Streaming video in Vietnam without vpn ok?

sixxof9 wrote:

I am moving to Da Nang in 3 months to retire and we watch virtually everything through streaming on tv. Some authorized and maybe some questionable, atleast in the US. Is the internet good enough to stream with an out of country vpn, or if I don't use one, will there be any legal concern from the Vietnam government? I know you guys may not know the legalities but just asking for personal opinions. Thanks.

Porn is illegal here.

I've heard Roku can somehow detect a VPN and block it. No idea if that's true.

Using my Roku 3 with an ethernet connection to average speed modem included in my apartment rental, I've had no problem streaming Netflix.

Amazon Prime seems to be a bit more sensitive to the lack of true high speeds at my place. Stream locks up about 50% of the time.

Wifi reading 14mbps on my phone as I write this. I'm in Đà Nẵng.

I'm pretty sure speed and content upgrades are available here, but I've never looked into those options, as I'm very satisfied with Netflix on the T.V. and my android  tablet & smartphone.

Thanks Ocean, but not talking about porn. I am using several iptv services here in the Philippines because the TV programing is so bad. It is also the only way I can watch programs from the US. I watch Netflix when necessary but much prefer to use my iptv services for more selection.

Internet speed is very good. I have no problem streaming either Netflix or Amazon.

My VPN still works with Amazon, but not Netflix.
I routinly get using Sppedtest:
Ping 5ms
DL 26Mbps
Up 28 Mbps

It's good to know that Netflix and Amazon are available, but I may be confusing some members with my question. Here, in the Philippines, I mostly use an IPTV service on my android box or sideloaded on my Amazon Fire tv in order to download or stream any movie, NFL, MLB, NHL, or tv show that I want. I can get programming from around the world but I use it primarily for U.S. movies and to watch live news programs in the U.S. I use a VPN so as not to have any problems of internet providers tracking my IP address. I appreciate very much the replies I have received but if any member living in Vietnam is familiar with what I am asking I would love to hear your experiences.

I thought i answered your question about VPN.

My IPTV works fine, through WiFi it can be questionable at times, but with a  wired connection it's flawless.

I don't use a VPN and am yet to be taken away so you'll be fine.

You gave me good information but my real question was concerning using an IPTV service with a VPN. Netflix and Amazon are paid subscription services that differ from IPTV.

Thank you 1312J.

sixxof9 wrote:

You gave me good information but my real question was concerning using an IPTV service with a VPN. Netflix and Amazon are paid subscription services that differ from IPTV.

I hope you aren't offended by this, but you are being just vague enough to force us to read between the lines, so here's what I'm 'hearing' you ask:

Is it safe and possible in Vietnam (using a VPN) to view copyright protected streams for free using a "fully loaded" (altered) box?

I think it's just as easy here to cheat copyright holders.

If I'm off base, school me (us).

A bit judgemental, but close to what I was asking.

OceanBeach92107 wrote:

sixxof9 wrote:

You gave me good information but my real question was concerning using an IPTV service with a VPN. Netflix and Amazon are paid subscription services that differ from IPTV.

I hope you aren't offended by this, but you are being just vague enough to force us to read between the lines, so here's what I'm 'hearing' you ask:

Is it safe and possible in Vietnam (using a VPN) to view copyright protected streams for free using a "fully loaded" (altered) box?

I think it's just as easy here to cheat copyright holders.

If I'm off base, school me (us).

sixxof9 wrote:

A bit judgemental, but close to what I was asking.

Speaking as a multiple copyright holder:

I used "cheat" as a verb.

It is an assessment, not a judgment.

A judgement would be to call YOU a cheat, and condemn you for it.

I would (probably) never do that...

Hi there !

I am living in Ho Chi Minh City, but I have heard that the network in Da Nang might actually be even better than here.

It will definitely be better than the Philippines.

I have usually no problem with streaming here, whether it's on Youtube or sites like Putlockers, and Netflix is just perfect. I don't think they are too concerned here about copyright infrigements. A bar in my neighborhood litterally do screenings of movies that got released like 2 or 3 weeks prior.

Cheers

LesMichels.fr wrote:

Hi there !

I am living in Ho Chi Minh City, but I have heard that the network in Da Nang might actually be even better than here.

It will definitely be better than the Philippines.

