Starting up in Budapest soon

klsallee wrote:

And since you did not state otherwise, I can only assume you do not own a business, and are simply arguing from a "wage slave" pro-government persona.... 

I actually do.

www.taskatar.hu

Of course I'm pro-government. My wage doubled in the last 10 years (I run that online store in my free time, I have a normal job too). I see my city, my country grow around me, and it is something the left couldnt achieve since 1990. This current golden age we live in here is only matched by by the 1867-1914 period of Hungary.

I made the mistake of voting left in 2006. They didnt deliver what they preached about, instead borrowed ourselves into oblivion in the middle of a recession. Never again I will vote left again. (protesting against a hospital, while bashing the government of not building any? WTF?)

But I would gladly vote for a professional government, who would run this place as a company, not along idiotic ideals.

Rawlee wrote:

klsallee wrote:

And since you did not state otherwise, I can only assume you do not own a business, and are simply arguing from a "wage slave" pro-government persona.... 

I actually do.

www.taskatar.hu

....

But I would gladly vote for a professional government, who would run this place as a company, not along idiotic ideals.

Nice bags,   

What's a professional government? 

A country is not a company.  It's large group of many types of people with different interests and objectives. 

Companies have been aware for years they need to have greater awareness of their social responsibilities.   

The commercial world is littered with mistakes made by corporate negligence.  We certainly know about them more now - from United Airlines very visibly endorsing the beating up ethnic Asian passengers to chemical spills to fracking earthquakes and even corporate manslaughter by Boeing (allegedly anyway).

I've been on this planet a while now and personally I've come to accept that there's no perfect solution.  It's all full of mistakes, bigotry, positiveness, disaster and innovation all at the same time.  It's just the price we pay for muddling along as the dominant "intelligent" lifeform.  Anthropologically, it must surely make no sense to  disenfranchise different sections of the population.  It's not good for the survival of the species longer term.

fluffy2560 wrote:

What's a professional government?

I think a professional government is when a finance minister is someone who studied finance, an education minister is a teacher or professor, a health minister is a nurse/doctor, etc. And the ministries are run by people how studied those fields. I mean, the worst minister of war we had thought war should not exists, and actually was againt buying weapons. WTF???

And how it would work is the separate ministries would be subordinates to each other. Like, if the ministry of economics wants to build a power plant, the ministry of justice would only help with the paperwork, and not bark into the generator specifications, while is the ministry of justice wants a bunch of new cars, the transportation ministry would only order the cars, not decide which car they can get.

Currently governments are like effing talent shows, except everybody only promises a performance, but does not actually do it. You mostly have to imagine it. And are run by marketing specialists, who have no business running a country.

Like a dumb kickstarter campaign. Sometimes, you get something that resembles the promised product, but its mostly a hustle. And now all parties are hustlers.

Rawlee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

What's a professional government?

I think a professional government is when a finance minister is someone who studied finance, an education minister is a teacher or professor, a health minister is a nurse/doctor, etc. And the ministries are run by people how studied those fields. I mean, the worst minister of war we had thought war should not exists, and actually was againt buying weapons. WTF???

I moved this to Absolutely Anything Else as it was going off topic.

fluffy2560 wrote:

Rawlee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

What's a professional government?

I think a professional government is when a finance minister is someone who studied finance, an education minister is a teacher or professor, a health minister is a nurse/doctor, etc. And the ministries are run by people how studied those fields. I mean, the worst minister of war we had thought war should not exists, and actually was againt buying weapons. WTF???

I moved this to Absolutely Anything Else as it was going off topic.

Was going to say its going way off topic and suggest it continued in [Absolutely Anything Else]

Rawlee wrote:

klsallee wrote:

And since you did not state otherwise, I can only assume you do not own a business, and are simply arguing from a "wage slave" pro-government persona.... 

I actually do.

www.taskatar.hu

Then you should know, or at least your competent accountant should have told you (and anyone starting a business in Hungary needs to find a competent accountant), that any smart business should do the most it can to limit its tax burden, and any smart business will take all allowed deductions that can benefit the business, and work to put the money the business earned to help the business rather than just pay it off in taxes.... Unless you work for the government (in your day job), I can guarantee your employer is doing exactly that. And if you know or got such good advice, why are we debating?

Rawlee wrote:

Of course I'm pro-government. My wage doubled in the last 10 years (I run that online store in my free time, I have a normal job too).

Ah.... So your business is not your only source of income, and more a hobby.... KATA?

Well for those that actually make all income from business (BT, KFT, etc).... It is different.

Side note: When my wife was still a "wage slave", and before she started her own business, the current government's change in tax law at that time actually decreased her take home income. Just saying your experience with income and the government is not the same as everyone's.