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Construction cost and potholes

I am a construction professional and can and have been hands on for many years.
Can anyone give me in ball park figures the cost of building 1,500msq 2 bed condos to American/ European standards.
Also availability of quality building sand, solar power installations and wind turbines please?

I am definately not the one to answer this...

Thanks Planner,  just hoping someone can. Many thanks for previous advice and connections :kiss:

Hello MrD&MissC

Can you please tell where your project will be located??

In regards your question of construction cost I have the following info:

Basic raw/unfinished construction on a ground level (like a garage, underground water tank, storage area, etc 15000 to 20000 pesos x square meter.

Finish ground level construction start around 27000 to 30000 pesos per square meter

Finish construction on a second floor you can accomplish that on a 20000 to 25000 pesos x square meter.

Now, it is important to understand that the prices above are base on very basic construction and finishes, and using decent labor and material (something on an OK level of construction for the rest of the world), however, site conditions like power, roads, existing or missing fences will seriously impact your pricing. another important item is !!LABOR!! this item itself can destroy any calculation on the blink of an eye.

In regard finishes, be aware that the market is flooded of low-quality Chinese-made materials. The option of premium materials are not abundant and be ready to pay a high premium for it or sometimes you will need to import it yourself from the USA (that specially apply to fixtures).

Another thing to understand is that skilled labor is not abundant, and the little one available is busy working on the hotel development or very high-end residential project, and local are not really happy about the idea of relocating.

!!Bottom line: the more upscale you go the more ready to pay with fund and patience and always check things 20+times (locals NEVER say no to anything that you ask)!!!

Disclaimer: the information above is base on my field research for last 2-3 year. I did not face the actual construction of my vacation home yet.

In regards suppliers, it varies a lot from area to area. Basic material like sand and gravel are abundant but you need to rely on your own judgment when buying. Also be aware that local have a tendency on always mark up everything (especially if you are a foreigner) never close a deal on anything until you check prices on several places and be ready to ALWAYS bargain on it (that is a common practice on DR) for the basic materials you need to do your own land scouting. and be sure that ALL CHARGES are included "forgetting" things like transportation cost is also very common.

When purchasing materials be ready to be unpolite/rude in some cases. NEVERRRRR take your eyes out your material at any time, you need to treat everything like transporting gold, or otherwise, you can be ordering something and receiving a complete load of something else. Remember that most places do not offer return policies or even they will charge you for their mistakes. When buying fixtures open the boxes and check your order before to leave the place.

In regards concrete: use de pre-mixed truck delivery if that option is available in your area, is a little safer to go with big companies like Cemex or Homigones del Atlantico.

For solar power, i know a company run by French national ( i never used but I have a very good reference from my neighbors). Please send me an e-mail to projects[at]navaeddy.com and will be glad to forward their scanned business card.

I am not trying to sound pessimistic, is just the reality of life and construction projects in DR. I might have some more information. Feel free to ask.

Excellent post! Thank you.

Thank you Navaeddy,
Precise and too the point. I understand labour problems and other intrinsic diversifications as have built in the Caribbean before. I always maintain a hands on approach and employed labour on a daily basis, no good no work tomorrow. My specific question on sand is that in St Lucia when I built there was no quality building sand only sea sand- too much salt and river sand - too course and needs sieveing.  From this point of view it would be good to know if building sand is available. If not I may consider dung and soil paste as being a good quality compression jointing compound
Regards, D

navaeddy
Great post... thank you

Bob K

MrD&MissC

As far I know, yes there are decent quality concrete aggregates, including sand, however, i don't have any provider info at the moment.

In regards solar energy you can contact Francis Beneviste hayluz[at]luzsol.com 829-820-7251

This construction related info is extremely interesting. Thanks for everything so far.

I'd like to verify if the cost, for example of a concrete fence, at a hight about 1,4 meter and width about 40cm would fall in the category of 15.000 pesos per running meter (or less)? We are looking at a possibility of purchasing a rehab property.

T.M.

