Tourist Visa 180 info

no, it does not work that way.
When Policia Federales stamps you in at the border, you get ninety days.  If you apply for an extension at any time during that ninety days, then the clock resets at the day the application is approved and you get ninety days from then.  When the Federales Policia stamp you out, then that visa is ended.  You can come back in as soon as the next day, and then when you get stamped in, you get a new clock with ninety days.

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05/21/21

KellyMarie,

As an American citizen, you are allowed to stay in Brazil for 180 in each 365 days.   The days will be counted backwards from your next arrival on a rolling 12 month basis.  So, if you arrive anytime in August 2021, any days that you were in Brazil from August 2020 on until the date of your arrival will be deducted from 180, and you'll be authorized to stay however many days over there are.  This should happen automatically in the Federal Police system at Immigration Control as soon as your passport is swiped, and the agent should tell you how much time you have.

In planning for 2022, you can count back by month from any potential arrival date, to estimate how many days you've "gotten back".  Just remember that at the start of each month,  the last month in your rolling twelve drops off, and you get back any days in that month.

Does this apply to waiver visas as well?

Texanbrazil wrote:

Does this apply to waiver visas as well?

Yes.  The limits are based on nationality and reason for visit, not how the visa was issued.  Here's the complete list:

https://diplopedia.itamaraty.gov.br/upl … 140120.pdf

(edited to provide updated version)

Thank you Abthree for taking the time to clarify this for me!! Brightened my day to know when I can return.

Thanks, ab
The Evisa provides a QR code and it has information. Have not dealt with such

Texanbrazil wrote:

Thanks, ab
The Evisa provides a QR code and it has information. Have not dealt with such

05/21/21

Me, either.  You and I have the advantage, though, of being experienced day-counters, from our VITEM II days. 

Are you sure this rule even applies anymore?  If you are American, you no longer need a visa to visit Brazil. How can you overstay a visa if one is not required?
  It used to be that you couldn't pass 90 days without leaving the country and reentering. Then you could stay another 90 days before leaving for 180 days. The bottom line was that in a 12 month period Ex. Feb 1-Jan 31 or July 15-July 14th... you could not stay over 180 days.  Tourism is a non-immigrant action.  The 180 day max was to prevent people from sliding into an immigration action.  As a tourist you are bringing money into the country and as an illegal immigrant you would be part of the Brazilian economy (without paying taxes).  To answer your question, I would wait until December to return to avoid getting refused entry.  Another consideration is the airfare in August will be higher then in December. Good Luck!

Ken

Ken,
Residents from those four countries (US, CA, AU, JP) with a valid passport will be permitted to stay in Brazil for 90 days from their date of first entry per day, with the possibility of extending their stay without exceeding 180 days. You will receive a stamp upon entering which starts the clock.
Basically saves you the time and money of getting a normal or evisa.
Also, keep in mind this can be ceased at any time by the authorities. If in Brazil and the cancel waivers, they probably honor remain days without an extension.
Any violation of the rules and laws of BR will mean deportation and being banned for a certain amount of time.

05/22/21

Yes it applies, and the existence of an actual "visa" is practically irrelevant to the process.  A visa is only permission from a Foreign Ministry for a person to appear before an immigration officer and request admission.   In Brazil, that means a handoff of control from the Foreign Ministry to the Justice Ministry at the port of entry.  Bolsonaro has waived Foreign Ministry involvement for additional countries (it used to be based strictly on reciprocity), but if anything, the Justice Ministry has tightened up.  It used to be possible to game the system, especially at the land borders,  but better electronic systems have made that much harder.  Brazil is addressing a growing visa overstay problem through stricter enforcement.  At least, that was the tendency pre-pandemic, and probably will be again once the immediate crisis passes.

Ah yes, the Vitem II days. When you began the application and being told, no you need this and that, and given a protocol extending the days. Miss that day without going back to PF meant "let's start again"! Can remember days began with that little slip of paper given upon entry (which many just tossed) and the journey began!

Yeah, after an overnight flight, the wind could rip that flimsy sheet of paper out of your hand, and it wouldn't even make it out of the airport. 

Whatever the downside of computer tracking, I'm glad that it did away with those.

Agree. Many would come to PF saying lost the paper. The counter would say take a seat again. They did not like to hold up lines and search.

Actually the extended visa is valid until you are inside that country.
In either case you need to apply for a multiple reentry visa to visit that country in certain amount of time, typically 6 months or one year.

Tourist visa: The combined stays must not exceed 180 days per any one-year period if PF extends the 90 days.
I sure would want to track multi entries and sometimes the system has incorrect information.
Would rather obtain a 5-year visa.

Hi, I’m in the same situation..and I’m still confused. I went to Brazil in December 2020..got an extension I think in February/March (can’t remember exact date). I just remember the FP told me I have until July 7th. I left Brazil May 8th and the federal police told me I could leave Brazil and come back as long as I did it before July 7...I’m going back to Brazil in two weeks to stay the remainder of my extension and apply for residency...however there’s so much mixed info out there I’m scared they will turn me away!! My kids have dual citizenship and will be with me so hopefully that will help!?....

06/08/21

GringaGirl

Since you have Brazilian children and are planning on applying for residency anyway, consider going to the Brazilian Consulate General and requesting a VITEM XI visa for family reunion.  You qualify because of your family connections, and it's good for a year, so you can stop worrying about counting days.  You'll be expected to report to the Federal Police within 90 days to request your permanent residency, but you'd have to do that anyway.

