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Why don't the Expats website and YouTube show Brazil

Last activity 21 April 2023 by Mikeflanagan

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NewBrazil

I live here in Brazil am a Expat trying to keep up what happening in the world. I find it interesting most of the YouTube promoters talking about places to live for Expats. Alway mentioned Mexico, Philippines, Thailand, Central America, Chile, Columbia and Spain, Portugal, Europe. Even some Eastern Europe with Dubai. But very rarely mention Brazil sometime Argentina and Uruguay. I like anyone comment why you think Brazil is not one of the top countries to retire or live for Expat. I think Brazil is a Diamond undiscovered gem. Thanks

Inubia

Youtube is a USA propaganda outlet.

The USA and its affiliates have a strong vested interest in retaining people and especially money within its borders or, faling that, within the borders of allies that the USA can control.

Brazil is not one of those nations.

For that reason, most USA propaganda outlets tend to present Brazil as not a favorable place to live.  They stress the official murder rate and crime statistics.

Personally, I dont want more americans here anyway, so I'm happy with the situation. 

abthree

04/13/23 I think that the fairest description of Brazil's official attitude toward immigration in general, and expats in particular, is ambivalent.


The most certain ways to obtain unrestricted resident status in Brazil are (1.) to have a Brazilian spouse, child, or parent, (2.) to have a labor contract pre-approved by the Ministry of Labor with the proper visa obtained while still abroad, (3.) to be a Portuguese citizen, or (4.) to be a refugee who satisfies the requirements of international law for asylum. Being able to claim a União Estável with a Brazilian citizen can also work as (1.), at the discretion of the Polícia Federal if the foreigner doesn't have a VITEM XI.


The next easiest ways are to be a citizen of a Mercosul country, to enter the country on select Religious Worker visas, to enter on an Investor Visa, to enter on a Retirement or Digital Nomad visa, or to successfully complete the Authorization for Residency process for Retirees or Digital Nomads at the Polícia Federal. All of these currently have more stringent requirements and restrictions than the methods in the first paragraph.


Beyond those, every Brazilian immigration visa under the 2017 law is strictly limited and the holders are expected to eventually return to their countries of origin, and a tourist visa cannot be bootstrapped into permanent residence. And that's about the whole story.


Unlike Mexico, Portugal, Spain, or the Dominican Republic that actively try to attract retirees, Brazil does nothing of the kind. There's certainly no dedicated infrastructure for retirees, no encouragement of retirement communities, and no adjustment assistance or language instruction offered. Under the Lei de Estrangeiros that was replaced in 2017 by the current Lei de Migração, there was a Permanent Visa, a VIPER, for retirees that functioned almost exactly like the VIPER for Family Unification, and had all the same benefits, except that working for pay in Brazil was not allowed. In 2017 when all the other VIPERs were replaced by VITEMs that were functionally the same except for being temporary, the retiree VIPER was simply abolished for new applicants.


The VITEM XIV that replaced it a couple of years later is much stingier, with a very brief renewal period and a health insurance requirement, a first in Brazilian immigration law. We're going to learn a lot from the round of renewals that's going on now, and even more from the next one, a year or two from now. A telltale sign will be whether or not renewing retirees receive CRNMs with "validade indeterminada", as other people over 60 do. If not, that will make it pretty clear that the welcome really is temporary.

KenAquarius

@abthree Agree 💯. Brazil does nothing to attract retirees (or anyone else for that matter). Even for someone like myself who is very familiar with Brazil, and has been married to a Brazilian for over 16 years, it’s still a mess to say the least. On top of all this is the endless bureaucracy, and contradictory information you might be given. I was given 2 very contradictory answers on the same day in the same office. Suffice to say if it isn’t stamped or verified with some official marking, it means NOTHING.

sprealestatebroker

There are some US Expats showcasing Brazil . Some are merely tourists ( there are a ton of them ), and some actually took up residency. 


The tourist ones go through  the same perfunctory  stuff over and over  ( easts, city landmarks ). 