To put in a full concrete fence will probably cost a tad more than this as even a concrete fence requires foundations. I would check the cost of premoulded concrete panels fixed between concrete fence posts as this will be cheaper and change the foundation cost to post holes at approx every 2 metres.Also at 1.4 high it will not really act as a deterrent unless you intend to electric wire above
Regards D

MrD is correct.

Another thing to check: why 40cm? is it perhaps a retaining wall?

I don't mean to offend anyone but most of the information provided is irrelevant without location.  Here it is all about the money.  That is the money you have not the money you want to spend.  Prices are all over the board depending on location, quantity and quality and timing.  All of these play a factor in your pricing.  I can give you prices (low) that will make your eyes roll and next door the prices will be so high you will think you are in the US or UK or ...  I can buy something with an avocado, that you will reach into your pocket and give $20USD for with thinking about it...many things here are circumstantial.  I believe your price for a concrete wall is very high, unless of course you are in Cap Cana or similar.  Labour here is generally cheap, some materials (imported) can be very expensive.  Sieving can sometimes be the cheapest (labour is cheap, equipment is expensive) alternative, although prehistoric to first world country constructors...
If you want to compete here, you sometimes have to do what the country finds normal.  Property is not easy to sell here no matter how well you build it.  Imagine as a home owner you need to patch up a little grout around your tub.  You will probably go to the closest Ferretería (hardware store) and buy a 20lb bag of grout.  In fact you only need a few ounces to do the job and the rest will become waste.  You will most likely not be aware that you can buy 1lb. just by asking for it.  Then go to the back where they will scoop out enough and it will cost you almost nothing and without much waste.  That is the DR.

Asking for generalities is how you find a base to work from! Itakes sense to have a place to start when comparing and learning!

Absolutely, I think most viewing this will realise that this is a generalisation of costs based on a fair medium which as Naveddy has already stated is based on his own research. As an Architect I would consider his research to be relatively accurate and if I attempt to build would allow quite a large contingency for wastage even if you have eyes everywhere you will still end up tiling someone else floor and patioing their veranda. This is without making sure they are using rebars correctly, mixing concrete to the correct ratio and using off cut tiles instead of throwing away three quarters of a tile. Just some of the potholes I have experienced. Let alone a roof which was stripped back 3 times before it stopped leaking through capillary action ( water running uphill )
D

Greetings DominicanadaMike

No offense at all on your comment, !!The more comments the merrier!!, and yes you are absolutely right, location plus a full set of constructions drawings and detailed list of finishes are crucial for accurate construction estimation, and even with that be ready for a tsunami of other things. Just to give a sample, I am facing a 60k+ pesos invoice in order to get underground power service on my property just because I decided that I do not want to see hanging wires in front of my main view; that right there is a bill that might not apply to others even on my own neighborhood. At the end of the day, every little thing adds up.

We need to remember that, there is zillion of internal and external element affecting the constructability of buildings, and in the top of that, to make thing easier, we all are in the wild west  :D

Every project is different. On my personal case, I do not compromise on quality, especially on concrete used on structures (very common on the entire country). I prefer to go smaller on my own dwellings or simpler/minimalistic on finishes. Every property owner needs to make their minds and face their own choices.

What is most important is sharing information on this forum. By doing that we create a better understanding for the entire community on this very confusing, exhausting and time-consuming subject. Fell free to share any information or comments that you might have.

Well navaeddy, My underground installation from my house to the CEPM (electric company)  connection point on the other side of a main paved road is about 20K pesos everything included.  I would probably pay less but the contractor has been very good with me so far...  Yes, the quality has to be good, I am an Electrical Engineer.

Our points exactly, wide variables in cost depending on location, topography, personal situation etc.
The difference between overhead cables, relatively short runs of underground cable to longer runs. The disparity in price grows
So, lets build a hypothetical 2 bed 2 bath 1,500 m/sq building within 500 yds of utilities including cess pit built on flat land from the ground up.
Foundation: Due to massive potential rainfall and regular tremors is there a need for extra reinforcement or expansion joints?

Sorry, I meant 1,500 sq/ft, average sized accommodation just the basics without  superlatives such as imported kitchens and built in storage.
Basic information q&a for any who have an interest in cost and pitfalls. With combined information we can probably help some save a lot of $$$$$

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