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zif wrote:

This is from 2002:

"A typical 15-year-old boy weighed 135.5 1966 and 150.3 pounds by 2002. A typical 15-year-old girl went from 124.2 pounds to 134.4 pounds."

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As for adults, the 2002 study linked above says, "The average weight for men rose 'dramatically,' in the CDC's words, from 166.3 pounds in 1960 to 191 pounds in 2002. Women went from 140.2 pounds in 1960 to 164.3 pounds in 2002."

I once worked on an island in the Indian Ocean. Mrs Fluffy and I towered over the locals who were all really short. And we're not big people at all - we're small or average compared to other Europeans.   Then I was in Burma and it was Land of the Giants.   I thought it was a bit strange but my colleague pointed out that it's nutrition based - different nutrition, larger people.  In countries that have "modernised" over decades, the parents are smaller and the children are larger.  My colleague said it's different and more Westernised food that's doing it.

fluffy2560 wrote:

zif wrote:

This is from 2002:

"A typical 15-year-old boy weighed 135.5 1966 and 150.3 pounds by 2002. A typical 15-year-old girl went from 124.2 pounds to 134.4 pounds."

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As for adults, the 2002 study linked above says, "The average weight for men rose 'dramatically,' in the CDC's words, from 166.3 pounds in 1960 to 191 pounds in 2002. Women went from 140.2 pounds in 1960 to 164.3 pounds in 2002."

I once worked on an island in the Indian Ocean. Mrs Fluffy and I towered over the locals who were all really short. And we're not big people at all - we're small or average compared to other Europeans.   Then I was in Burma and it was Land of the Giants.   I thought it was a bit strange but my colleague pointed out that it's nutrition based - different nutrition, larger people.  In countries that have "modernised" over decades, the parents are smaller and the children are larger.  My colleague said it's different and more Westernised food that's doing it.

Wow, the CDC was interviewing some "heavy hitters".
160 lbs for an average women seems a bit "chubby" to me.
I agree about diet and height being determanded by what foods and health care one received growing up.
My mom for example was only 5'4" tall but her father who was from German stock was 6'4" tall.
Her mom was half British and half native American and from what I know was a small sized person.
Less then 5'4" tall.
Her father was born in 1882 to a well to do family which would account for having a good diet without chemical GMO products.
Mom grew up during the US depression years . Never went hungry as her mom was a cook for a wealthy family who often told her to bring home their left overs to her family.Had fruit etc. when not available to many other children.
My step- dad used to dig into trash cans in the 1930's a a kid because his parents just couldn't feed all of their 8 kids enough on a miners income. He was only 5'7" tall as a result.
It's perhaps both a mix of DNA and nutrition.
160 lbs. is perhaps more to do with consuming a diet full of GMO foods then actually having a healthy natural diet.
I'm 5'9" tall and holding a steady weight of 123 to 124 lbs. and believe I eat a variety of healthy home made foods.
My older sister used to be tiny but over the years of cooking for herself, eating items such as Subway sandwichs and fast foods and not doing her old karate workouts, she is chubby now.
My deceased sister was 5'10" tall and was between 118 and 122 lbs. She was always eating too.
Thyroid maybe? There are many factors with being overweight, too much sugar, white flour and the wrong sorts of cooking oils and salts can add extra lbs. without seeming to be over eating.
My son, 6'3" tall and under 165lbs. never ate much meat products growing up and to this day doesn't eat enough for a grown man, still he has allot of energy but avoids most all "junk foods".
he is heads over his new countrymen , Japan, that must be a bit weird for him, center of attention where ever he goes. Could get uncomfortable to be watched all the time.
My mom always claimed she should of been a few inches taller if not for hard living conditions while she was growing up. Her wealthy grandparents didn't provide any support for her.
Still she had more stanima  and energy then I see with young people these days in general.
Swing dancing, working full time, raising a family doing her own home repairs and never seemed to sit down for a min. without doing something. Glyphosates in foods, stripping of the growing soil, lack of iodine and other minerals in everyones diet is not going to lead to anything good.
I'm afraid to say the future health of many who now are under age 40 isn't going to be very rosy in the future.
More and more pre-packaged foods are consumed and people are less active then even 20 years ago.
We should be teaching more about health in schools then about useless things that very few people will actually ever need to know in the "real" world.
Not to get off topic, found a source for liquid iodine, going to give it a try when the stores reopen after this holiday. My son has been eating "seaweed" snacks in Japan for iodine. He also has the liquid form.
Not sure over doing iodine is great either, need to find the right amount for one's own personal needs.
It's not a bad idea to take iodine if one is doing allot of air travel suppose to help balance the free radicals that traveling exposes you to.
Most foods have been stripped of minerals by farming tech and chemicals  in the fertilizers. Even non GMO foods are often grown in depleted soils, perhaps they have not been sprayed but the soil is still depleted of nutrition.
We could learn allot from the old ways such as the native Mohawks who grew 3 crops together and added fish to their soils. Believe it is refered to as the 3 sisters growing system.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

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Not to get off topic, found a source for liquid iodine, going to give it a try when the stores reopen after this holiday. My son has been eating "seaweed" snacks in Japan for iodine. He also has the liquid form.
Not sure over doing iodine is great either, need to find the right amount for one's own personal needs.
It's not a bad idea to take iodine if one is doing allot of air travel suppose to help balance the free radicals that traveling exposes you to.
Most foods have been stripped of minerals by farming tech and chemicals  in the fertilizers. Even non GMO foods are often grown in depleted soils, perhaps they have not been sprayed but the soil is still depleted of nutrition.
We could learn allot from the old ways such as the native Mohawks who grew 3 crops together and added fish to their soils. Believe it is refered to as the 3 sisters growing system.

