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Steverino7777

Hello ,  I currently spemd my winters in La Romana but there are few expats here. After working on the Spanish language for 5 winters, i am realizing i will always have difficulties communicating. I will be exploring Puerto Plata for a week in March as I look for a new community with a little more English in it.

Can anyone recommend an affordable hotel not too far from the beach that would allow me easy access to the malecon and the city?

Is there an active expat group there who meet regularly for social and exercise opportunities? A y info. or guidance would be appreciated.

Steve

Ian1272

Hi Steverino.

We want to retire to Las Terrenas sometime this year. From what we understand theres lots lots of English speaking expats there.  Do you think Puerto Plato will be any different, if not worse than La Romona will be for English being spoken ?

What programs have you been using to aid yourself in learning Spanish ?

You say you will be going to Puerto Plata, when you are out that way, stop in at Sosua. There is a gated community there called Casa Linda. My wife and I were all set to purchase a Villa there till I was told they would not allow us to put up solar panels on any Villa we would purchase in there.  Not being able to put up a solar panel system was a deal breaker for us.

That caused us to look at other areas of the DR. We were happy to discover Las Terrenas.

Back to Casa Linda.  There is a very large number of English speaking residents at Casa Linda. From our research they have a nice social environment there too, nice amenities, might be something for you to check out.

Hope you find what you are looking for :)

All the best :)

Steverino7777

Hi Ian,

Actually there is a larger French population in Las Terrenas  and it is a beautiful area indeed. However, when the Canadian gov't evacuated all Canadians left stranded in the D.R. in May 2020, they sent 2 empty Westjets to Puerto Plata because that is where the largest concentration of Canadians are. I drove the 5 hours to get there that day. As for studying Spanish , i live in Victoria B.C. for 6 months every summer and do not speak the language there. Further, I have lost my passion to master the language but I am able to communicate by reading, speaking, and writing but my problem is in listening and understanding . I have taken the pressure of myself and will cruise thru the remaining years I may be in this country.  I will also check out Casa Linda. Thanks for the tip my friend....!

planner

Yes the north coast has a large English speaking expat population.  From Cofresi, Costambar, Puerto Plata, Sosua, Cabarete and Cabrera you will find English speaking Canadians, Americans, Brits etc.

In each  you will find various places they get together!  Many snowbirds as well, like yourself

Tippj

Yes there is a small hotel 10-15 min walk from the beach called
KMA they charge around $50 a night or $900 a month.I used to stay before I bought my home.
Otherwise there are more along the Blvd across from the beach but I’m sure they’ll be a little more $$ and this is in puerto plata where I live
Part time. I don’t speak the language, but then again I really engage in conversation with the locals but I get by in the supermarkets and restaurants  , and buying gasoline and gas

Karin1

How come these English speaking people are not here in Punta Cana?

Karin1

Hi Steverino

I understand exactly what you mean.  While I want to learn the language and understand everyone, if its not your passion or priority, its only then a chore.  Who needs chores at this stage in life (if you can avoid some).  I am also deaf in one ear so that makes it harder. I find this very stressful, the pressure of it all.  I am good at math and science, not languages so conversational Spanish is not likely going to happen for me neither.   

Karin (fellow Canadian from Toronto area)

Guest2022
A reminder that to live outside gated communities poses a greater risk for expats and in this case, a long term Canadian resident who was living near the waterfront in Puerto Plata and was murdered in an apparent robbery on Friday.


They find the lifeless body of a Canadian at his residence

The lifeless body with signs of violence of a Canadian citizen was found on Friday afternoon inside his apartment, located in the Arsenio Hurtado Urbanization of this city.

The victim was identified as 69-year-old Raynald Payant, whose body shows multiple stab wounds.

The authorities investigate, for the moment the theory is handled that the motive may be to rob him.

The lifeless body was sent to the Inacif of the city of Santiago to determine the real cause of death
RockyM
So, I am just thinking out loud here but a lot of local thugs believe there is a giant safe or stack of cash in every ex-pat residence. These people don't want "stuff" they can't unload, they want cash. That's what they are looking for. I didn't read that story but I doubt this thug got much if any money.  So, he killed a human being for very little.
My other comment is that many people simply do not think about their own personal security. I implore everyone to think about your own safety wherever you are, no matter how secure the conditions appear to be. I don't consider Las Terrenas to be unsafe; however, I have my eyes open all the time. Same thing when we lived in the States. Plenty of violence there.
RockyM

Hi Steverino

I understand exactly what you mean.  While I want to learn the language and understand everyone, if its not your passion or priority, its only then a chore.  Who needs chores at this stage in life (if you can avoid some).  I am also deaf in one ear so that makes it harder. I find this very stressful, the pressure of it all.  I am good at math and science, not languages so conversational Spanish is not likely going to happen for me neither.   

Karin (fellow Canadian from Toronto area)

- @Karin1
Yep, we are having a tough time absorbing the local language. Just harder than we anticipated. As you say it is a "chore" that I don't need. So, I commiserate with you. I am just shooting for "transactional Spanish" (i.e. ordering a meal and other formal functions). The funny thing is I always vowed never to live somewhere without knowing the native language. Hmm.