To figure out how many days you have left as a tourist, count back a year from the date that you plan to next arrive in Brazil.  If you were in Brazil less than 180 days during that one year period, you're good to go; if not, you may have a problem.

hi Abthree, yes so I was in Brazil a total of 153 days, so I technically have 27 days left in Brazil. So, I would assume the 12 months would start from the day I leave Brazil after the 27 days. So..August of 2022 I could go back. And yes, at this point I'm thinking of just applying at the Brazilian Consulate. The consulate in Boston said it could take up to a month to process my request where in Brazil the FP said it could be six months....better off just getting it done at the consulate from what I see...
Thank you for your help!

06/08/21

Unfortunately, with a VITEM XI you'll still have to go through the Federal Police process.  You'll be able to use the same documents (make sure to have a duplicate set, and apostilles for the Federal Police), and you won't have the time limit hanging over you.

What do I have to do at the federal police? Do you mind clarifying? The consulate says my husband needs to have a notarized letter that he will sponsor me in Brazil, of course with other documents as well but it didn't state anything on there about the federal police. Is there another step?

06/08/21

Yes, you'll still have to go to the Federal Police within 90 days of your arrival to apply for authorization of permanent residency and your CRNM:

https://www.gov.br/pf/pt-br/assuntos/im … o-familiar

oh ok, so Im assuming I would have to get some sort of approval from the Brazilian consulate here first, then arrive in Brazil and get authorization from the federal police, if that's what your saying?

Gringa,
Not necessary as to Consulate approval, but very helpful. The MJ (PF) is the only agency to approve PR in Brasil. Since 2017 the immigration processes are handled by the PF. Whereas before the Consulates issued all visas.
By getting all you can be done in the US by using the Consulate's information helps a great deal.
The FBI report is the only "time-sensitive" requirement.

hi Texanbrazil, good to know. I've been dealing with this issue since august of last year and it seems there's always a road block some where along the line. So, just so I understand, I CAN submit documents to the consulate while I'm here in the United States, they said it can take-up to month to process. After being "processed" I'll have to go to Brazil to the federal police and they will give me the "official approval".

Also, in regards to the FBI report, I'm only doing all this here in the U.S because the State House is taking 20 weeks here to process and apostille federal documents.!!..which at that point my FBI report will be expired, the Brazilian consulates website said I do not need to apostille anything. So, fingers crossed at this point. Who knew this would be such a headache....

06/09/21

GringaGirl,

I got my FBI Background Check through an Approved Channeler.  I used Accurate Biometrics; if they don't have an operation in Boston, a Channeler there should offer the same services.  They provided both a hard copy (with duplicate originals, if requested at time of order) and an electronic copy.  Turnaround is 1-2 days, fingerprints are taken electronically.

I sent the electronic copy to National Apostille  (https://www.nationalapostille.com) for a US State Department apostille, required for Federal documents.   They sent back an apostilled hard copy in less than a week.  With such fast turnaround, it will probably be possible to time your requests so that the documents are still accepted when you get to Brazil.  The Federal Police have some leeway:  weeks past 90 days may be ok, months could be a problem.

You won't need apostilles or translations for English language documents at the Consulate;  you will at the Federal Police.  Apostilles for Massachusetts documents probably come from the Massachusetts Secretary of State.   You can get Sworn Translations quickly when you're in Brazil.

GringaGirl,
Welcome to Brazil. There are many "roadblocks", but once the process is started in Brazil the PF will review your documents and issue you "protocols" which allows you to stay for an additional amount of time to complete the process. (Do not lose these little pieces of paper)
Follow abthree's advice and use an FBI-approved channeler for the last piece of the process.
At least PF does not require a home visit which in my case took 4 months (un-announced).
Even with Cartório, it is another process. Make them your friend and all will go well.
We are here to help, so do not feel overwhelmed.

Oh wow!! I didn’t know there was a faster option for apostilling documents. Well that will solve A LOT of waiting time. Thank you both for your help! Good to know!

GringaGirl101 wrote:

Oh wow!! I didn’t know there was a faster option for apostilling documents. Well that will solve A LOT of waiting time. Thank you both for your help! Good to know!

I definitely found it worth the money for the Federal apostille that's required on the FBI Background Check.

Whether it's worth the cost for your state apostilles depends on your situation.  I was living just outside Chicago when I was pulling my documents together, and the Illinois Secretary of State has an office downtown, so it was easy for me to get apostilles on documents like our marriage certificate myself.  If you're looking at a lot of time or effort, it might be worthwhile for at least some of your state apostilles, too.

Yes, Ive had documents easily apostille before but apparently Massachusetts won’t apostille federal documents, so they won’t do the FBI background check. So I’m going to try the link you’ve sent me. Thank you!

06/09/21

GringaGirl101 wrote:

Yes, Ive had documents easily apostille before but apparently Massachusetts won’t apostille federal documents, so they won’t do the FBI background check. So I’m going to try the link you’ve sent me. Thank you!

That is correct:  states won't apostille federal documents, and the Federal Government won't apostille state documents.  States won't apostille each other's documents, either, so that service can also help if you need apostilles on documents from states other than Mass.