Remote Work

Hi and welcome to the Forum.

Perhaps I misunderstand your question, but why would you need a Dutch work permit if you don't live there, and work remotely in another country?

I don't think you can.  If your not a resident in the Netherlands, you won't be registered, so won't be able to pay your taxes.  The thing that they will catch you for is lack of medical insurance and it will start to unravel from there.

If your question is you want to come and live in Holland to work, how do I do it?  Then the Dutch Government have a department called the IND who has a website that lists every single possible work permit; this link will take you straight there.  If that doesn't answer your question, then that same link has at the top of the page, a further link to the IND contact details, my advice is to phone them and ask them - they speak English.

Hope this helps.

Cynic
Expat Team

Thank you. My company is cool with me living in my current country for a  couple of months so that I can save some money before I completely move to Netherlands.

I was thinking about doing something like this and wonder if it makes sense or doable;
I will get my MVV and Single Permit, then open a Dutch bank account (I will be present in the Netherlands whilst all of these are happening) but then I will come back to my country and work from here since it is very cheap and then completely move back to the Netherlands. Can I handle taxes and health insurance online? Or If I have to go to the Netherlands to do those, I can do that too.

Sorry, but I just don't see the point of you doing this.  This is not going to save you any money, in fact, the opposite.  Just stay where you are until you have done what you are planning to do, then move to the Netherlands.

Once you get your MVV (which is a temporary residence and work permit for the Netherlands), you have 90 days to move to the Netherlands, once there, you have 5 days to make an appointment to register with the Gemeente; from that point on, you are liable for all Dutch taxes and insurance payments.

Dutch taxes and Insurance deductions are deducted from payroll by your employer; you make an annual tax declaration and any reconciliation is sorted at that point.

Thanks for the insight but imagine this, 200euros per month is enough for me to live in my country and I can save the rest of my salary before I emigrate to the Netherlands. I dont have much savings yet. This is why I was thinking of working remote for some time.

If the issue is not being able to afford having your household goods shipped until you've worked a while, it might be helpful to know that your shipper will need your proof of settlement paperwork for customs declaration and clearance, unless you want to pay duty on your belongings upon import. So, in most cases, people "move" with a few suitcases and the bulk of their stuff comes along after.

Get them packed and leave them in the care of someone you trust. Once you're registered with the gemeente and you've been to the IND and received the residency permit, you can get copies of those to a removals agent arrange to have your stuff shipped. You'd have to look it up on the belastingdienst website but I believe you can do that up to 6 months from the time you resettle and you can ask for an extension if you need longer.

I think the point Cynic is trying to make is that part of the registration process is having a residence in the NL; you have to show you have a rental contract or mortgage so you'd end up paying to "live" in both the NL and your home country which could hardly be a savings.

I'm really not sure how you could manage the process legally without following all the steps. The Dutch IND is nothing if not keenly observant of immigrants so probably best not to take a chance with anything that would give them leave to say you're trying to bend the rules as they have no compunction whatsoever about tossing people out and banning them re-entry for years.

Veli Furkan TURKOGLU wrote:

Thanks for the insight but imagine this, 200euros per month is enough for me to live in my country and I can save the rest of my salary before I emigrate to the Netherlands. I dont have much savings yet. This is why I was thinking of working remote for some time.

What I don't understand is where you think you will make the savings.  Where you are assessed for taxes is decided by where you are resident for the greater part of the tax year.  Your forum information tells me that you are currently resident in Turkey.  If you gain an MVV, move to Holland, register there, then move back to Turkey to work remotely, you are still resident in Turkey and will pay I suspect exactly the same amount in taxes as you are now; the only significant difference is you have now just paid out for a return trip to the Netherlands and accommodation/cost of living for the time it takes to find somewhere to live, register etc - none of which is deductable and which you will have to pay for again when you do it the next time.

One last comment - the Dutch Government have published the process for your employer to follow, it can be found at this link.

Thanks for the insights so far. I really do appreciate it. Here is the scenario where I think I will be able to making savings. I pay zero rent in Turkey, and everything that I spend here takes approximately 300 euros(utility, grocery etc.) so If I get 1700 euros, I will only spend 300 of it. 1400 euro, deduct the taxes, insurance, trip to Netherlands etc. How much would I be left with? 800? 900? then I put that money on the side, and then I can have around 2600 euros when I decide to move to the Netherlands. Not much, but still some savings. Otherwise, I'd have to go to the Netherlands with almost to no cash.

I dont have many stuff to move to be honest. I am just afraid that the amount of money that I will have wont suffice for most of the extras that may occur.

Veli Furkan TURKOGLU wrote:

Thanks for the insights so far. I really do appreciate it. Here is the scenario where I think I will be able to making savings. I pay zero rent in Turkey, and everything that I spend here takes approximately 300 euros(utility, grocery etc.) so If I get 1700 euros, I will only spend 300 of it. 1400 euro, deduct the taxes, insurance, trip to Netherlands etc. How much would I be left with? 800? 900? then I put that money on the side, and then I can have around 2600 euros when I decide to move to the Netherlands. Not much, but still some savings. Otherwise, I'd have to go to the Netherlands with almost to no cash.

But why go to the Netherlands in the 1st place; you save nothing (in fact your expenses have just gone up to pay for your trip), you will pay the same tax to the same people in the same country that you would have had you just stayed put.  Just because you have registered in the Netherlands, does not mean you are liable to pay taxes in the Netherlands, that won't happen till day 183; until then you will continue to pay in Turkey.

So, is it possible to work remote for a company in Netherlands from Turkey? I think it is not since I have to bend certain rules which I dont want to.

Veli Furkan TURKOGLU wrote:

So, is it possible to work remote for a company in Netherlands from Turkey? I think it is not since I have to bend certain rules which I dont want to.

Post No 9 above gives you a link to the Dutch Government process that explains the different possibilities.