Has anyone gone through the simplified naturalization precedure?

So...how would you write in Hungarian (short and simple) a request to the Embassy where you submitted your simplified naturalization papers and had your "language test" to give you a status update?

I was told I would hear latest last November.  We are now in February.
I want to be polite and brief. 
"Can you please tell me the status of my simplified naturalization status as well as my reference number for future communications?"
Köszönöm szépen!

Hello everyone,

Just to inform you that the post #281 of Blonder has been added to this thread (posted on the wrong thread).

If you could help..

Thanks,
Bhavna

Update from Embassy.

7 months since my second application the kind lady at the Embassy where I submitted my application sent me an email stating that she checked with Budapest and my application is still pending.
Hope this helps others re time frames.      I have hope.  Change of attitude to more "come what may" -- when I do get it I would love to take Marilyn, Magyarok, zif and that cool "dude" with the black cowboy hat.   

Just name the time and place and we will party until they deport the lot of us!!
Hope it comes through for you soon. thanks for the update.

Wow!  I just received some exciting news by email!  After 3 years of studying, praying and hard work and more praying, I finally got my acceptance email for simplified naturalization!  I am so excited!  Just have to do the oath now and then I become a citizen.  I would be so happy to do this with many people around (not just little ol me) - does anyone know where to find the page that states where in the world the large oath ceremonies are happening?  Perhaps in Budapest?  You can choose only once place and not make a second change. 
"Ezúton örömmel értesítem, hogy Magyarország Köztársasági Elnöke aláírta az Ön honosítási kérelmét.

A honosítási okirat illetve a lakcím kártyája megérkezett a nagykövetségünkre.
Következő lépésként Önnek állampolgársági esküt vagy fogadalmat kell tennie a magyar külképviselet vezetője előtt, s a magyar állampolgárságot az eskütétel napján szerzi meg. Az esküt ezen felhívást követő egy éven belül kell letennie, különben a honosítás hatályát veszti.

Az eskütételre egy olyan hónapot,  napot és időpontot kell találnunk amely mind az Ön mind pedig a misszió vezető úr részére megfelelő."
Thanks to this forum and the great people here, I am so incredibly excited.
8 months to the day since my second application!    

Congrats!! This is wonderful news!
Happy for you.
I asked my husband where the ceremony would be held, he doesn't know.
Asked if you will be in Hungary to take the oath or outside of Hungary.
I suppose if you are in Hungary it would be somewhere in Budapest and if not then held at your closest HU Embassy.
My husband took the oath for US citizenship back in the late 1970's. It was exciting, there were about 100 people with him do the oath.
Again, that is great news and you should be proud of all your hard work.

That's wonderful Blonder.

I've been waiting for a reply about the same time and it's good to know I can possibly be expecting a letter soon

blonder wrote:

I finally got my acceptance email for simplified naturalization!

Congratulations.

However, the traditional image you posted I have to admit still bothers me.

The Hungarian national symbol with the crocked Christian cross on the crown.

Speaks, literally, volumes about real understanding of Christan value in Hungary -- i.e. it is mostly crooked.

Thanks forum folks!  I am really excited and it came at a time I needed some good news in life!
Hope the rest of you get the domino effect and can receive your citizenship OK from Hungary, soon!
I didn't know about the crooked cross -- therefore I will add the classic symbol of the coat of arms for the Kingdom of Hungary, the place where my beloved grandparents were born.

I remember when the crown was first returned back to Hungary.
We stood in line for hours to see it.
I am 100% non religious not saying I am not a spiritual person but do not follow any dogma.
Crazy enough to have a ex Russian orthodox dad and  native American/ Baptist/ JW mom, let's talk confusion!
I still do respect the Hungarian culture and actually think it is sort of interesting that people really do believe in the things they do.
I for one love to walk inside old churches , find them so lovely, my husband will not even enter them these days, should find out exactly what happened when he was an halter/choir boy!! Just messing around , he was fine.
One church where he was an alter boy as a 9 year old in Budapest is very close to the Elisabeth bridge in the 5th district. His parents were married inside so on a holiday I wanted to go in and look around.
He came with me and saw the priest who he used to help out as a child, he just turned around and walk out without saying hello, so odd.
I was lucky enough to actually visit several of the old wooden handmade churches in the Lemko region of SE Poland where my father was born.
Got to see the one in his tiny village, wow to me it is not so much about religion but about the lives of the people who gave their all for what they believed in. Sort of cool to have strong feelings and strong faith in something.
Reminds me of the days when people stood together for their communities.
It wasn't so much about me but about us.
Think we could all use some of that old fashioned thinking these days.