I have usually no problem with streaming here, whether it's on Youtube or sites like Putlockers, and Netflix is just perfect. I don't think they are too concerned here about copyright infrigements. A bar in my neighborhood litterally do screenings of movies that got released like 2 or 3 weeks prior.

Cheers

Here there are new films with Vietnamese subtitles on television before they are released on DVD in the West.

Appreciate it. I have had some feedback pretty much accusing me of being a criminal! I just want to have access to my home countries programming and it is sadly lacking here. In the Philippines a DVR is pretty much non-existent and I can't stand sitting through commercials. Do Vietnam cable companies actually have DVR/PVR options?

I know the Koreans get everything early and put hard coded Korean subtitles on their films. Is it the same on TV there?

sixxof9 wrote:

Appreciate it. I have had some feedback pretty much accusing me of being a criminal! I just want to have access to my home countries programming and it is sadly lacking here.

How horrible for you!

I would NEVER call you a criminal, unless you were committing a CRIME...

Just because you apparently ignore intellectual property rights derived from your "countries" Constitution (Article I, Section 8, Clause 8), that doesn't make it a crime in another country that doesn't enforce those laws...does it?

I mean, it's not legal in the U.S., the source of that programming.

Perhaps you are only unconstitutional?

I understand that this forum is part of "social media" so there are always people that want to impose their sense of morality on every legitimate question a member may have. I seek only information from members that know more about the subject I inquired about then I have myself. It seems that this forum has certain people that really have nothing better to do with their lives that troll every topic submission and reply. Having said that, I appreciate that almost all of my replies have been helpful and I thank those members. To a certain member who does seem to want to personalize every post, please do me a great solid and don't bother to reply to any of my future posts since I really don't find anything you say informative or useful.

sixxof9 wrote:

I understand that this forum is part of "social media" so there are always people that want to impose their sense of morality on every legitimate question a member may have.

No. This is about my sense of LEGALITY, for two reasons:

1. I'm a songwriter and publisher myself, so I prefer to clarify what people mean in public forums when they are talking about actions which might violate the LEGAL rights of other copyright holders.

2. This forum has a policy of not allowing us to promote ILLEGAL activities in our host nation (though IMMORTALITY seems to be fair game). So I've been attempting to get you to acknowledge whether you are talking about something ILLEGAL.

sixxof9 wrote:

To a certain member who does seem to want to personalize every post, please do me a great solid and don't bother to reply to any of my future posts since I really don't find anything you say informative or useful.

I figured as much, but none of us own a thread in this forum, and once a statement is made it's fair game for anyone to reply appropriately, even if only to keep the record straight for the lurking "Dear Reader".

And let's not forget, you INVITED my input through your title of this thread:

"Steaming video in Vietnam without vpn ok?"

I've just been pointing out why it might not be "ok" with the copyright holders you might be ripping off.

Cheers!

Obviously there is a misunderstanding over a typo error. 

To Ocean Beach:  You need to lighten up a little on this one.  I read right past the typo several times thinking that it said "streaming."  I forget what it is called but this is a common perception phenomenon.  Streaming is certainly what the OP meant.  You perhaps are just too in tune with the actual words.

To the OP:  Next time look over what you have typed before you hit send.

THIGV wrote:

Obviously there is a misunderstanding over a typo error.

Nope.

Everything continues to read as it has since this thread began.

"Streaming" is exactly what I thought the OP meant. Notice I never corrected or pointed out the typo. I thought I'd leave that to an English teacher.

THIGV wrote:

To Ocean Beach:  You need to lighten up a little on this one.  I read right past the typo several times thinking that it said "streaming."  I forget what it is called but this is a common perception phenomenon.  Streaming is certainly what the OP meant.  You perhaps are just too in tune with the actual words.

I'm in tune with copyright law. I know exactly what he was asking and I know the laws related to this issue.

As a digital content creator and exploiter (singer-songwriter, producer and publisher) this subject is probably much more important to me than it is to you.

I don't feel the need to be policed on this one.

Leggo of my ego!

THIGV wrote:

Obviously there is a misunderstanding over a typo error. 


