Spouse of a EU citizen moving to Dublin

@Jim

I would love to hear from you if you have managed to get any further concrete answers to your questions. I am in I guess a similar situation.

I acquired British Citizenship years ago. Have never renounced it and currently still hold a British Passport, although I have dual citizenship (South African as well), and am currently living back in South Africa. My husband is a South African citizen and South African Passport holder.

We are looking to buy a self sufficient small holding in Ireland and move over with our three "children" (dogs), for similar reasons to you. In essence I will work the land and as such will not hold a concrete "job" in the sense of the word, and my husband will continue working for his current company - he does contract work - 6 weeks on 6 weeks off and the 6 weeks on could be anywhere in Africa / The Middle East / and occasionally Asia. That means he will only join me for 6 weeks every six weeks ...

So basically my question would be if we buy a place and I move over and he gains right to remain as my spouse - would that give him right to leave and enter as per his job requirements? Chances are he will always have to fly to and from South Africa has he has to do check out and check in calls before and after each tour. Man this is ALL SO DAMN COMPLICATED!

Again any help from anyone in the know how would be greatly appreciated.

if you move to ireland you will need to have a job/if you are coming to run your own business you probably need to have a certain amount of cash, to proof you can sustain yourseld, the business, family etc. your husband needs an eu residency card wich he willhave to apply for an mostly depends on your status in the country not the other way around. he will have to wait roughly 6 months like everybody normally does. if he leaves the country he will still get a 3 month re-entry stamp but thats all he will get untill he gets the temporary residence card. it could get tricky with him being in an out of the country and in south africa they will require a proof in his passport or via a residency card everytime he returns to ireland. if he does not have proof he could be denied boarding a flight to return to ireland. As i have experienced, only i had my residency card at hand thankfully. A colleague of mine went to south africa for a few months but allowed her work permit (2 yearly) to expire, when she arrived to the airport she was denied boarding and subsequently never returned to ireland and she lost all the money spent on that flight.so you might have to do a lot of homework before you pack up and leave. you might have to come here to ireland and ask all these questions in person for the best advice.hope all goes well for you.

Hi everyone I am married to an British woman who is an eu citizen she is moving to dublin can I join her imediately or is there a waiting period.
kind regards

Thanks for the answer that is predominantly my concern the fact he will not be in Ireland permanently form the offset and entering and leaving continuously may make things tricky - the bit about going and asking the question there in person is probably the way to go... to ensure we do everything by the book.

Once again thank you for taking the time to reply - do appreciate it ;-)

Happy Easter
Lauren

Hi sir I am just curious I first saw your story last year 2014,how have things progressed on your side are you fine and settled in ireland

Hopefully not hi-jacking too old a thread...I am a South African married to a German wanting to move to Ireland for a year or two.
I was told by a migration specialist here in South Africa to go directly to the Irish High Commission/Consulate in Cape Town and apply for an EEA Family Visa. I was also told to tell them my husband is a German citizen and that I want to apply for an EEA Family Visa to enable me to settle in the Republic of Ireland with my EU husband.
Has anyone had any success through this process?

Many thanks,

Joy

Your husband also residing and working in south africa? Why ireland ,  why not germany if he is a german citizen.

He has dual citizenship (German and South African) We have decided we would prefer to live in Ireland initially. We both currently reside in South Africa.

Right. For coming live in ireland your husband has to come here and start doing work and then ge can apply for you spouse visa. Or you can go irish embassy in s.africa with ur husband and apply for irish visit visa. When you both will arrive here your husband will find job and apply for your spouse visa while you staying here with him.

Because your husband is german national, so if you both decide to move in germany then you should go german embassy in s.africa and you can directly apply for spouse visa from there.

Thanks so much Mudassir, appreciate you sharing the info with me. In that case it is most likely that I will apply for the residence visa of an EU spouse once in Ireland ( South Africans get 90 days visa free in Rep of Ireland). I am aware that I'd lose the cost of my flight return ticket though as that is necessary to have when entering Ireland. It is a bit of a roundabout way of applying for a residence card but so far this seems like the best method. If only there were a more universal EU spousal visa one could apply for in one's home country, it would be a lot simpler 

Yes you nearly there. If u would like to move in germany you can apply spouse visa from your country. If you want to move ireland. Just come here with your husband. Your husband need to find job in ireland or can do his own business and after that he can apply for your spouse visa in irish immigration department while you will be living with him. And if you want to get expert help and would like someone else to do all these things for you. You can get.