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

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He came with me and saw the priest who he used to help out as a child, he just turned around and walk out without saying hello, so odd.....

Think we could all use some of that old fashioned thinking these days.

That doesn't surprise me at all.   Mrs Fluffy does not have fond memories of the church under communism.  It was a competing ideology then and the State used to threaten people who were active members.  Teachers for example, could lose their jobs.

But it's not just in Hungary, the Catholic church does not exactly have a good reputation internationally either when it comes to children in their care -  plenty of news reports on that, in the USA, UK, Australia, Ireland etc.   

I would hope any and all religions move forward to a modern era as most of them are intolerant.   I'm not seeing a lot of movement from any of these groups these days. 

I think for many adherents, if they don't move on  from their old fashioned dogma and rapidly, they'll just become an irrelevance or worse, start some wars.

My husband joined the Buddhists for a bit back in the mid 70's on Maui.
It was a Japanese sect and he was the only non Asian in the place.
Interesting for the time, a Young long haired Hungarian man trying something that was so new, most of his other friends from Hungary just didn't get it.
He no longer chants but it did change his life,
Our son is somewhat of a Buddhist too.Our son chants daily before work and sometimes on a bad day after work as well, cleans the brain and body of stress from the unreal world of reality.
I worked in the casino industry in Vegas with many, many Buddhists, One needs a bit of grounding to work in the field without snapping.
At least they don't make one swallow allot of BS and  promote tolerance and peace.
I do remember back on Maui there were many Hippie families and all of the children were sweet as could be, they never fought with other kids and didn't act up like non Buddhist kids often did in the play yard.
Yes, I heard that my husbands family was not exactly on the popular list in the old communist days, they could go to church but not really able to talk about it much.
They never tried for high jobs as they wouldn't be able to go to church and get promoted too.
My father's family was very strict Rusin/Lemko from Poland, after his forced stint in WW11, he never even talked about religion and we never went to any churches growing up, Something must of happened big time for him to just walk away so  abruptly from tradition. ( Must of witnessed allot of drama)
In many ways I think I may of been lucky that both my parents were pretty much liberal about religion because they left it up to us what we wanted to do or not.
I love going into the old churches in Hungary just because they are so beautiful and so old, my husband literally almost seems to get a heart attack if I try to drag him inside to look around. It takes allot for him to go inside, someone has to get married or die before he will set foot inside one.
Yet he would stand in line for hours to see St. Stephan's crown, some things are buried deep inside of a person and nothing will totally remove it, he respects his Hungarian culture allot, more then even he knows.

Yea, so about that simplified naturalization...

Congrats blonder!

Thank you.  Got ANOTHER email last night that before I get my certificate and "ok" to set the date for my oath, they want to check my language level one last time...
I am traveling so I have asked for 2 months.
I guess it will be like last time.  Everyday convo about my life, work, studies etc.
So, I will really study hard again and try to go further then my daily convo.
Hopefully it will all be ok.  They do have the signed certificate in hand but before I get that and my oath date, one more language level check...

Blonder - can you please share that email as well? Specifically the part about them checking your language skill one more time.

They are so strict it seems, you can do it, they probably just really wish to weed out people for some reason.
Don't overstress about it, just study and be ready when the time comes.

A legutóbbi értesítésem időpontjától számított 1 éven belül kell letennie az állampolgársági esküt, mely során, és erre a korábbi konzul kollégám felhívta a figyelmét, ellenőrizni fogjuk a magyar nyelvtudását.
Yes, I feel stressed.  I have 2 months to get my brain going again and not freeze up this time.

Overkill, why are they so hard on everyone, its not like Hungary is over populated or anything like that.
I would totally fail the language test, never even put any energy into learning Hungarian. People used to only teach me the "bad" words, guess they found it amusing, not really though.
I can curse like a sailor in Hungarian but can't ask directions, all the good my limited language skills do me.
I know you will pass with flying colors, no worries, just study a bit each day and you will be fine.

blonder wrote:

I didn't know about the crooked cross -- therefore I will add the classic symbol of the coat of arms for the Kingdom of Hungary, the place where my beloved grandparents were born.

Well.... that is complicated too. The double cross is considered by Slovakia as their national symbol:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Slovakia

Central Europe.... it is, if anything, complex.....

Hmmmmmm.  What would be best ?  I really love crests or coat of arms.  Once I take my oath I want to tattoo 3 citz on me.  My first tattoo
Double cross in red would be more Hungarian?  I'm well aware of the double cross in SK.

https://www.google.at/search?q=coat+of+ … wSXwqfM%3A    Love this one! 

