Me and my Husband are planning to have our next baby in Brazil

Hello, my name is Janet am from Nigeria. Me and my Husband are planning to have our next baby in Brazil (as I am 24 weeks gone) with the hope of permanently relocating to the country.

Ola and welcome Janet.
What type of visa(s) are you planning on entering Brazil? Is husband a Brazil citizen?
Tourist visa only good for 90 days therefore not much help for you.
Be prepared for many questions as to being with child.

Wish you and husband and your new baby all the best ~ cheers 🎉

My husband is not a Brazilian. I intend entering with a tourist Visa. Although am attending a conference in Rio April this year fully paid for by my state government in Nigeria.

Thank you.

Well that is a difficult situation.
The Policia Federal are watchful as to "anchor babies".
I am not the best as to attending a conference while nearing delivery to give advice.
When applying for a visa be sure to be upfront. Additionally the PF will ask many questions and want company documents and doctors latest exams and clearance from s/he.
The paid by company will not help. You are on a tourist visa and treated as such and could be denied entry.
Maybe others can help

If you’re the only person coming then might be not harder but imagine coming here with government colleagues how will you go about it ? And also how about your husband situation is he also coming to the conference? I suggest you guys can make it alone . It will be advisable to withdraw the government conference and apply for your own visa and come besides you gotta to read a lot and make a lot arrangements as in fund and etc. cheers

Will it be alright if I declare that I am pregnant in my VISA application?

Yes my husband is coming with me.

Janetmichaels :

Will it be alright if I declare that I am pregnant in my VISA application?

I think that's will be a little problem! 
haven't you secure your visa yet? 
if you're planing to get it then find someone who might be willing to help you. 
am not sure if getting Brazilian visa is difficult in your country or not.  And besides aren't you attending the government program?

Hello everyone and welcome to Expat.Com, Janet  :)

I have created a new thread from your posts on the Brazil forum so that you may better interact with members. Hopefully, you will get some useful information.

All the best,
Bhavna

When applying for a visa at a Brazilian Embassy or Consulate, you will be required to present proof of identification and other documents such as evidence that you are able to financially support yourself, that you have made appropriate arrangements for lodging, health insurance in case of emergencies, have not been convicted of certain crimes, and so forth. Depending on the purpose of your trip to Brazil and the visa you will apply for, specific documents will be required.

Yes you must be "upfront" as to birthing in Brazil. This will save you being denied upon entering BR by the PF.

"Yes you must be "upfront" as to birthing in Brazil. This will save you being denied upon entering BR by the PF."

The PF might investigate later upon filing for migration paperworks if the original purpose you stated upon visa application is consistent. Inconsistencies could be interpreted as fraud and could lead to deportation, even imprisonment and also possible denial of the baby´s citizenship. Staying 90 days is not consistent with your conference itinerary.

Be honest and respect the laws of migration and you might well be treated the same.
Purpose of visit: To give birth. Isn´t that beautiful and honest?

robal

ali9999 :

with all due respect that is completely false. The jus soli birth right is awarded to all born in Brazil, this cannot be denied in any way since its enshrined in the constitution of Brazil. Please stop spreading disinformation. No child can be denied Brazilian nationality if born in Brazil period!

It is true that no child can be denied Brazilian nationality if born in Brazil.  However, that does not mean that  the parents don't have to worry about legal problems with Brazilian authorities if they lie to the Consulate in requesting their visa, to Immigration on arrival, or to the Federal Police, particularly if they don't genuinely intend to live in Brazil permanently.

Brazil does not issue passports of convenience, so one thing that's certain is that the foreign parents of an infant born in Brazil cannot obtain Brazilian passports.  Obtaining permanent residency in Brazil is a process that requires several months in-country, and an established residence in Brazil.   An infant's Brazilian passport is only valid for one year, so if they return to their country of origin, even the baby won't have a passport after their first year.  Coming to Brazil to have a child and then to go back home is a large investment for a questionable return.

You joined Expat.com three days ago.  I see no sign either of any previous post by you, or of your having any experience in or knowledge of Brazil.  Curious.

