Can a foreigner holding RNE bring his wife from his country?

Hi,is there anyone who can help me regarding to my confusions?
if a foreigner got married with a Brazilian girl inside the Brazil and got RNE,but after 1 year of getting RNE he divorced his wife and had "Divorce Cetficate"..Can that foreign has eligibility to bring his new wife from his own country as a VIPER/PERMANENT visa?????
My 2nd last confusion is that somebody told me if any foreigner gets RNE in Brazil on the basis of marriage and if he has been divirced before competing 5 years of RNE then his RNE will not be cancel..is it true or not????
I am sure that you all will share your experince and knowledge to remove my doubts..big thanks in advance

I don't know about bringing a new wife based on your RNE, but you do not lose your RNE once you get it. There is no 5-year rule.

Jim

Thanks Jim,
Can you explain in details that is it sure if a foreigner gets RNE by marrying with BrazilIan and if he is divorced after 1 year of marriage.would his RNE will be considered valid???

I don't know about more detail, but once you have your permanency you don't lose it. I have seen this question on the forum several times. I have even seen it answered by a lawyer. there is no 5-year rule. you don't lose it in divorce. Your ex-wife does not own it or have any say in it.

Jim

No the RUN will not cancel after the divisor,and there is no rule for RNE cancelation like you're case.and second you xwife invition from you're country it better you send a letter for him

Dear Adnankhan1,

a lot of thanks for replying but honestly i did not understand what you said,please explain it                   
in details throughout simple words,i want to understand what you said.
please do it as soon possible.

Dear Adnankhan1,

a lot of thanks for replying but honestly i did not understand what you said,please explain it                   
in details throughout simple words,i want to understand what you said.
please do it as soon possible.

when you get RNE in brazil,your 1st wife can't cancel you RNE oka...

Thanks Adnankhan1,
thanks for your prompt reply.can you help me furthermore?
can I bring my wife from Pakistan as a dependent/family reunion

If you have your RNE you can sponser your wife and send her an invitation letter. She can apply for an RNE too. However , the nationality is a different vall game. When you go to renew your RNE there might be questions about revaliding it if you do not have any other strong ties to the country.

as I have mentioned that I was married with Brazilian and I got RNE based on marriage but unfortunately after 1 year of marriage we divorced.Now the main question is "is there any way to bring my new wife from my home country as a part of family reunion visa to brazil"???

Does your new wife have a Tourist visa to be able to come to Brazil?  She needs to get that first and then come here. Another question. Have you registered your marriage to her?  After that has been done then you should apply in the same way you did for yours. Another option is for her to apply for it at the Brazilian consulate where she lives. This is an uncommon situation. I don't know if you will be able to accomplish it.

jim

Dear Jiland912,
if my wife apply tourist visa then I am sure brazil embassy will refuse her visa.you asked about our marriage registration with Brazil embassy/consulate .
I want to inform you we have married here in my home country but we did not registered our marrige with embassy yet.can you explain me how is the procedure to registered marriage with Brazil embassy???

if you marriage  in pakistan ,apply for  a Marriage Certificate  Nadra office computerrise and attested form overseas office and attested from brazil ambassi in isb.Then send a invitation letter its better .

How are you so sure about that if you got RNE then divorce can't cancel RNE?  If wife complain against RNE holder then what will be happen? 

I am asking to be sure sir/ madam.

There's a very good chance that the final result would be losing the CRNM.
If the divorce were unfriendly, the Brazilian spouse could complain to the Polícia Federal immediately.   Even if the divorce were friendly, though, the holder of the CRNM would have to present the Brazilian divorce decree to the Brazilian Consulate in the home country to register the new marriage, and to request a VITEM XI visa for the new spouse.  The validity of the CRNM could be challenged at that point.
If the Consulate accepts the CRNM and registers the marriage and issues the visa, the first thing that will pop up in the Polícia Federal system when the CRNM holder requests a CRNM for the new wife will be the fact that the requester is in the country based on a marriage that was terminated.  At that point, it all depends on the Polícia Federal.

