registering with the police

Hello, I just moved to Vietnam and live in an apartment that my Vietnamese girlfriend rents. I understand that usually the hotels will register our address for us when staying there but I was just told that hotels are the only place that can register my address and that I'm not allowed to live in her apartment. This seems very bizarre as many expats here are obviously renting places. I am nowhere near an English speaking person and have little to no handle on the language yet so I turn here for advice. To sum it up - Are there restrictions on where I can live and register with the police? Thank you in advance for any help

Your gf needs to go to the local ward police and register you. She will need your passport to put you in the house book.

Hi. Did you find out what to do. I am in the exact same situation.
Please give me some advise if you can
Thanks

Bholinath :

Hi. Did you find out what to do. I am in the exact same situation.
Please give me some advise if you can
Thanks

Get the owner of the premises to register you.

Yes. That would be ideal and according to the law.
Before we moved in, the owner said he would register me. Now we realise he just wants our money and he will not register me. (Due to taxes on the building if he allows foreigners to stay).
The contract is in my gf name. Technically i don't have an address here in Vietnam.
This will be a problem for me later on when i need official paperwork.im thinking if booking a cheap dorm room.... So that i have proof of address for the upcoming paperwork and  formalities for our future wedding.

*Any advice on getting married here in hanoi would be welcome too! Can anyone recommend a good lawyer?

Thanks

The police can remove you from the premises, I would find another place to live. In saying that, I lived in a place for a year before we eventually got registered.

Getting married is quite easy these days, here is a recent thread about it.

https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=841072

Thanks for the heads up.

"You should pay attention to the rules of residence for foreigners under Vietnamese law on entrustment, exit, transit and residence of foreigners in Vietnam Law entruy, exit, transit, and residence of foreignes in Viet Nam

In Article 33. Declaration of temporary residence Law entruy, exit, transit, and residence of foreignes in Viet Nam 2014
1. Any foreigner that temporary resides in Vietnam must, via the manager of the lodging establishment, declare his/her temporary residence at the local police authority.
2. The manager of the lodging establishment shall complete the declaration form and submit it to the local police authority within 12 hours (or within 24 hours if the administrative division is in a remote area) since the foreigner arrives at the lodging establishment.
3. Lodging establishments that are hotels must have Internet access or connect to the computer network of the immigration authority affiliated to the provincial police authority to transmit foreigners’ declarations of temporary residence. Other lodging establishments that have Internet access may directly send the foreigners’ declarations of temporary residence to the email address of the immigration authority affiliated to the provincial police authority.
4. Any foreigner that changes his temporary residence or resides at a place other than that written in the temporary residence card must submit a declaration of temporary residence as prescribed in Clause 1 of this Article."

letiendat :

"You should pay attention to the rules of residence for foreigners under Vietnamese law on entrustment, exit, transit and residence of foreigners in Vietnam Law entruy, exit, transit, and residence of foreignes in Viet Nam

In Article 33. Declaration of temporary residence Law entruy, exit, transit, and residence of foreignes in Viet Nam 2014
1. Any foreigner that temporary resides in Vietnam must, via the manager of the lodging establishment, declare his/her temporary residence at the local police authority.
2. The manager of the lodging establishment shall complete the declaration form and submit it to the local police authority within 12 hours (or within 24 hours if the administrative division is in a remote area) since the foreigner arrives at the lodging establishment.
3. Lodging establishments that are hotels must have Internet access or connect to the computer network of the immigration authority affiliated to the provincial police authority to transmit foreigners’ declarations of temporary residence. Other lodging establishments that have Internet access may directly send the foreigners’ declarations of temporary residence to the email address of the immigration authority affiliated to the provincial police authority.
4. Any foreigner that changes his temporary residence or resides at a place other than that written in the temporary residence card must submit a declaration of temporary residence as prescribed in Clause 1 of this Article."

Its up to the owner of the property to register you, we can't just walk in and register ourselves.

Greatly appreciated. It was never my intention to be in this situation. I think i need to find another place to live, as the landlord is refusing to register me.
Thanks for your help

Bholinath :

Greatly appreciated. It was never my intention to be in this situation. I think i need to find another place to live, as the landlord is refusing to register me.
Thanks for your help

If they register you, they have to pay the cops and declare it for tax purposes. Best to move, always get in writing that they will register you.

If he is going to move should he turn in the landlord for not registering him first just to get him in trouble with the police?  I would totally do that since the landlord agreed to do it, I moved in and now have to trouble myself with moving again.

This is not an option if his GF is going to continue to stay there but I suspect she would move as well so they don't have to pay two rents.  Or if it would interfere with getting a deposit back.

SteinNebraska :

If he is going to move should he turn in the landlord for not registering him first just to get him in trouble with the police?  I would totally do that since the landlord agreed to do it, I moved in and now have to trouble myself with moving again.

This is not an option if his GF is going to continue to stay there but I suspect she would move as well so they don't have to pay two rents.  Or if it would interfere with getting a deposit back.

If the owner says they wont return the deposit, I usually remind them about the tax department, they always pay up.

It's the owner's responsibility.
If this were me, i would have my GF go to police station to clarify, but I would not worry about it.
i rented two different places over two years and never thought about it since it was not my responsibility.
Much of the time, I think there are communication problems and people jump to conclusions.
From what the OP wrote, it's not 100% clear to me that the owner really said he wasn't going to register him. The OP may think that, but tell me why the Vietnamese owner would say it??
More likely is that the Viet owner just said he took care of it and didn't have to give his tenant anything.

In any case don't worry about it.

letiendat :

4. Any foreigner that changes his temporary residence or resides at a place other than that written in the temporary residence card must submit a declaration of temporary residence as prescribed in Clause 1 of this Article.

Huh? Who does that?
Anyway this is bogus. There isn't even place for an address on a TRC.

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