel for Panama

Would you be so kind as to give my this information please? I certainly would be appreciative.

Thank you

Would you please create some posts about your experience next month?   I haven't been in Panama since 2000.  I don't retire until 2020, but I'm in the planning stages of where I want to retire (Panama or Costa Rica).   I like the sound of Panama's pensianado program.

That must be an old picture cos you don't look old enough to be retiring anytime soon 😀

I was thinking the same thing, and she would fit perfectly in Panama, land of beautiful women who retain their beauty into their later years.

Want to hear Carneals thoughts after his visit

Thanks for the compliments.  It's from 2016.  I'm lucky enough, depending on how you look at it, to be able to fully retire at 50.   It's been a long, stressful career, but I'm almost finished!  3 years 2 months and 2 days.  I'm sort of counting lol!

Yes I will keep you posted

Yes I will do just that. Looking forward to my visit

attorney mayra de ruzzi. very good job and much less expensive.

mayra de ruzzi   xxx

Yes, it pays for itself!  Here 8 years and it paid for itself the first year.

You were kind enough to mention the good and reasonable service you got for the lawyer, but you do give and details, will you please let me know who she is.  We, my wife and I will be in Panama on 11 Oct for a look see visit, I would very much like to make contact with here.....please.   Johan Koen

Good lawyer, many people happy with him https://kraemerlaw.com/en/home/

Hi Kristc99,
Just wanted to say you always have the best responses like the one below...  When you tell people to try the country out first before making a permanent commitment... that's something we all can truly trust and you have everyone's well-being at heart... just wanted to say thanks from everyone...
Kindly...

kristc99 wrote:

That price seems awfully high. Ask our lawyer for a second opinion. kraemerlaw.com/en/ (we were extremely happy with his work and paid closer to half your price).

The biggest hassle for many people is getting the background check, the FBI fingerprints, etc. I had to wait until my social security kicked in to qualify for residency, and by that time I had been here two years and could get a background check done here in Panama. It was SO easy. So, if you aren't sure what you want to do, live here for a couple years, make sure it's a good fit, take some nice weekend trips to explore Costa Rica or somewhere else for your border runs, and apply for residency later.

Thank you so much:)  I'm glad if I can be helpful!