To Ocean Beach:

Here is the red flag that caught my attention:

sixxof9 wrote:

...we watch virtually everything through streaming on tv. Some authorized and maybe some questionable, atleast in the US. Is the internet good enough to stream with an out of country vpn, or if I don't use one, will there be any legal concern from the Vietnam government? I know you guys may not know the legalities but just asking for personal opinions. Thanks.

"Maybe some questionable"

He knows exactly what he's doing with his fully loaded box.

Look, I'm not on a crusade against everyone who steals cable or otherwise rips off digital content owners, but when someone posts something like that, making it clear that they understand they are breaking copyright law, in this forum I will probably always challenge their attempt to put an acceptable face on unacceptable actions.

I do know the "legalities".

I use a VPN on all my devices at all times, on general principles. There's no practical way for a carrier to block/prevent you, as it's exactly the same tech that banking or subscription services or any other secure site uses.

Asian Countries are little restricted for streaming and using VPN, but some VPN services like Express VPN does work great, I am personally using PureVPN in Philipines to watch Netflix of different regions.

sixxof9 wrote:

Appreciate it. I have had some feedback pretty much accusing me of being a criminal! I just want to have access to my home countries programming and it is sadly lacking here. In the Philippines a DVR is pretty much non-existent and I can't stand sitting through commercials. Do Vietnam cable companies actually have DVR/PVR options?

Sort of.
They have the ability to rewind up to 2 hours on many channels.
And the ability to see the last 24 hours on a few Vietnamese channels.

Also, you will not like the whole dubbing scene here. Very few Vietnam shows with English subs, virtually none in fact, though I did just see one last month for the first time.
Many movies, dramas, use a single translator voice over which has to be the most annoying thing ever.

Also, Vietnamese dramas seem to have a separate voice track, meaning the dialogue is recorded on a sound stage and thus feels pretty artificial compared to K-Ds.

Lastly, streaming YouTube, etc without VPN is fine.

Hi, who is your ISP?, I'm having a bad experience withFPT blocking my iptv on Firestick also blocking my Vpn 
Be interested to know if you're still happy with your isp .

Wdpch64 wrote:

Hi, who is your ISP?, I'm having a bad experience withFPT blocking my iptv on Firestick also blocking my Vpn 
Be interested to know if you're still happy with your isp .

Your ISP cannot block your VPN, it's just a ssh/ssl tunnel, they block those then they break half the rest of the internet for all their customers. All they can do is blacklist specific server IP addresses, but most VPN providers have thousands of servers to choose from. Currently using IPvanish, works perfectly on every wifi network I've tried and also via my Viettel cellular connection.

Wdpch64 wrote:

Hi, who is your ISP?, I'm having a bad experience withFPT blocking my iptv on Firestick also blocking my Vpn 
Be interested to know if you're still happy with your isp .

Your ISP cannot block your VPN, it's just a ssh/ssl tunnel, they block those then they break 90% of the internet for all their customers. All they can do is blacklist specific server IP addresses, but most VPN providers have thousands of servers to choose from. Currently using IPvanish, works perfectly on every wifi network I've tried and also via my Viettel cellular connection.

Ok ,cheers

Any ideas how stop them? FPT don't let you get into the settings!

Wdpch64 wrote:

Any ideas how stop them? FPT don't let you get into the settings!

You shouldn't need to noodle with anything related to your ISP or router. Just make sure your VPN client on your device(s) is configured according to whatever instructions the VPN provider gives. You should be able to select a server by country/city from within the VPN app. If you try a bunch and no joy then maybe your VPN provider is bogus and taking your money for nothing, try one of the others mentioned here or check out some online reviews. There is no such thing as a free VPN by the way, it'll cost you a few bucks a month. But a good one is worth it.

I have NordVPN, and when they run a test they told me that my vpn was being blocked by my ISP. I have since downloaded open vpn on their instructions, but are still having problems.

Porn is illegal here.


I was watching porn no problem in Saigon.

How does it work ,, do the police show up at your door?

Guess I was too fast for them

Porn is one of those things that governments declare illigal out of sheer spite, because they haven't figured out a way of robbing you for it yet.

illegal to watch?or illegal to produce and sell?

1willy1 wrote:

illegal to watch?or illegal to produce and sell?

Possession, viewing, production, distribution

THIGV wrote:

Obviously there is a misunderstanding over a typo error.

It looks like ADMIN corrected the typo in thread title.

No more "steaming"...

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