As said "There's a very good chance that the final result would be losing the CRNM."
Sitting next to an agent right now and he states PF are seeing many "marriage's for convenience"  topics at agent's meetings and to be on alert.
Pretty good source, I would say.

I have some question sir,

Q1: if PR holder not marry again and normally divorce happen in Brazil then what will be PR status? 

Q2: if Brazil wife tortured and hit husband for this reason husband leave wife and then wife complain against husband that husband came to  Brazil for PR then what will be happen?
Does police federal  investigate this reason?   ( husband have proof that wife tortured and hit   )

Have to hire lawyers and fight it out in BR courts.
My opinion: Case of "He said, She said" and courts may lean towards BR citizen. Also one mention of false marriage in court and it's done.
Sure he can go to Civil Police and file a report against spouse, not PF.
This is on "Can a foreigner holding RNE bring his wife from his country?" and really not the right forum you get help for the subject. Legal questions really need legal advice.

Did you divorce your wife or your wife divorced you?  And what happened next?  Please share your experience. I am suffered same like yiu.

This is on "Can a foreigner holding RNE bring his wife from his country?" and really not the right forum you get help for the subject. Legal questions really need legal advice.

This is an older post. Do not know who you are addressing question.

Sorry sir,  i asked rizwan who is Pakistani.  Perdon me. I am new this forum that's why i don’t know manythings

Badol919 :

Sorry sir,  i asked rizwan who is Pakistani.  Perdon me. I am new this forum that's why i don’t know manythings

Not a problem, but note that Rizwan's last post was almost two years ago:  he's probably long gone, and won't be responding to you.

Yeah, no issues here. Just questions as these are rare and folks like us are not the best for advice on difficult matters as this.
I can only help with matters I went through or going through.
You really need someone you know, instead of expats you are not familiar. If you need help, go to the civil police on domestic issues.

To Badol919,

Any domestic violence in Brazil should be reported to the Policia Militar for a "Boletim de Ocorrência."
This will help you in the divorce process in BR courts and later to the Policia Federal so you won´t lose your CRNM. You see, without proof PF could assume that you´re gaming the system...

It does appear that Rizwan Zulfiqar raised a red flag on the eyes of the PF as again "gaming the system."

robal

Robal I thought the investigation of crimes, such as detective work, forensics and criminal investigation, is handled by the Civil Police forces of the states.

Yes, you are right. But when the crime is on-going or just happened the Policia Militar which is always on patrol handles that. Just dial 190, tell them your location and they´ll come. They write the "Boletim de Ocorrência" (Incident Report) and schedule the court date for you right on the spot. Lengthy investigations like murders, robberies etc. fall on the Policia
Civil´s lap...

robal

Thanks Doc. I cannot keep the different Policia's straight

Yeah! US Police does it all. Not here. Just to confuse us!

And then there is the emergence of the Guarda Municipal! Citizens in Novo Hamburgo, RS where I live complain that they confuse their duties with the local
Brigada Militar (Policia Militar in RS). Instead more of traffic duties, they think that they
can also police use of drugs on streets and robberies...

So, welcome to Brazil! Guarda Municipal already stopped me 3 times this year for no reason! Its a waste of everybody´s time and resources of the local government. And the state of Rio Grande do Sul has been bankrupt for quite a while now!

Very inefficient use of resources. And how about car lights turned on during the day? It is supposed to be only intended for motorcycles! Citizens say that it was imposed so that radar detection would be easier so they can fine you for more state and federal revenues... And then the fire extinguishers in cars... Common! And then the new Mercosul car plates! What for? The current plates are already standardized - good for the whole country!

robal

Car lights on during the day?!?  Around here, it would be a major safety improvement if all drivers turned their lights on AT NIGHT!  :mad:

Some claim they have infrared vision like snakes. That´s why they don´t have to turn on their lights at night! I´m not surprised at all. Some of them behave like "cascavel" and I get vicious bites everytime I turn my back! :lol:

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