Brazil Rousseff: Impeachment process opens against president

Will they get her

Brazil Rousseff: Impeachment process opens against president

from the BBC

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-34990455

Will they get her? Hard to tell right now, given that from the time the petition for the impeachment of Fernando Collor de Melo was accepted until he resigned from office took 7 month.

Also the PT has stated that they will petition the Federal Supreme Court to block the impeachment process, and we should all remember that now the majority of the Ministers on the STF are PT appointees. If you honestly believe that the executive branch and the judiciary are separated in this country then I have some prime real estate in Florida and a few bridges spread around the USA that I'd love to sell you.

Cheers,
James
expat.com Experts Team

I see it  was kickbacked and the renewal process is open for impeachment. Just chiming in.

Hey Pete check this out: The Lula Offer!
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/brazi … WB2V5?il=0

:lol: its politics! but not as we know it

I think even the offer of a Ministry within the government would be off the table now that he has been formally charged. Certainly now, if it were to happen and not be held to be unconstitutional (and possibly a crime), it would cause such an uproar within government itself that somebody would go the the Electoral Supreme Court (Tribunal Superior Eleitoral - TSE) and demand immediate revocation of Dilma's mandate, maybe even Temer's too.

Cheers,
James
expat.com Experts Team

I see it's all hotting up now, I did say it will all end in tears!

Yes it is like a Sauna Day in Belem you can see the steam rising off the streets, what a royal mess this is going to be as I wait for the curtain call and the best actor/ actress awards to go to ?????.

Do you think, you learn, corruption in school or in work experience I wonder, do you think, they all got a degrees in it.

I am not sure if one earns a bachelor's degree or a master's degree or was it at recess in the school yard or maybe over coffee or tea as for me I learned it in kindergarten./lol
maybe jail will earn them a law degree! I am curious for I see a pardon in the wings for all.

Hey Pete:

Let the sideshow begin
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/D … -0028.html

keep your friend close and your enemies closer,,,,,,,,,, come's to mind

Brings up a new term of mind "What a Hot Me$$"!  And the"Band continued to play as the Titanic"???! Have a good day. Mr.Pete

http://s2.glbimg.com/m_80LgEQYQklncr5iFAutBfNfQ4=/620x465/s.glbimg.com/jo/g1/f/original/2015/08/16/brazil-rousseff-_paulo_whitaker_reuters_3.jpg
Today millions of Brazilians took to the streets all over the country to protest against the current government and call for the impeachment of President Dilma Rousseff.

In São Paulo alone it is estimated that 1.4 million people participated in the protest rally. Without a doubt this has been the largest public demonstration in the history of this nation. I can't understand how this woman still doesn't get the message and step down.

Cheers,
James
expat.com Experts Team

she wont get the massage, until there is more people protesting "than", the people, that voted her in to power

You're in Rio, James how was that?

I can't even imagine a protest by more than a million people in the streets.

Will wonders never cease for now the Military is being asked to help! Just information!
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/B … -0021.html
let the game continue,stand by for more excitement, it is warming up!

Alascana wrote:

Will wonders never cease for now the Military is being asked to help! Just information!
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/B … -0021.html
let the game continue,stand by for more excitement, it is warming up!


This is nothing at all new...  they've been asking for military intervention since she was re-elected.

Cheers,
James
expat.com Experts Team

gardener1 wrote:

You're in Rio, James how was that?

I can't even imagine a protest by more than a million people in the streets.


Fortunately I live in Macaé, about 4 hours drive north of Rio. I'm so glad for that because even on a Sunday it would certainly cause absolute chaos in a city. More than a million in Rio, 1.4 million in São Paulo... the real miracle is all of it non-violent, not at all like the protests a few years ago over the raise of bus fare and World Cup.

Cheers,
James
expat.com Experts Team

As we continue the saga.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ … d-protests
the excitement is getting good! I hope the economy will improve for all.

I see "the rats are getting ready to leave the sinking ship" :sosad:

Will the Captain remain or Walk the Plank, it's all about timing and I gue$$ time has run out. To bad they forgot to bring a mouser aboard. Blame the Ensign! / lol

Is there hope....can Brazil be saved?

It can, but the cure may be even worse than the disease.

Brasil needs a Hero ! 3.5-6 million protest.
http://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/r … overnment/
it can only get better, for hope and change are good!
and now for a new item of interest !  I wonder who appointed the Judge?

http://www.globalpost.com/article/67460 … -lula-case
Enjoy the day.

Well people,, here starts the wriggling, lets hope it don't work out the way they want to
From the BBC
  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-35808706

Man the Lifeboats and stand by for more antics! We ain't seen nothing yet!/ kkkk
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/B … -0002.html
I wish us all a good journey and put on a life vest to prevent drowning.

http://imguol.com/c/noticias/0c/2015/12/04/4dez2015---linha-sucessoria-da-presidencia-dilma-temer-cunha-renan-e-lewandowski-1449236484518_615x300.png

Just to make it clear what happens if and when President Dilma Rousseff is impeached the photo above is the line of Presidential Succession defined by the Federal Constitution of 1988.

