To WhatsApp and Facebook users: You have nothing to hide?

It is amazing that people still use Facebook despite recently exposed information for 90 million users. People are just ignorant that FB is selling your data. You are a product for FB.

When we moved to Malaysia, it was stunning that practically everybody is connected via Whatsapp. So sad that people blindly trust big corporations. Many people say that they have nothing to hide. Yet, when I ask to give me all their passwords, pictures, and their private information so that I publish this on the Internet, no one so far volunteered.

When we came to Malaysia, I had to install Whatsapp with my new Malaysian phone number because it was the only way to communicate with one person here. What happened next is astonishing!  I've got about 20 threads of private communications with all the images, bank accounts, whereabouts and etc. from a PREVIOUS USER FOR the same phone number! I removed Whasapp immediately and never wish to install it again.

What is the alternative?-
I use Viber Messanger. Read about its security on wikipedia and compare to Whatsapp.
In Whatsapp, you can't delete your old messages; there is no option "Delete for all" there. Whatsapp owns your messages. You can delete your messages for a recipient in Viber no matter how old they are.
Viber can't even get to your encrypted communication. Also in Viber, you can have a secrete chat with a timer feature which allows for a whole chat to be deleted permanently.

There is also Signal Messanger. It is an open source, which means that all the code in it can be checked by any independent programmers. So far, this app is #1 recommended by Edward Snowden. It doesn't have all the features Viber has, but it is robust and does a good job so far for us.

So, if you still want to continue using Whatsapp and FB, please post your passwords and your private information here for everyone to see.  :)

Anything juicy?

. What happened next is astonishing!  I've got about 20 threads of private communications with all the images, bank accounts, whereabouts and etc. from a PREVIOUS USER FOR the same phone number!

My email is in my profile and the password is - imnottellingyoubecauseitsmine

As for FB, course they do, they're a business, not a charity.

The trick is not posting anything you don't want public in public.
It's not hard.

Fred :

As for FB, course they do, they're a business, not a charity.

Many businesses choose not to sell users' data. This is up to the users if to care or not.

Fred :

The trick is not posting anything you don't want public in public.

Anything you post, like or view in FB is used to build your psychological profile by computer algorithms. Then it is sold to the marketers, insurance companies, HR companies and anyone, including governments. The latest big example was Russia using the data of millions of FB users to influence people's opinion.

expat000 :

Anything you post, like or view in FB is used to build your psychological profile by computer algorithms. Then it is sold to the marketers, insurance companies, HR companies and anyone, including governments. The latest big example was Russia using the data of millions of FB users to influence people's opinion.

The above is entirely true, but falls down when you post total crap on these sites.
I have linkedin and FB so I can see other people's stuff, not to post anything. Both profiles are just made up rubbish, just there because the sites required a profile setting up before I could gain access.
I was quite surprised when people actually offered me work from my Linkedin, more so when the avatar is slightly disgusting, obviously fake, and the rest is a load of old crap.
It just goes so show how many people misuse such platforms for whatever reasons they have in mind.
As for the Russians, yep, very probably, but not my stuff as it's so crackpot in nature, and quite deliberately so.
However, I do use some social media for work, but that just leads to my work and there's nothing in there any group could use for anything meaningful.
There's far more information about me in posts here, but not quite enough to work much out, and anyone looking at my profile might well get confused.

My one weakness is WA - That has all my contacts and a lot of information that could well be used by Russian troll farms - or the CIA - or the coppers - or anyone else that really wanted information.

Apps known for data harvesting are used, but I have them on a separate phone that has nothing else on it and is signed in under a different username.
Sorry, ride hailing apps, you aren't getting the stuff on my main phone.

Let's go back to carving stone tablets..... Oops dropped it  :lol:

Seriously. Read Homo Deus by Yuvak Noah Harari. (A brief History of Tomorrow)

That should put WA and FB concerns in perspective.

Fearmongering is rarely productive. People use technology in vastly different ways and to suggest carte blanche the dangers are enormous disregards that spectrum.

Footnote: in Malaysia and other countries there is probably more surveillance and data scrutiny by government agencies than corporate entities based on keywords.

Gravitas,
Respectfully, you completely missed what I was stating in my message.
"Knowledge is power"

As you don't use FB or WA you are talking hypothetically.

Most people value being connected for better quality of life.

Life is lived with risks every day. Mine are controlled ones and I enjoy a great network of people through those apps. They are widely used in Malaysia and I m happy to use them in a manner which I think is safe enough.

Your decision is different from mine. I can accept yours so perhaps you should accept mine.

Knowledge is power so be like my old maths teacher, never give any out.
I won't stop using social media, but I simply don't include personal details

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