JoshGV143
@RockyM where I live in S. Florida the gun violence has become untenable. Multiple random shootings every week. This past week a group of people were shot at in their car, the week before a woman and her son were shot at while driving down the same road my son’s school is on. There was the viral video of this nut with road rage in the same region I live in:


It’s gotten nutso, especially in the States.
I’d rather take my chances in the D.R.



Tippj

@Ian1272 hi I looked at houses there and one home had solar panels for their pool heater and filter…. 🤔😉

Tripp789
@Tippj

We too looked at Casa Linda. At one point you were allowed to install your own solar panels, but we have since heard that CL management have installed their own and are restricting them to keep their cash flow.

CL has developed a reputation for this.  All utilities have to come through them including cable /internet and electricity, to which they  add a hefty margin.

The other complaint we hear most often is of rowdy parties at the many rental villas located there. Too bad as it is a very nice development.
RockyM
I wandered off-topic somewhat but the whole issue of whether to live in a "gated" community, however that is defined, or in the open, is a separate discussion. Denise and I get asked this question a lot. There are pros and cons to each.
Ian1272
Hi Tippj.

We took a long serious look at Casa Linda as it checked off many of the boxes that were important to us. As we dug deeper we realized it wasn’t for us. We realized it wasn’t for us soon after we discovered the Town of Las Terrenas. 

From what I understand, there is a couple homes in Casa Linda that utilize Solar energy, they were there before Casa Linda built there own Solar farm.

The more we found out about Las Terrenas we knew this town life was for us. We can’t wait to get there :)

Thanks to everyone who has shared their experiences of both Las Terrenas and Dominican Republic :)

Rocky and Denise, would love to read all of your guys thoughts on, “ Gated Community or Not “
Tippj

@Ian1272 hi after looking at CL I bought an older home in puerto plata that has two rentals attached to the main house that needs a little bit of work , it not-in a gated community but I feel safe when I’m in town and it a very very quiet street…., like every thing else I think one has to be careful of who you talk to and what information you share…just like everywhere else.. I don’t hang out in bars and clubs where people could follow you home, I do go out to the restaurants but I’m home at a decent hour ….. I think it all depends on the individual taste on where and how someone wants to buy

Karin1
@JoshGV143

Wow, I spent time in Sarastota and area (SW Florida) in 2016 when I first retired. But I was not there more than 4 months a year and I decided to sell because the condo (HOA) fees were very high.   Thats when I found out that my neighbour was killed by a stray bullet that entered his house  (this was a year before I moved there).  This is a gated community but our homes were at the very edge beside the not so nice neighborhood.   Guns are a big problem in USA.  You cant be afraid of everyone and everything but we must always be careful.  Nobody has your best interest in mind, compared to you. 
JoshGV143

@Karin1 I guess my point, and you reinforced it, is that it’s easier to be cautious, aware, and responsible for yourself when you have an inkling of the dangers around you. There’s nothing you can do to protect yourself from a random bullet coming through your wall or car window… it seems to be a more common problem in the US and unfortunately especially in Florida

Ian1272
Tippj, we share the same sentiments towards safety. My wife and I do not hang out in bars or clubs, we are both really home bodies.

When I researched Casa Linda, I liked that they have upwards of 48 security guards 24/7 continually patrolling the grounds. One of the drawbacks for us was after realizing Sosua takes on a different appearance/personality when the sun goes down, I could foresee my wife and I would most likely not be going into Sosua very often, if at all for dinner in the evening.

We have two Great Danes, that are very protective and we are hopeful they will make the trek down to the Dominican once we put down roots and find a permanent home for ourselves.

Las Terannas seemed to be very different in this regard. I can foresee my wife and I going out for dinner in town one or twice a week and feel safe, still on guard but safe and willing to venture out in the evening for a nice dinner.

I picture we will purchase a home in a gated community up in the hills of Las Terrenas with a beautiful full view of the ocean :)

I can’t wait to discover Las Terrenas with my wife, and all it has to offer the two of us.

Ian
Guest2022
So, I am just thinking out loud here but a lot of local thugs believe there is a giant safe or stack of cash in every ex-pat residence. These people don't want "stuff" they can't unload, they want cash. That's what they are looking for. I didn't read that story but I doubt this thug got much if any money.  So, he killed a human being for very little.
My other comment is that many people simply do not think about their own personal security. I implore everyone to think about your own safety wherever you are, no matter how secure the conditions appear to be. I don't consider Las Terrenas to be unsafe; however, I have my eyes open all the time. Same thing when we lived in the States. Plenty of violence there.
- @RockyM

It appears it was a woman with whom he was familiar who stabbed him to death....


The weakest link in ones security plan is often you in person by facilitating access to your residence voluntarily or through lurking delinquents on returning home.
Tippj

@lennoxnev like I’ve said in the past , choose carefully who you talk to and what information you put out …. This could’ve happened in any places so I don’t think you can blame it on the general population….

Guest2022
It is no coincidence this has happened yet again in the Puerto Plata area. Yes it can happen anywhere and did so in La Vega recently. But if one looks back over the years the incidence of foreigners both male and female being killed by aquaintences in the Puerto Plata area far exceeds such incidences elsewhere including resort areas such as Samana, Punta Cana and South Coast. There were also murders and deaths in Sosua this weekend but not foreigners thankfully.

It comes with the turf and whilst you may be as street wise as the deceased gentleman, you as an expat will always a target in that higher risk zone just like those of us in lesser risk areas of the country.

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