Before I start this question, I wanted to say that me and my Fiancé (of four years) learned from our young mistake. We're paying for it greatly and we still choose to stay together. I hope there would not be much prejudice or comments about young marriage as we've been through thick and thin, constantly battling that stigma, and fyi I have an illness that won't promise me kids. (I am legal)
Summary:
My student visa got denied back in the 1st week of December last year. We foolishly applied for a 9 month Deutsch language program without me having any proof of my rootedness to my PH (ex: job, university) I left uni to take a break and perhaps this was the backlash.
I've been traveling fine to EU for the past four years on tourist visas and for applied for the max stays on that visa. Only now did I get a stamp of an 'x' on my application and I can understand why.
Now I'm back in University and studying. I wish to apply for a proper Uni in Deutschland or in Netherlands (cause a certain major is taught in English) in a few more months when I have proper credits, but I am severely discouraged that I may get denied once again even if I get a go sign from the university.
The other problem of this is that I've heard Schengen Visa denials get recorded and shared by countries especially in around the Schengen area. So that means if I apply to the Netherland. Embassy even if I have a go sign from the Uni of that country, I still have huge chances of being denied?
I've had nightmares. Months of no longer than 3 hours of sleep with my denied visa invisible stamp on my passport.
Im scared it would affect me traveling to different countries now and I can no longer travel without feeling the fear.
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This aside, okay. Marriage. Now how do I do this in my state? I was urged by my Fiancé's family do apply for Student visa than a marriage visa because it was easier and either way it had similar requirements. But the student visa failed.
How difficult is it to marry as a university student who has no job and has a once denied student visa? I'm not encouraged to take this route because then the embassy would refuse me out front because of my latest history.
My family was complaining why don't we just get married in PH, and my Fiancé's family replied because it is harder and they won't acknowledged our marriage if we marry in PH (yes I know that the German husband can submit the documents to Germany to get it verified, but why is he still reluctant to try this?)
So it's not possible at all to marry in PH? Too complicated? And what are the chances of the embassy denying our marriage in the Philippines or in Germany? (I was advised to marry in Denmark btw)
Edit: I just read about all these stories that it's better to get married in the home country? What? I'm confused, I thought it would be difficult!
(Horror story: a friend of my Fiancé's family married a foreigner in foreign soil and when they applied for a marriage certificate it was not accepted, thus my fiancé's family's scare)
I apologize in advance for my chaotic situation. But I just want to be with my Fiancé soon, and I don't know how to move on from this, or the denied stamp. I don't know who to turn to as I am young and I only have this forum to read on.
Do I have to wait for 3 more years? Till I graduate or can I be with him now? It's been difficult...
What do I do now?
It would be strange to ask for a hug from this forum, but can someone please share comfort and encouragments? I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who suffer with visa woes.
Thank you for reading, have a good day.
Student wanting to get married or study in DE (latest visa denied)
I will try to reply to your long and confusing post.
Since things are not clear from what you wrote, I assume the following:
- You are from a non-EU country and currently staying there.
- Your partner is German, living in Germany and currently student.
- You want to marry and get a family reunion visa for Germany.
If that is correct, then the following applies:
- If you want to marry in Germany, you need to apply for a marriage visa at the German embassy (for marrying elsewhere, this is not necessary).
- Since the buerocratic hurdles for marrying a foreigner in Germany are extremely high (it takes at least 6 months and several thousand Euros to get all the formalities done), you may want to marry elsewhere. Recognition of a foreign marriage is far easier.
- If marrying in your country is also difficult, you may try Denmark, Las Vegas or Singapore, where marrying as foreigners is comparatively easy.
- After marrying, you can apply for a German family reunion visa (at your country's German embassy, or at the local Auslaenderbehoerde in case you married in Germany on a marriage visa). To get one, you need German language skills and your partner must be able to cover your living costs while in Germany. They might also check whether it's a fake marriage (just to get a visa) or a real one.
Don't panic: While difficult, frustrating and testing your patience, it is possible to find a way through these things if all sides show flexibility and goodwill.
Hello! Thank you for replying to me, I am so grateful for clarifying things and comforting me.
I am a Filipina and my man is German yes. If I'm correct, my country does not need any visa application to Singapore.
Is there any chances of my marriage being declined by Germany if I get married in Singapore, Beppi? Has there been such cases?
Because I am a student and he is as well, we are both financially dependent on our parents. My fiance has graduated BA and is currently studying Masters. But he's not working yet, would there be a problems/ complications if I apply for the family reunion visa in my local German Embassy? Because the support would be financed by his father.
A family reunion visa can be denied if the marriage is not real, but exists only to get a visa. Thus be prepared to show proof that you have a genuine and not just temporary relationship: Flight bookings of mutual visits (not just one!), hotel bookings of holiday trips together, communication and even pictures together can be helpful.
His father giving a security bond for your living costs would certainly also help.
Dealing with German officialdom is mostly frustrating and often feels unreasonable, but your only other choice is not living in Germany.
Also, google the requirements for foreign marriages at Singapore's ROM (Registry Of Marriages), if you want to go that route.
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