Phu Quoc Ridgeback and EU/EEA

Hi,

Either I`m clueless or there really isn`t a search button here. And the topics I seem to find mostly contain info on bringing dogs in to Vietnam or to the US. I`ve always gotten good reasonable replies on here so I try again :)

I`m married to a Vietnamese girl and we`re moving to Norway next summer. I want to bring with me a Phu Quoc Ridgeback and wonder where in HCM I can find a pure bred one. I`ve read there are special breeders in HCM.

According to rules in Norway the dog has to have a rabies vaccine 3-4 months before entering the country. And it also needs a vaccine against "Echinococcus multilocularis" a sort of worm disease, 120-24 hours prior to entering Norway.

Before vaccines it needs to be registered and chip marked with a vet certificate, or doggy passport if you like. And this "passport" needs registration numbers and vaccine controls.
This needs to be done at an official vet.

The registration looks like this: http://www.mattilsynet.no/dyr_og_dyreho … 6rre%20dyr

Does anyone have any good tips for me? Or have done any of this before? Reading some of the posts some must have the answers. And what was the total cost?

We have one Phu Quoc now, but my mother-in-law will keep this one. Yet, this is a very nice dog and I want to bring one with me, it also helps that they are very rare and the mini-hipster in me wants to be special. It will also be a very nice companion when I get back into the Norwegian fauna.
But if the process is too grueling and the costs are too steep I might just get a different one back home. I just need to ask around and do some research first.

Thank you for all answers in advance,

David

Oh, I forgot to mention that it also needs a blood test to see if the vaccination against rabies actually worked.

But I also seconds after the first post came across info that said the rabies vaccination needs to be done 21 days prior to entering Norway.

I`ve been in contact with Norwegian vets to see what they say, but as it is Saturday night it might take a while for an answer :P

Dave

https://www.expat.com/forum/219-23-movi … -pets.html

There is a thread "how can I bring my dog home", might be useful

I might be mistaken, but I`m pretty sure that`s the forum I posted in ;)

Hello, i'd recommend that you do more research on the ridgeback. Pure bred is notoriously hard to take care of, even within Vietnam. Many of them fall sick in "foreign" environment.

A Phu Quoc Ridgeback is nowhere yet really classified. It is still a bread coming in various shapes, sizes and color patterns. You gonna find plenty here in Vietnam.

I have myself a one, now 5 month old, a black boy.
They should monotone colored either black or brown and the thong must match somehow the eye color and the eye color again the felt color.

I have seen almost in calf size, others in size  of Sheppard and most much smaller. My one seems to be one of the smaller once and growing very slowly, if at all. However, they need to have the duck feet with the swimming skin between their fingers and are commonly without any smell and by rumor, they sit always on your feet (yep, it's true, but other dogs do the same) as well their ridge in sword shape, covering alt least 60% of their back length.
They also start "working" at young age (~4-month), where other breeds still play baby.

You can expect to pay anything from VND 1,5 up to 60-70 million on asking prices.
Everything patched is lower in price as well brown is lower priced as black.
Brown, white patched, lower end.
Black, white patched bit higher.
Brown monoton - even higher,
Black monoton even more

Brown ornamental pattern (shades of brown) VND 20-70 Million and black  ornamental patterned ( black, grey, brown) on the high end

There are plenty on offer, especially in Saigon. If you go north in Vietnam, you gonna find less choice and higher prices.

However, it's a very fine dog, protective to aggressive, a bit lazy and attached (at least for my one).

hehe, we already have one Phu Quoc now, although can not be entirely sure if it`s 100%.
All dogs are the same (if you now how to handle dogs of course, and I grew up with them). They need training, socialising, and energy output. Our current dog is friendly, smart, and excellent with small children, and he roams around freely most of the day and listens to what I say.

Phu Quoc Ridgeback is a very special dog, so that in comes in various shapes and sizes just tells me that most of these dogs are not Phu Quoc Ridgeback. Perhaps they have been bred with one once. What makes the ridgeback a Ridgeback is the pattern of his fur on its back, and yes, dark, "camoflaged" Phu Quocs I would imagine are more expensive as these dogs are hunting dogs. Also excellent family dogs.

Btw: All dog breeds when they are puppies and play, they are actually training for their instinctive purpose just like any other mammal.


All I`m asking is about veterinarian purposes. I already have a Phu Quoc and although I`m not an expert, I`m very confident and skilled with dogs, even unruly ones. (I grew up with labs and huskies. The latter especially needs energy output). All this in my own opinion of course.   

We`re going to Saigon in about a month or so to start with paperwork for my wife and child. I will also spend this time doing some reckon and more research. Like I said in my first post, if this will cost too much on my effort and on my wallet I will skip it, but I want to see check out the opportunities first before I hopefully not give up.

Thanks

I apologize since this will come across as lecturing you. But I think bringing a dog home is a lot more than just paperwork issue. Of course people do it all the time; they see a breed they like and want one to be part of their family. But whenever I see a husky in the crowded city of Saigon, I cringe. Please think of all the adjustment that your ridgeback will have to cope with going from a Phu Quoc/Vietnam environment/climate to Norway.