That is sweet that you want a tat to rep. Hungary.
I would research it allot though before committing myself in ink.
Find someone who can do a great job if it and pick the coat of arms that you feel is best for you alone.
It would be sad if you find the right one for yourself and the artist messed it up.
My siblings have tats, even my 68 year old sister has a few she got years back, she also rides a motorbike so that's her story.
Tat's are very personal things so please don't get wasted or talked into getting one out of the blue, be sober and aware when you get yours.
It is a spiritual thing to get one, I think.
We researched one coat of arms from one branch of my husbands Hungarian family,
It was not as romantic and strong in character as one would think of most arms. It was from a family branch that lived near water, it had 3 swans on the symbol, a rose some water and a boat.
Not exactly a dragon and sword that most people find exciting.

Congratulations -- that's good news that spurs me to work harder on my own on-and-off language studies.

But that follow-up e-mail is disturbing. I would have thought that once the President had signed your certificate, that was it. Are they going to go back and tell him they made a mistake? It seems to accomplish nothing but keep you on tenterhooks for another two months.

The question of course is, does everyone receive that same follow-up?

And could I ask, just to measure my own progress, how well you could understand those e-mails without using a dictionary?

The new staff at the consul first stated that I would do eskuem in April.  I stated could I do it in the EU. The next answer was a few days later and it was I need to do one more  check of my ability in Hungarian.  I can understand 60% or 70%. I told them I'm no interpreter. I'll do my best and clearly the bar is higher than years ago. I thought the same thing.  I have my certificate and they want to do the oath.  So, what if I am the same as 8 months ago.  I try very hard but I'm not super fluent.  I consider myself conversational basic. And yes, I have heard of 2 others that had to do a telephone or visit second language check. And yes kiscit izgulok.

Blonder, I think you will be just fine and dandy.
They do seem to just love to stress people out at every level in Hungary.
From customs, immigration to driving, it is all one big game to those holding an oz. of power and control over someone else's life.
I will bet they just ask you a few simple things and the deal is done.
I too wondered why they are playing games with you, it is all a big game to them, don't take it seriously you have rights and after all if your claim is not  good then who's is?

You are sweet Marilyn.   I'll do my best.  One thing I DO know and this goes for any Embassy I the world and all countries.  There is a point system for promotion.  To have a successful new Hungarian is a big feather in the workers cap.  It's an easier climb up the diplomatic ladder.  Trust me.  I have found the Hungarians and this simplified naturalization a blessing compared to what the Slovaks put you through.  Magyar a verem.  I'll be ready as I really want this.  Just a little more after so many years.   I'm going to really do my best.

Thanks. I was concerned that reading texts like those without assistance was the standard I should be aiming at.

I hope not.  That is too specialized.   Someone once said that we should stick to the conversation of our CV. I agree.  I would also love to hear from more people and how their language requirement went.
Remember that like me you can always try again.
I do get it that we should speak Hungarian but everyone knows it's a very difficult language and I'm sure the average Hungarian consul staff understand this fact.

Nem.   Every consular worker is different.   I don't have the answers except intermediate conversation is the requirement.

blonder wrote:

Hmmmmmm.  What would be best ?  I really love crests or coat of arms.  Once I take my oath I want to tattoo 3 citz on me.  My first tattoo
Double cross in red would be more Hungarian?  I'm well aware of the double cross in SK.

Some ideas for a tattoo:

1) Current or historical (pre-WWI) country map of Hungary.

2) The current flag of Hungary. (Yeah, it includes the crown with the bent cross, but it is official).

3) Some symbol that are distinctly Hungarian, like the Chain Bridge in Budapest, or a very cute Hungarian maiden in traditional Hungarian attire. 

Perhaps it might be best to get your tat in Budapest where a local artist can do the detail work with an idea of what you want.
I would research a few shops before committing to ink, make sure their line work etc. was what you have in mind.
I was considering a tat with one of my old friends on our 60th birthdays, we have known each other since we were 14,
On consideration, didn't do it, not really for me.
Let us know what you decide to get,sounds fun.

klsallee wrote:

blonder wrote:

Hmmmmmm.  What would be best ?  I really love crests or coat of arms.  Once I take my oath I want to tattoo 3 citz on me.  My first tattoo
Double cross in red would be more Hungarian?  I'm well aware of the double cross in SK.

Some ideas for a tattoo:

1) Current or historical (pre-WWI) country map of Hungary.