The one that gives the most fair cover is an American couple over Ecuador ( Amelia and JP ) , some do Mexico. 


It's not an Algorithm bias. it's just that most of the Brazilian coverage isn't adequate enough to get a huge subscriber base.   



And in fairness to the Country, Brazil has continental dimensions, there are so many subregions with its cultural subset ( maybe not as varied as Russia or China, or India, but there are subtleties ).


It would be nice if Bald & Bankrupt ( Benjamin ) done Brazil.     


Brazilians might not be, for most part, quite adept in showcasing the country in English, and therein might lie the problem.   


So, if you have a good camera, money to travel, and time to spare, go at it. 

Kitty Faria

@NewBrazil I gave a channel about Salvador, Bahia! https://m.youtube.com/@soyouwannaliveinbahia

Kitty Faria

@NewBrazil not gave. Have. I have a channel on YouTube. ‘So you wanna live in bahia’

NewBrazil

Thanks for all the responses for the difference reasons Brazil is not promoted. I think a lot of people have no idea how diverse the country is and beautiful. The only thing Brazil is missing is mountain of Snow😁. Most the world it only seem to hear is how the Amazon is being destroyed or Rio Carnival. Thank again

I do have a YouTube video called Solar Panels from Brazil. If you have a interest how this is working out

roddiesho

@NewBrazil They are there ...just filter "moving to Brazil" or "Reasons to move to Brazil" and you will find plenty of channels on YouTube showcasing Brazil


I agree with those who said that it is not a big priority for Brazil. i have seen those "10 ten countries to retire to in South America" You Tube channels. In reality Brazil is the Godzilla of South America. i am sure the listing means more to say Paraguay than Brazil.


I have found that my observations about Brazil and the culture are totally different than many of these You Tube channels. As @sprealestatebroker says they are usually about common landmarks and cultural trends none of them my concerns (kids on motorcycles, fires on the side of the street, no public service for trash etc.)


Hate to but have to add that I have been coming to Brazil since our Brazilian stepmother from Niteroi (across from Rio) Joined our family when I was 8 or 10. I am African American and as I got older, I would find myself meeting other African American males in Brazil (the unofficial expat cafe across from Copacabana Beach). i was there in Brazil with family, most of them were there because they had heard rumors and YouTube channels about how "easy" Brazilian Women etc. are. I kept reminding them they were talking about my niece, cousins etc.....


Brazil is definitely in the spotlight on YouTube.


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BRBC

Here are some Brazil expat channels I follow:

https://www.youtube.com/@americaninbrasil

https://www.youtube.com/@thebrazilianexpat4041

https://www.youtube.com/@OurBrazilianLife

https://www.youtube.com/@nordicinvestor2


This channel is a couple planning to live half-time in Brazil once they retire, although they're not currently expats in Brazil:

https://www.youtube.com/@FIREWeGo

roddiesho

@BRBC WoW! I am glad I am retired because this is a lot of videos to go through. i started with the last one, but I may check my YouTube subscription to give them the EXPAT.COM link if the last couple does not have it.  It's amazing what you prepare for out of Brazil, then realize what you should have prepared for when you get here.


i also caught a bit of the Nordic Investor to see if one of his challenges was CITY SERVICES, no trash pickup, can't use toilet paper, graffiti non-stop in the big cities etc.


Thanx, I will try to get through the channels.


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abthree

04/17/23 graffiti non-stop in the big cities etc.
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-@roddiesho

The second most effective anti-graffiti measure I've seen was by a company here in Manaus that posted on their wall, "For every month that this wall goes without graffiti, we'll donate ten Cestas Básicas to ________ Parish for distribution to the poor."


The most effective anti-graffiti measure that I've seen was by a homeowner in Niterói who painted at the top of the wall:  "Senhores Pichadores, this space is reserved for beginners. " 😂

Mikeflanagan

Lots of stuff I have personally seen on youtube videos are either bias, out of date in terms of information or just don't do justification to the natives of brazil, on the same stroke its always funny to think of watching a video of someone doing what your currently doing.

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