I disagree with you, as all types of dogs from hotter climates and no undercoat thrive here. But that is a discussion I don`t want to get into now. I`m just seeking some helpful tips and advice for vets and whatnot. :)

Ripfoily,


Pls. read my reply to Daisy,  "How can I bring my dog Home" it is full of information you can use, then you consult your embassy or laws in your country regarding importation of pets.

I got phone nos. in it that will be of good use, for those are people working in the Department of Animal Health in HCM ( they are the one resposible in exportation of pets)

FYI when I visit their Office there are some people in there working for different Vets. around HCM, just like me applying for the Health Certificate from which they charge 10x  or more (500,000  to a million or more) the fee I paid (79,000 vnd for my 2 dogs, but if its just one dog they ask for 50,000 vnd) with a government receipt.

Usually Vets will charge you 400$ per dog for the exportation requirement which are mostly lies.   

Friendly unsolicited advice, forget getting a dog here, take one from a animal shelter or pound in your country, this is simply because it will be very stressing and expensive if you buy a puppy of your breed choice here, fell in-love with it then get overly stress of the idea of living or taking him with you. especially the procedure to undergo just to take him with you, there are so many nice dogs, complete with all the vaccines waiting in a pound or shelter somewhere, you can even choose a breed from.  This is just a friendly advice of a person who have been in that situation.  :)

Dont know if you've found more info to ship your VN ridgeback to Norway yet. But it's not difficult as it sounds. I've brought my dog from Cambodia to the Netherlands, and I've done lots of research to bring my future VNese ridgeback from VN to the Netherlands as well, which I think have almost the same rule as Norway. I cant imagine to leave my dog behind. All you need to do is to plan in advanve 4-5 months before you can bring your dog with you:

1) Find a accredited vets clinic in HCM (should not be too difficult), I've founds some in Hanoi, I could imagine HCM is easier to find, as there are more expats/foreigners living there. once you tell them your wish, all steps will follow

2) get your dog vaccinated for rabbies and some others comon diseases. get the dog chipped. As I remember correctly, 1 month after the 1st rabbies shot, you need to bring your dog back to the vets for the 2nd rabbies booster shot. the vets will take the dog's blood sample. as the vets is accredited, it should have connections with some labs in Europe (check with the Norwegian embassy in Vietnam, normally they have some representatives from the ministry of agriculture in the embassy to tell you which labs the blood sample should be sent to). The vets clinic will send the blood sample to the connected lab in Europe (in my case, the sample was sent to the lab in Ireland), after 2-3 months, the vets clinic in Vn will recieve the result. and 1 month after you can techincally bring your dog to Europe (check with the norwegian embassy for further specific requirement by the norwegian ministry of agricultures, it can vary a little btw european countries)

3) next step is to get the paper from the Vnese government to be able to export the dog (to bring the dog out of the country). this will cause more headache, but often the vets clinics will know and can get those on your behalf. a few years back. the process costed around 10-20 mil VN dong. plus the ticket for the dog.

4) another general check up and some more shots or deworm 1-3 days before departure, get the approved crate for air travels and off you go

!!!attention, if you need to transit, then you need to comply with the rule of the transit country(ies) as well
so in my case, i found the direct flight to one of the country in Europe (schengen)' then things will get much easier. in my case, I was flying airfrance, so actually direct from HCM city to Paris (or they also have direct flight to Frankfurt if i'm not mistaken), and then the connection flight from Paris to Amsterdam. but remember not to fly in the winter time because they dont carry animals in the baggage in the winter (too cold to make sure the pet will survive the flight). check the website or talk directly to the agent who sell you the ticket to know the exact time to fly. with airfrance the extra ticket for the dog was not expensive, i need to pay 200 extra for oversized luggage only. other airlines are more expensive


***) once you bring the dog to norway, 1 thing to remember and to take utmost care of is that you bring a tropical dog to the almost artic climate in the winter, so make sure you keep your dog warm. i have the whole collection of Hurta clothes for my dogs and it really helps. dont get me wrong, i'm no fashion freek especially for dog, but the functioning of it that i care. my dog in the beginning got diarrhea and the vets couldnt find out why, all checked (diet, test etc), problems got worst, Till the day i thought it might be because of the cold, since I dress him warmed and keep him from the cold rain. he's one happy healthy dog. and do not keep your dog outside, escepecially in the winter no matter how many clothes you put on him/her. and once you arrive, you'll need to bring your dog to the vets in norway to check up, get a new passport and to register.

hope to provide you some answers though seems a bit late... and hope you succeed with many happy years with your very special breed.
good luck

Hallo,

I read on a forum that you may import a Phu Quoc Ridgeback to Netherland.
Do you have a Phu Quoc Ridgeback in Netherland?

I would like to have a Phu Quoc dog but it is difficult to find in Holland.

Gr, Quy