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lmurphy213

I’m currently deciding whether to pursue a student visa or a non-lucrative visa.


The two issues I have regarding the non lucrative visa are that a) technically you are not supposed to have a US mortgage and b) you are not allowed to work.

I do have a US mortgage and I’m not planning on selling my property until I know for sure that I want to relocate to Spain permanently. I am giving myself a year (or two, or three) to make that decision. I personally know someone who was able to get her non-lucrative visa with three (!) US mortgages. and I read in another Facebook group, a few different people who were able to get their non-lucrative visas through the Los Angeles consulate with US mortgages. Apparently it just depends on the consulate (or maybe the person that day).

Secondly, I’m not 100% sure that I am “done” working. I may want to do some health coaching and consulting while I am there. But, supposedly, with the non-lucrative visa you are not allowed to work. (I cannot apply for a digital nomad visa at this point because my health coaching business would be brand new with no revenue as of yet as I’ve been offering my services for free).

This brings me to the student visa, which I am open to pursuing. It’s more the fact that I have to be in school or take classes for 20 hours a week, which feels a little restrictive in terms of the travel that I also want to do while I am there.  I am also concerned that it will be harder for me to rent property as a student. Although I have no real substantiation of that.


if anyone can offer experience, advice, suggestions, I am open to hearing it all! Thank you in advance!

compel

I didn't read anything about having a mortgage when you are applying for a NVL!! Because basically it is a visa to visit for a year so I guess you could be going back. But if you want a NLV they might want to see that you can not only afford to live in Spain for a year with sufficient funds, but also prove you have funds to pay your mortgage as well.. For the options it's best to speak with your Local Spanish Consulate.

freise

Referring to take up work, a student visa allows 30 hours max. per week. However this can be taken easy, as there are many ways to override it. Wages are low and unemployemtn is high. Housing is scarce and over 5 mio. flats are empty as no-one wants them. Thousands of villages are completely abandoned due to lack of infrastructure. Better think twice. One of my grandsons will study architecture in Trento/Italy (actually in Valencia). Good luck.

gwynj

@lmurphy213


If you've got 30k euros of savings without selling your property, I'd suggest you get the NLV. If not, then student visa it is. :-)


The official (Spanish government/immigration department) guidance is for 2,400 euros (4 X IPREM) in passive income (rent, dividends, pensions, etc.) or the equivalent in savings for the first year (2.4k x 12 = 29k). They don't mention mortgages. This is something in the USA added by some/all consulates there. I don't know how easy it is for them to check and I don't know if they go to the trouble of doing a credit check on you. I'd have guessed if you don't mention it, you're probably OK. As you've seen, some folks get the NLV even with a mortgage. You have to apply at the consulate nearest you, so you can read their guidelines.


For example, here's Miami

https://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulado … ativa.aspx


It's standard guidance and doesn't mention mortgages.


And here's LA

https://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulado … ativa.aspx


This includes extra conditions about mortgages, bank statements, and declarations (not to work). I'd guess your bank statement will show payments for loans and mortgages, so that would be easy to spot. But you could get another bank account (with no loan payments) and provide statements for that instead.


Yes, the NLV is a non-working visa, typically for retirees and the independently wealthy. You can't be employed or self-employed ("autonomo") in Spain. But doing some remote work is hard to police and many folks do it. If later you decide you really want to work officially, and perhaps be autonomo, then you can apply for a change of status to the appropriate visa.


If you want to travel and do your own thing, then that's the NLV. With a student visa you will be in one place, doing some kind of formal course of study. With the added cost of the course you enroll on.

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