I'm in an identical situation to you Joy. Also can't see any clear direction on this. Married to an EU citizen (Austria) and relocating to Dublin early next year. It seems like once there you can apply for a spousal EU visa. Also you can apply for a re-entry visa which allows you to come back and forth into the country. I really wanted to have this sorted out before we left though. Do you have any further clarification on this matter? Also is there a consulate in Cape Town? Can only find one in Pretoria. This website http://www.inis.gov.ie has all the immigration information, but it never seems to cover exactly our scenario.

Look dear its not about non EU spouse. Its all about EU spouse. Remember non Eu spouse will get residency when your EU spouse come in ireland and start his permanent residency in ireland. So how your EU spouse be a permanent resident in ireland, (1) do job (2) do business or (3) full time student.  Once your EU spouse adopt any of these roles,  aftet that EU soouse will go immigration office and submit the proof of job,  business or college and proof of address and will request that because he or she living in ireland permanently now so grant non EU spouse also resident visa. This whole proceedure could be done by EU spouse come ireland alone and do these things or even non EU spouse travel on visit visa with EU spouse and complete the proceedure.

Thanks. That clears it up. My spouse, who is the EU citizen, already has a job in Ireland (but working remotely now). So it sounds simple enough to fix this once we are there.

Hi MadHorse

Sorry for delayed reply.

I have had no further clarification on this matter...I will travel with my husband in February and once there apply for the Stamp4EUFAM Residence Card. It seems to be fairly straightforward. The only thing I am concerned about is my flight- as a South African citizen I should have a return ticket but I am wondering if I would be allowed in on a one way ticket as an EU spouse. I am emailing the consulate today to see if they have an answer for me.

And yes there is an Irish Embassy in Cape Town apparently...
Cape Town Office
Embassy of Ireland
19th Floor, LG Building
1 Thibault Square
Long Street
Cape Town
South Africa

Tel: +27 21 419 0636 / +27 21 419 0637
Fax: +27 21 419 0639

Let me know if you find out anything new!

Regards

Hi am from Gambia but living in EU for 4 years now and me and my wife want to move to lreland and i don know if am there if I can work

Everything you mentioned so far is true and correct. Should you start the process from Spain...?. It would be ideal but you will run into the same problems I.e no reply etc. What I would suggest but you can do your homework is that you come over as a visitor. A very expensive option but the best way to hear it directly from immigration in Dublin. They don't like the phone and they don't give you exact advise via email. If matters are still as they were 10 yrs ago , yes she needs to either have a job/. Or a load of cash to prove you are not going to ride on the social welfare and it's all about the eu citizen not the family members. You will have to get that eufam 4 stamp in order to get a job and yes 6 months it can take. Most companies won't even look at your application if you are non- Eu. It will also be a job that they are not able to fill by anybody of Irish or European. That's another set of issues but she needs to get a job. If she comes as a student you still have to wait for that eufam 4 stamp. Either way you will need cash to keep the family. I hope it answers your questions.

Hi Jim, I am in a similar situation as the one that you mention above. Please advise if you have now completed your move? If so, was your wife able to work immidiately?

Hi if we move to Ireland is it difficult to find a job immediately , for both of us and both of us need to work even with youn children 1 of them is 3 yrs .thanks

Hello,

I searched for some clarity on the process.

I am an EU citizen and I was offered to transfer with my current employer in Dublin.
I am married with a non EU citizen who is leaving with me in Romania at this moment.

1. What is the procedure for him to join me in the same time?
2. EU treaty rights?



Regards,

Adela

Yes, EU Treaty rights. You can come in and request a Stamp4 visa. It can take up to a year for them to agree, and in all that time the EU citizen must be employed and paying tax. As soon as that situation changes, the residence will be revoked. Bottom line is this, if you are coming in as the EU citizen, you need to remain employed at all times and things will be just fine. (the employment status of the spouse is immaterial, unless he gets his own work visa) You will need to go through this process every year. They have become very strict and are working to rule. Which means everything takes an age.