The OP was on giving birth in Brazil and obtaining residency afterwards. They want to declare conference for a tourist visa justification as their basis to enter Brazil on their visa application. That is fraud. That constitutes breaking  the law and infringement of the country´s sovereignty punishable by imprisonment up to 3 years and fine. The country can do anything to protect the rights, finances and safety of their citizens as dictated by circumstances especially if the foundation was based on fraud. There´s no limit as to how severe and duration they´ll conclude. Nothing is guaranteed as taxpayers´and politicians come into play. Laws and politics change so there´s no prediction on how they would deal with volatile situations as they arise. I can only tell people to respect the laws of other countries and be truthful of their purpose. So declare honestly your intentions and if they refuse, it´s their right of decision and sovereignty. You also would like for people to respect your country´s laws. So I can imagine that you wouldn´t be so happy if people lie to your government of their purpose in coming to Pakistan whether maybe spying or giving birth.

And I said "POSSIBLE" denial of citizenship. Got that? It´s not absolute. Re-read that again if in doubt!
The govt can change laws later on and abolish what was previously given especially if it was obtained illegally.

Canada and the US are now very active of implementing laws for "anchor babies" with regards to denying citizenship and the trend is always to increase to other countries. There has been foreign nationals prosecuted in the US for helping "anchor baby" parents.

Brazil has enough problems already and we don´t want want additional uncalled for burden.

robal

I just noticed THE GUY from Pakistan has been banned already... Oops! I was only trying to be the devil´s advocate! Too thin a skin to stay in Forums!  :D

robal

All advice noted and taken. But I want correct a notion. Whether am pregnant or not I will be in Rio this April for a conference with my colleagues fully funded by my government. I just want to use the opportunity to have my baby in Brazil since am pregnant anyways and honestly it will be desirable to do so. If you are saying I should also declare in my application that I may have my baby in Brazil, that is fine. But I don't think I have committed any fraud because am attending a conference and Brazilian Authority is aware that Nigeria government is sending delegates to the conference. But I appreciate all the advice. Thank you .

If you´re a holder of a diplomatic or an official passport and in Brazil to serve as an official function, your child won´t be considered a Brazilian citizen. Look at Article 12
below of Brazil´s constitution:

https://www.jusbrasil.com.br/topicos/10 … al-de-1988

robal

Am not a diplomat and am not holding an official passport. I have my normal ordinary passport.

And thank you for your honest advice. I really appreciate it. Thank you.

Janet we are not saying you have committed fraud, just be sure you are truthful and desire to give birth. (You said you are 23 weeks along ,now more)
Fill out the visa application (read the system may be down and Feb 28th and 29th for updated visa information).
Go to the interview with all documents and medical insurance, funds for expenses and such. You will need doctor permission to fly for the airlines.
We just want you to be aware that even if you have a visa, it does not mean the DPF will allow you to enter.
A visa is only good for 90 days and you be asked for a return airlines ticket without one raises a red flag.

Best of luck

Texanbrazil :

Janet we are not saying you have committed fraud, just be sure you are truthful and desire to give birth. (You said you are 23 weeks along ,now more)
Fill out the visa application (read the system may be down and Feb 28th and 29th for updated visa information).
Go to the interview with all documents and medical insurance, funds for expenses and such. You will need doctor permission to fly for the airlines.
We just want you to be aware that even if you have a visa, it does not mean the DPF will allow you to enter.
A visa is only good for 90 days and you be asked for a return airlines ticket without one raises a red flag.

Best of luck

She´ll be on her 9th month of gestation come April. I don´t know if they would allow her to fly. About 16 hrs 30min flight with more than one stop... Oh Lord.

Flying is also a risk factor for developing blood clots, but it has more to do with the amount of time you’re sitting in the cabin than actually being up in the air.
If you’re going on an international flight or one that travels over water within four weeks of your due date, you’ll need to get cleared by a special assistance coordinator which works for the airlines. Now, not all have this coordinator and required to have an OBYGN  clearance. Many airline will allow domestic flights, but still have requirements.
No airline desires to declare a med. emergency and have to divert the flight.
May be harder to get airline tickets (depart and return is required from many countries) than a visa.
Odds in Las Vegas are better than this situation.

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