Why is covid cases increasing in Thailand.

Never done that wrote:

But again, It is NOT news that we can get sick or give it to others after we get the Vaccine.
We have know that nearly since the start.
The Vaccine we get it to help our body fight it, IF we get it.
Again, There is really nothing new in this.

That is not the point. It was news because they didn't expect that. They believed that once you got vaccinated you were immune to getting it again. That is the way vaccines are supposed to work. That is how the polio, chickenpox, mumps vaccines all work. Once you get it and recover or get vaccinated, you are not supposed to get it again. The fact that these people were fully vaccinated for covid-19 and still got it again shook their confidence in the vaccine and showed them that these vaccines were not working like they are supposed to. That's why they say, "A sobering scientific analysis". Sobering because it brought them down off their pro-vaccine high they were on before.

You clearly don't understand how vaccines are supposed to work. They are not to make your body better at fighting the disease, that is what medicine is for. Vaccines are supposed to create the antibodies within your body to prevent future infection. Like the polio vaccine does. And which the covid-19 'vaccines' do not!

There are many people that swear by ivermectin all around the world. Now, because it is not approved by the FDA  for covid 19 as with all the vaccines, you don't think it works. Over 288 scientists in Europe disagree with you and many doctors in India and South America. So what makes you so dam smart? This is a forum for learning and not for name-calling so keep your I'm better than you attitude at home.

JayEsCee wrote:

Never done that wrote:

But again, It is NOT news that we can get sick or give it to others after we get the Vaccine.
We have know that nearly since the start.
The Vaccine we get it to help our body fight it, IF we get it.
Again, There is really nothing new in this.

That is not the point. It was news because they didn't expect that. They believed that once you got vaccinated you were immune to getting it again. That is the way vaccines are supposed to work. That is how the polio, chickenpox, mumps vaccines all work. Once you get it and recover or get vaccinated, you are not supposed to get it again. The fact that these people were fully vaccinated for covid-19 and still got it again shook their confidence in the vaccine and showed them that these vaccines were not working like they are supposed to. That's why they say, "A sobering scientific analysis". Sobering because it brought them down off their pro-vaccine high they were on before.

You clearly don't understand how vaccines are supposed to work. They are not to make your body better at fighting the disease, that is what medicine is for. Vaccines are supposed to create the antibodies within your body to prevent future infection. Like the polio vaccine does. And which the covid-19 'vaccines' do not!

I prefer to call it the Jab. It is not a vaccine and this is acknowledged on their websites!

Bagwain wrote:

JayEsCee wrote:

And which the covid-19 'vaccines' do not!

I prefer to call it the Jab. It is not a vaccine and this is acknowledged on their websites!

That's why I put the word 'vaccine' in quotes. Because it's a vaccine by name only and doesn't do what a vaccine is supposed to do. Calling it a jab is fine. It's more of a comical jab and joke played on us all. Unfortunately, it may be harming some of us.

JayEsCee wrote:

Never done that wrote:

But again, It is NOT news that we can get sick or give it to others after we get the Vaccine.
We have know that nearly since the start.
The Vaccine we get it to help our body fight it, IF we get it.
Again, There is really nothing new in this.

That is not the point. It was news because they didn't expect that. They believed that once you got vaccinated you were immune to getting it again. That is the way vaccines are supposed to work. That is how the polio, chickenpox, mumps vaccines all work. Once you get it and recover or get vaccinated, you are not supposed to get it again. The fact that these people were fully vaccinated for covid-19 and still got it again shook their confidence in the vaccine and showed them that these vaccines were not working like they are supposed to. That's why they say, "A sobering scientific analysis". Sobering because it brought them down off their pro-vaccine high they were on before.

You clearly don't understand how vaccines are supposed to work. They are not to make your body better at fighting the disease, that is what medicine is for. Vaccines are supposed to create the antibodies within your body to prevent future infection. Like the polio vaccine does. And which the covid-19 'vaccines' do not!

Like I say, Not news, We know about this.
This have all ready be in the News in Europa short time after the first people have gotten 2 injection.


Not all Vaccine work that way you write.

Covid 19 vaccine help you to fight it and get over it faster if/when you get sick.
immune to it, ofcause not.
That what family and friend back in Denmark have being told before getting the Vaccine.
This is all so what we here in Thailand have being told.


Take the flu vaccine, you dont take that it to not get the flu, you take it so when you get the flu, you body fight is better and faster, And you dont get as sick as normal.
The flu vaccine change every year to match the newer version of the flu.

The way covid 19 change, I can easy see this coming to covid 19 vaccine all so, That we get a newer better version of it every year.

There is all so a reason why people coming into Thailand even with a full vaccine still have to do quarantine, Because it is know that the vaccine dont get people to be immune.
And Thailand have to test people, To check if people have it or not.