From left to right, President Dilma Rousseff (PT), Vice President Michel Temer (PMDB), President of the House of Representatives Eduardo Cunha (PMDB), President of the Senate Renan Calheiros (PMDB), President of the Federal Supreme Court Ricardo Lewandowski (appointed by Lula).

In the event of impeachment of the President everybody moves up one slot. Temer becomes President, Cunha Vice President, Calheiros President of the House of Representatives and Lewandowski President of the Senate. So now let's take a close look at all of them. Michel Temer is currently being investigated and also being considered jointly with Rousseff for revocation of their mandates by the Electoral Supreme Court (Tribunal Superior Eleitoral - TSE) for irregularities in the last election. Cunha is under investigation and subject to current process of revocation of his mandate. Calheiros had previously had his mandate revoked and later reinstated, currently under investigation for irregularities. Lewandowski has consistently acted more like one of the defense lawyers for the PT than he ever has as a Minister of the Federal Supreme Court and there is absolutely no doubt where his loyalties lie.

The only real solution for the desparate problems this country is in would be in the case that the TSE actually revokes the mandate of both Rousseff and Temer before the end of this year. Since that would fall within the first 2 years of the mandate, according to the Constitution there must be a new Federal election.

Under any other circumstances just having the top three Executive offices, while it might produce temporary stability, occupied by individuals who are themselves under investigation and subject to removal from office would throw this country into utter chaos even greater than it is facing right now. Perish the thought!!!

The roller coaster cars are almost all loaded and ready to roll, and it's a ride that I don't want to be on. I'm betting that none of you guys do either, it ain't gonna be pretty.

Cheers,
James
expat.com Experts Team

New Shot across the Bow, and the hits keep on coming!
http://www.globalpost.com/article/67465 … government
Wowzer! and Yikes Woman Overboard!

Amazing how things keep going, someone deserves a medal for bravery! Man the torpedoes! 
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/B … -0009.html

This is the beginning of the end for all of them, Dilma, Lula, Cunha, Calheiros, and the whole crew. Heads are going to roll in Brasília and there aren't going to be enough baskets to catch them all.

Today, in almost unanimity the commission to vote on impeachment of Dilma was elected. At 7pm today (Thursday) the House of Representatives voted 433 in favor and 1 against on the members who will compose the commission that will decide whether or not Dilma will be impeached.

Given the public outcry over her clear attempt to interfere with this country's judiciary, by appointing Lula to a Ministry I'm convinced her impeachment is a done deal. That said, I'm equally convinced that she'll make the traditionally Brazilian eleventh hour decision to step down, rather than be impeached and lose all of her political rights, once impeachment becomes iminent.

She clearly violated Art. 85, II of the Constitution in that appointment of Lula was done with the sole purpose of attempting to provide him with a priviledged court (STF) and shield him from the investigations of Lava Jato. I see absolutely no way that she can avoid the charges for the Crime of Responsibility.

Even if Lula's appointment stands, which I highly doubt it will, the Federal Supreme Court would reveal itself to be simply a puppet of the PT government, if they reversed their previous decision in a parallel case of Desvio de Finalidade.

The road ahead is going to be full of bumps and potholes, I'm not sure that any of those on the bus are going to get out alive.

Cheers,
James
expat.com Experts Team

would you like to lay money on it

from the BBC and what some of the Brazilians are saying
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-35837876
enjoy

Wow you can't make this up. Hopefully things will change as we approach the Olympics!
http://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/r … in-brazil/
Enjoy the read for those who have interest.
enjoy the day.

To believe that the influential fiqures agitating for Dilma Roussef's impeachment (i.e Fast Eddie Cunha) are motivated by an authentic anti-corruption crusade requires extreme naivete or willful ignorance...... Take everything that happens here with a grain of salt.

It's like being a Duck, the water looks placid yet the feet are working overtime to stay a float and as one surfaces all the water rolls of its back.

Nothing in Brazil ever has anything to do with ethics, here it's all about saving your own hide. They'll start eathing each other alive any day now. Every one of them will be pointing fingers and naming names trying to swing a deal to save themselves. As I said, heads are soon going to roll and there aren't going to be enough baskets in Brasília to catch them all. Even the Supreme Court dominated with PT apointees, can't help them now or they'll all go down with the ship too.

Cheers,
James
expat.com Experts Team

It has begun as the fodder flys, I need a life preserver, this is getting deep. I wonder where it will all end up. Just reading the news and wow for those who are interested !

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … sseff.html

if one has time to read.
have a good day

It's not looking to good, some people are paying a lot of attention, this is a pretty good read on the Senate sentiments.


http://mobile.reuters.com/article/brazi … WM0XK?il=0

If you have time to read, have a good day, for some are not enjoying any day!

Hopefully this will play it self out as for now it look like it's getting hotter by the day.
just fyi, nice read for those who may have the time!

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/internacio … pace.shtml
it's all most a snails pace. Have a good day