Moving to Singapore

Hi everyone

I wondered if I might be able to get some advice regarding a potential move to Singapore with my family (2 kids, both junior school age).

I'm very excited but have absolutely no idea about living costs, good salaries, etc.

I'm particularly worried about school fees - it seems to be very expensive! Where we currently live, good schools are free of charge - so that probably explains why it's a bit of a shock. Any input on likely costs for this would be appreciated... My research shows around 60,000 SD per year for the two of them.

Generally, I'd be interested to hear whether 225k US per year represents a good salary, pre tax, taking account of having to pay for school fees and accommodation out of that.

As regards accommodation, I have budgeted 7,000 p/m for a 4 bed house in a god area. Sound realistic?

Thanks in advance!

Cheers!

We have plenty of discussion on this topic and below link is one of them.

https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=686462

Thank you

While there is no free schooling for foreigners in Singapore and the cheaper (approx S$500/month per kid) public schools are very difficult to get into, most international schools cost S$1000-1500/month per kid and thus not quite as much as you heard.
S$7000/month will get you a very nice apartment in a good location, but houses are rare and cost more.
US$225k is a far above average salary and if you don't manage with that, you need to change your unreasonably expensive lifestyle and spending habits. The average Singapore family (with, statistically, 1.2 kids) has below S$5000/month and lives well.

Hi,

I'm living in Singapore and on about the same amount. I will however be relocating to London and have been looking at the same things. Let me share my 11 year experience as an expat here.

Your salary is quite good even for an expat. it's almost unheard of for a local.

$7000 for a 4 bedroom house is a good number. I have a 3bdrm for about 6K in a very nice area. It's 3 stories, almost 4K sqf with a big yard. On average, a house is between 4-10K depending on areas and type of house you want. Unless you want to live in the city centre, you would want to look at places like East Coast district 14-16. East coast is the new in area but prices in housing are slowly coming down. Bukit Timah is also a nice however more expensive area. Look at district 10 & 11. They are pretty convenient areas to get in to town with lots of trains and buses. Taxis are abundant as well.

Schooling here is very expensive. Budget $30-35K per child just for tuition. That won't include books, transport or uniforms plus other incidentals (school trips etc).

At your salary bracket, you can look at probably around 12-14% tax rate. Other things that are expensive here include:

Car - unbelievably, stupidly expensive to buy one. My recommendation is to lease. You can get a very nice car including insurance, maintenance etc for about 2k per month. A down payment on a Toyota Corolla would cost you about 50-60K alone.

Alcohol - Average price for pint in most bars and restaurants around Singapore is around 12-15. Could go as high as $20 in the higher end places.

Grocery - Food shopping at the typical "Expat" focused places is pretty expensive. Try to be more like a local and you will get good quality stuff or much less. Think Giant Hypermart or Fairprice Finest and also leverage the wet markets. We try to do a weekly trip. They are in most local neighborhoods so easy to find.

Dining out - Depending on your taste, a family of 4 dining out will set you back $100 minimum. A really nice meal out can be upwards of $3-400.

In summary, Singapore is not the cheap place it once was. For the last few years it has ranked as the most expensive city in the world and the government is actually proud of that. They intentionally want to raise the cost of living to be on par with Tokyo or Hong Kong. You can live as large as you want here.

Leave aside the costs, Singapore is a great place to raise kids. A lot of greenery and quite international with a large expat community. Travel around the region to places like Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia etc is very cheap and easy to do, which is a great experience for the kids as well. It is also very safe. I forgot my iPhone 7 in the men's room in a large shopping mall a few weeks ago and went back within 5 minutes to find it gone. I called from my wife's phone and someone had already taken it to a nearby restaurant to hold for the owner.

All in all, it was a good experience for us to be here but we are moving on now. I would say it would be good for you as well. Singapore is Asia light so not hard to adjust.

Hope this info helps.

Thanks Steve - that's an excellent post!

If I can be any help on London, feel free to message.

Cheers

Glad I can help and I appreciate your offer.

Further to my earlier post, have a look at this site for housing. http://www.propertyguru.com.sg

it's the best one here and will give you an accurate look at the cost of housing. Note that rents are negotiable so when we searched for our house, we set a search budget of $8k and found this house asking $7.2. We got it for $6k.

Hope that helps.

Link is under review so search for property guru Singapore.

stevep1114 wrote:

Car - unbelievably, stupidly expensive to buy one. My recommendation is to lease.


I recommend not having one.
Public transport is comprehensive, works well and is very cheap. Even taking a taxi wherever you go would be cheaper than having your own car.

Beppi,

You are right but having a family and being used to driving around all the time may make sense. We didn't have a car for the first 7 years here and then when we borrowed a car for a weekend, we found it so much more convenient that we can't do without now. it's personal preference and you are right, not having one is easy as well but having one opens different options in lifestyle. Such as, we can drive across the border to JB Outlet malls do a day of shopping without any issues. Hard to do with a taxi or bus. You could definitely hire a car for a day but again it's the long term experience versus a one day affair.