If you and other believe you be immune, That your own fault, No one else.

Kindly.

Never done that wrote:

The Vaccine we get it to help our body fight it, IF we get it.

Not all Vaccine work that way you write.

Covid 19 vaccine help you to fight it and get over it faster if/when you get sick.
immune to it, ofcause not.

If you and other believe you be immune, That your own fault, No one else.

Again, you are missing the point. You don't understand what the definition of a vaccine is. It is NOT to make you better, or help your immune system get better. It is to make you immune. Here is the definition of a vaccine.

"vac·cine
/vakˈsēn/
noun
plural noun: vaccines
a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

"there is no vaccine against the virus""

So, to say "Not all Vaccine work that way you write.", is just wrong. That is what the definition of a vaccine is. If it doesn't make you immune, then it's not actually a vaccine, but a treatment. However, these substances called 'vaccines' are not actually vaccines like they are meant to be. They are not making you immune to Covid-19 like they are designed to do. Whether they are helping is debatable, so they might be called by some 'treatments', but they are not vaccines at this point.

Also, people are not meant to be tested on like guinea pigs or lab rats. By the time these substances are used on people they are supposed to be already tested on animals and made perfect. The practice of using people as lab rats or test subjects while the 'vaccine' is being perfected is wrong from a medical and moral standpoint.

(sigh) I used like to come on here now and then and chat it up a bit but people have gotten carried away

I've seen so much misinformation and opinion passed off as fact.
And seen some insightful factual comments.

I hope this post doesn't start a war

That's one of the problems. That these people are passing off their political opinions as facts. That's why I'm trying to post things from scientific and medical websites to separate the facts from the opinions.

Another is that some here don't speak English as their native language like that Danish guy, so he doesn't understand the actual meaning of the words in English. They are confusing words like 'vaccine' with 'medicine' or 'treatments'. They don't understand that a vaccine is supposed to make you immune. If it doesn't, then it isn't really a vaccine, but a treatment. So, they are thinking treatments and not vaccines when the write about vaccines.

umm, yeah like I said sometimes just need to let things go.

If you can do that, then you are a better man than me.

This shows that the American made Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccines have had false ratings put on them by their manufactures, which is not unusual from American made Pharmaceutical products, since the arrival of the Delta strain these two companies have been working on a booster shot that they hope to be available in October or November. It has been published by other manufactures that like the yearly flu shots the same will occur for the  SARS-CoV-2.

This shows that the American made Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccines have had false ratings put on them by their manufactures, which is not unusual from American made Pharmaceutical products, since the arrival of the Delta strain these two companies have been working on a booster shot that they hope to be available in October or November. It has been published by other manufactures that like the yearly flu shots the same will occur for the  SARS-CoV-2.

"Who should be blamed for this increasing rise in all covid strains?"
The short version: The Thai governments non-existant vaccine purchases and the very slow vaccination rate.

6% of Thailand vaccinated, massive government fail😩👎🏻

On top of the low number of 6%, many of those have gotten the Sinovac-vaccine which is pretty much useless against the Delta-variant.

Leeds forever! wrote:

"Who should be blamed for this increasing rise in all covid strains?"
The short version: The Thai governments non-existant vaccine purchases and the very slow vaccination rate.

You realy have no idea what is going on! They have increase testing with the (not fit for purpose PCR test that is set at 40 cycles when it should be around 25) so of course you are getting higher numbers with 90% + false positives. Purely designed to keep up the fear & rhetoric to suit the larger evil & sinister agenda!

Turn yout TV off! 

There isn't a reason to get vaccinated with the Sinovac or the AstraZeneca because they don't protect against the delta variant, which is the variant currently spreading in Thailand. So, who cares if the vaccination rate is so low and that only 6% of the Thai population is vaccinated with those vaccines. The ones vaccinated are not protected from reinfection from the delta variant either. In-matter-of-fact, they are finding that many vaccinated with the better vaccines, Moderna and Pfizer, are also getting infected with the delta variant. About 7% of those infected now are fully vaccinated with the Modena or Pfizer vaccines.

That's why you get the vaccines perfected first before you distribute them to the masses. They are not doing that. They are testing and modifying them as they vaccinate us. Those who were vaccinated early, might need to get more vaccine shots later as they keep trying to make them more effective.

WHAT A COMPLETE MESS THIS IS TURNING INTO!

That's why you get the vaccines perfected first before you distribute them to the masses. They are not doing that. They are testing and modifying them as they vaccinate us. Those who were vaccinated early, might need to get more vaccine shots later as they keep trying to make them more effective.

Pfizer might have different reasons for getting the vaccine to the people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zoSSHx9QtA&t=317s