I met a guy at an airport once and he was a specialist in salt mining and producing and distributing iodised salt.  Quite unusual thing to know about.  He told me quite a bit about it and it's extremely important to have enough in the diet - especially for expectant mothers. 

But there's loads of it about - in milk, in shrimp, tuna and eggs.   I am sure for most people with a healthy diet, they'd get  more than others.

It sounds like the Mohawks had  a good system going and I bet they had a higher than average lifespan.  In the UK, as a sea-faring nation, it's pretty normal to put fish meal on your garden or soil to improve it.

BTW, the Donald's mate, Woody Johnson, Ambassador to the UK has recently decided to weigh in on the debate over food imports into the UK, particularly promoting the use of chlorines to clean chicken.  As part of an article (click here), the BBC did some  fact checking and Woody fails on his claims - obviously the Trump school of alternative truths. Woody should mind his own business and stick to American football.   There has always been a convention that US Ambassadors to the UK are seen but not heard.

Not to be overly critical but the food I saw on my recent visit to North America looks incredibly unhealthy - fat laden, sugary and highly processed.  I think your son has probably added 10 years to his life span by moving to Japan.

He quit his high pressure underpaid casino job.
Spending his days ATM practicing his Japanese, exercising and meditating.
Will be job hunting soon but needs to clear his head first.
He is very happy there and says he will never return to the states.
He says the food selection there isn't as large as in the US but what they have is fresh and good.
In the US we hardly shopped at all in a normal grocery store.
Went to 3 different health food style shops, one was called, Whole Foods" my son told me though that that chain of store is owned by Monsanto.. hmm, not sure what to say about that!
Don't see much fresh shrimp here, don't drink much milk, maybe later when I see the fresh milk here at the farmers market.
Shrimp has too much mercury in it as well.
The box milk is not great stuff, taste is ok but product makes me wonder.
Eggs, I only eat a small amount of those.
Iodine is in some greens, dates and some beans but I'm going to try the liquid drops.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

We could learn allot from the old ways such as the native Mohawks who grew 3 crops together and added fish to their soils. Believe it is refered to as the 3 sisters growing system.

I have grown using the three sisters method. Works well for home gardens. But needs a lot of space, and not really saleable because harvest is more labor intensive than simple row crops.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Whole Foods" my son told me though that that chain of store is owned by Monsanto.. hmm, not sure what to say about that!

Sighs....

I can say something about that: Sorry: but your son is just simply wrong.

Seriously,. these things are so easy to know the actual facts. If anything, first check Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_Foods_Market

Whole Foods was an independent company, until recently, when they were bought by Amazon (not Monsanto). There was even a lot of press in the US about this purchase by Amazon when it happened. Hard to figure out how anyone living there could have missed it. I live her, and even I was aware of it. 

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

He quit his high pressure underpaid casino job.
Spending his days ATM practicing his Japanese, exercising and meditating.
Will be job hunting soon but needs to clear his head first.
He is very happy there and says he will never return to the states.
He says the food selection there isn't as large as in the US but what they have is fresh and good.
In the US we hardly shopped at all in a normal grocery store.
Went to 3 different health food style shops, one was called, Whole Foods" my son told me though that that chain of store is owned by Monsanto.. hmm, not sure what to say about that!
Don't see much fresh shrimp here, don't drink much milk, maybe later when I see the fresh milk here at the farmers market.
Shrimp has too much mercury in it as well.
The box milk is not great stuff, taste is ok but product makes me wonder.
Eggs, I only eat a small amount of those.
Iodine is in some greens, dates and some beans but I'm going to try the liquid drops.

I am not sure I'd want much fish or shrimps out of the waters near Japan, especially near Fukushima.

Never say never - I bet he returns to the US, at least sometimes.  I go to the UK quite a lot.  The longest I've ever been away without visiting is 1 year.

Why only a small amount of eggs?  Eggs are really good for you. 

Too much iodine will mess you up!

Never liked eggs much, use them in cooking mostly.
If we make an egg omellete we use 3 eggs but I eat less then 1/3rd of it.
Just not my fave thing.
Like egg nog though... Rum or no rum.

I doubt he will be returning to the US anytime soon.
Might have to travel to SE Asia to see him again or Japan.
He lives in S. Japan far as possible from the nuke accident, but still... not good.

Bought my liquid iodine but will take less then the 3 drops and not everyday, see how it works, suppose to give you a clear head...Not sure that's a good thing either.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

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I doubt he will be returning to the US anytime soon.
Might have to travel to SE Asia to see him again or Japan.
He lives in S. Japan far as possible from the nuke accident, but still... not good.

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If you see him glowing in the dark, he's not living far enough away. 

Confirmation would be if your grandchild has strange unearthly superhero powers, then you'll know for sure.