Disability

That's a little vague, Fireymom.

What are we talkin' here -- SSDI, for which you already qualified in North America?

Surely it's not about filling out a form and expecting IESS (Ecuador Social Security) to give you monthly income.

If it's SSDI, you might want to contact the Embassy in Quito.  Google:  u.s. embassy quito ecuador ....

Or contact Social Security Administration.  Their website is www.ssa.gov ....

cccmedia

No not for income !
We were told that since my husband received disability in the states that if he signs up here, his visa is at no charge.
I just found out that under th new law that just changed you need your cedula or your visa to sign up on disability, but then my question is what good is it to sign up then ?
No worries, thank you for your fast reply.

Up to now, the Expats on this site have been attempting, with extremely limited success, to understand the new law and how it will be applied.

Given the changing visa situation in Ecuador and the apparent complexity of your family's situation, you're a prime candidate to use a visa facilitator or immigration attorney to navigate your way through the changing maze.

If you don't want to pay for professional assistance, that's your privilege.  However, y'all may end up playing Beat the Clock if you try to navigate the visa system on your own amid current realities (whatever they are).   Thinking you'll get personalized, timely, reliable guidance for your visa situation on an Expat forum is pure optimism.

cccmedia

I have help already with the changing laws I just thought I would ask a simple question.
Thank you

The latest from my Quito attorney (last Friday) is that it's going to be up to three more months before the Ecuadorian government issues the new migración rules based on the new law.

Keep in mind that a new Administration will be coming in after the April runoff election .. and may want to tinker with the rules that are being developed.

Also keep in mind that when the government says three months, it could be five or six.

So the answers may not be as simple as Firey was thinking.

cccmedia

Nothing is simple here cause laws change daily, weekly, and never announced !

cccmedia wrote:

The latest from my Quito attorney (last Friday) is that it's going to be up to three more months before the Ecuadorian government issues the new migración rules based on the new law.

Keep in mind that a new Administration will be coming in after the April runoff election .. and may want to tinker with the rules that are being developed.

Also keep in mind that when the government says three months, it could be five or six.

So the answers may not be as simple as Firey was thinking.

cccmedia

That would be the maximum according to the ley de movilidad. The president has 120 days from February 6th to issue the "reglamento", which should contain the details of the new provisions. From what I was told last week, this should be within the next few weeks. Whether or not that is true is another story.....

However, since the ley de movilidad was one of the hallmark pieces of legislature for Correa and the AP, it seems likely they will try to push the reglamento through before next month's elections.

Disability in Ecuador is defined on the clinic level in Ecuador. In other words, while being considered disabled under Social Security or Veterans Administration criteria may be probative, an actual evaluation must be performed in Ecuador by specialists to whom you are referred following evaluation at the basic clinical level.

You must be in Ecuador under some form of visa to be able to make those visits in a timely manner for evaluation.

Andrew242 wrote:

cccmedia wrote:

The latest from my Quito attorney (last Friday) is that it's going to be up to three more months before the Ecuadorian government issues the new migración rules based on the new law.

The president has 120 days from February 6th to issue the "reglamento", which should contain the details of the new provisions...

Since the ley de movilidad was one of the hallmark pieces of legislature for Correa and the AP, it seems likely they will try to push the reglamento through before next month's elections.

There's way too much wiggle room here. 

First, the election is much more important to the players than getting the reglamento done early.

Second, the new president takes office in April after the election.  If he considers he has 120 days from when his term starts in order to properly issue the reglamento .. who's gonna tell him different? 

Do you think somebody with legal standing is going to sue the new presidente because his brand-new Administration ends up being technically two months "late" in issuing the reglamento?  Forget it!

Anybody who's holding his breath on this one is going to run out of air.

Normally, about 90 percent of Expats considering a visa move into Ecuador need to hire an attorney or visa specialist.  I'd bump that up to 99 percent for the rest of this year.

cccmedia

First, the election is much more important to the players than getting the reglamento done early. Second, the new president takes office in April after the election.  If he considers he has 120 days from when his term starts in order to properly issue the reglamento .. who's gonna tell him different?

Sure, the election is important and Correa could leave the reglamento for his succesor. However, considering the importance of the Ley de Movilidad for Correa and the AP, along with their desire to push it through before last month's elections, it's doubtful that he would. Even more so given the fact the odds are against Moreno winning next month's runoff election.

Do you think somebody with legal standing is going to sue the new presidente because his brand-new Administration ends up being technically two months "late" in issuing the reglamento?  Forget it!

Highly doubtful that anyone is going to sue the government for not complying with it's own procedures. If you could, the government would be bankrupt within a few days.

The Ley de Movilidad simply states "El  Presidente  de  la  República  expedirá  en
ciento veinte días el Reglamento de la presente Ley". The 120 days would begin from February 6th, the date the law published in the Registro Official. In this regard, it could be Correa or his successor. Other then the fact they (the ministers/ministries involved) are working on the reglamento, there is little information beyond that.

Normally, about 90 percent of Expats considering a visa move into Ecuador need to hire an attorney or visa specialist.  I'd bump that up to 99 percent for the rest of this year.

Maybe so, although for the time being most attorneys/visa specialists have the same information that can be found doing a google search.

The only thing most of us can do now is wait and hope for the best.

Maneuvering around the expat forum:
Apologize in advance for my ineptitude of maneuvering around expats forum. Joined a month ago and just received a few days ago a  reply on questions [rents & hotels in Vilc.] from sage mind & cannot locate the email again. It was such a kind and informative response, I was anxious to immediately reply and thank before fully digesting all the info. Of course, I did not print it. I searched my yahoo email a few days later but no luck.