2) The current flag of Hungary. (Yeah, it includes the crown with the bent cross, but it is official).

3) Some symbol that are distinctly Hungarian, like the Chain Bridge in Budapest, or a very cute Hungarian maiden in traditional Hungarian attire. 

Hmm....mischievous thoughts crossed my mind for tats - apologies in advance for the cynicism.

a) Russian Federation's flag (for when Hungary rejoins Russian sphere of influence). 

b) Symbol of the Arrow Cross (in case that goes through a re-re-revival).

Whatever you do, don't have a Bhudda tat and go to Thailand.

For now I have to wait and see which day in June they will test my language again and commit to a 2 month daily mega dose of studying.

fluffy2560 wrote:

Hmm....mischievous thoughts crossed my mind for tats - apologies in advance for the cynicism.

a) Russian Federation's flag (for when Hungary rejoins Russian sphere of influence). 

b) Symbol of the Arrow Cross (in case that goes through a re-re-revival).

Zing! 

Great point from ZIF:

"But that follow-up e-mail is disturbing. I would have thought that once the President had signed your certificate, that was it. Are they going to go back and tell him they made a mistake? It seems to accomplish nothing but keep you on tenterhooks for another two months."

Yes, the President already signed it.  It's at the Embassy. 
I saw on the net what the actual certificate looks like.  So they have the same one with my name on it and signed at the Embassy from what I read:

okirat1
okirat

I sent an email today as a friend pointed out some law and I sent to the Embassy staff:

*Március 30, 2016
"Ezúton örömmel értesítem, hogy Magyarország Köztársasági Elnöke aláírta az Ön honosítási kérelmét.
A honosítási okirat  illetve a lakcím kártyája megérkezett a nagykövetségünkre."

1993. évi LV. törvény
a magyar állampolgárságról
16. §
(2) A polgármester vagy a konzuli tisztvisel
az  okirat  megérkezését  követ
15  napon  belül értesíti  a  kérelmezt  az  állampolgársági  eskü
vagy   fogadalom   letételének   idpontjáról   és helyér

vagy

(2) The oath or pledge of allegiance shall be
taken within two months of receipt of notice.

* 15 napon vagy 2 honap?

Sajnálom.  Vagyok Magyarországon és Szlovákiában - március-május 28.

I think I have a year but other laws show I have to do my oath within 15 days of notice or 2 months ... confused.

Poor Blonder, I have a feeling it is set, nothing to worry about.
For some lame reason some idiot is just messing with your mind.
It is normal to get mixed messages in Hungary from officials.
If the Pres. singed it already you must be good to go.
I would bet that no one ever bothers to even call you up again and the next thing you know you will be taking the oath.
Can't hurt to practice your language skills just in case but I have a feeling no one is going to be ringing up for another test.
Wish you all the best.
What I don't understand is why they put people through such a hassle to be a HU citizen when clearly you have a very legit claim.
No offence to 3 rd world people but it is not exactly like Hungary is 1st world and you are trying to step up your status with a HU passport. You already have a EU passport so it is clear that you are doing all this out of love and not for personal gain.
So unfair to abuse you like this.

If what your going through is any indication of how the simple naturalization process is, I hate to think of the complex way!

The complex way Marilyn is called "Slovak citizenship naturalization".

Hmmm, guess I will forget about trying to get either SK or Polish citizenship through my father.
He was a Rusin on both sides going back to just one small area in SE Poland for what we have documented to 1775. Probably the families
were there even much longer then that.
The area was part of Hungary ages ago. Noticed many Hungarian surnames in the bunch.
The area was part of Hungary, SK, Poland , Galicia,Ukraine, so confusing really.
I totally understand your want of belonging to a group of people who are close to you.
In reality, we are all one but knowing second or third cousins still living in a "strange" old country is exciting. I was able to met 16 of my family, one 2nd cousin was born in Hungary and is married to a Hungarian, both are doctors living in the Uk now. I had no idea my roots had anything to do with Hungary at all before just less then 3 years ago.
I think I mentioned before that I was lucky enough to go visit the area and actually met people who are related to me or knew of my family.
One 91 year old women told me that my relations seemed to have left the area in 1939, makes me wonder if they left or were taken away to some dark horrid place. Guess I'll never know for sure.
I was very excited and slightly proud to see many of my relations were part of the axle grease trade that was a big business in that area in the mid 1880's. They have a museum in Poland and my maiden surname was listed many times in their records.
I truly hope this business of getting citizenship works out for you,it's all about pride but so what you should be proud of your roots.