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Irish citizen born in USA. Never lived in ireland but work in EU

Hi guys, I am an irish citizen born in USA. Currently looking to move with my 4 year old daughter and wife to Ireland. My 4 year old daughter got her passport but we haven't done any paper work for my wife. I have heard it's difficult to get residency status once you arrive in Ireland or at least you need to demonstrate long term commitment to stay in the country. As I do not have any history it might difficult to prove.
But would like to know if I can start the process once I arrive in Dublin, if anyone had similar experiences. Also I might have offers to teach in Spain and Italy; Could I still start the residence process and be in other countries in EU? do I need to stay in Ireland and work there in order to obtain residency. My biggest concern is to have my family enrolled and with medical insurance and school.

Any comments or experiences regarding this will be great.
thanks!

Residency typically implies living and working inside the country continuously.

This link should be useful to you: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/mo … n_ireland/

Romaniac
Expat.com Experts Team

I would simply process your wife's passport before coming to Ireland, and then you shouldn't have any issues with entering and staying.

Definitely get your wife's passport BEFORE the move. It will expedite things greatly.

You do need to be living continuously in Ireland in order to establish residency. Once you do that, then you can travel/work within the EU.

Establishing residency can be a hair ripping experience. The acceptable documents are never the ones you bring in, it seems. You must have a printed utility bill sent via An Post to you at your residence. A hard copy of your digital bill will not do, even if your utility posts it to you. It must be their PRINT bill, not a copy of an e-bill. The catch is that these bills are only issued every other month... Electric and phone bills are the gold standard.

Without establishing residency you cannot open a bank account or get a PPS card. The latter is required for nearly every activity you can think of. We did find that Ulster Bank in our area rejected EVERY document we brought in. PTSB Permanent, on the other hand, was much more lenient and got us set up with an account within an hour or so. So do shop around for banks.

If your wife and child are not Irish citizens they will need to register with the Garda. When we landed we had a lot of documents in hand to establish our intent to reside in Ireland. We were rushed through our entry and given non-renewable 90-day stamps on our US passports. This meant my husband needed to write to Dublin to the immigration people for permission to stay as the spouse of an Irish citizen before he could register with the Garda. We needed to send our wedding cert and other papers. The government staff are, by the way, very good about returning these original documents. Which is good, since copies won't do.

Before you leave you should accumulate some documentation of your intent to leave the US and reside in Ireland. We sold or donated tons of our personal belongings and kept all those receipts. We rented our house out so we had a year's lease on that. We sold two cars and brought the bills of sale for them.

Please do get that passport for your wife, if at all possible. My situation was complicated by the fact I've gone by my nickname on ALL US documentation since I was 14 years old. The Irish bureaucracy is pretty opaque and um, whimsical so the Boston Consulate advised us to wait to untangle that until we moved. I wish I'd gotten that taken care of years earlier and gotten that passport as our lives would have been much less stressful initially.

Having said all this, you *will* get through those first few months. No one's going to toss you or your wife and child out of the country. We fretted a lot about the expiration of my sweetie's 90-day visa stamp. I'm embarrassed to say it took quite a few weeks for us to realize that should the worse happen he would only need to go to Wales, not all the way back to the US, to reenter the country.

Our An Post postwoman, Bernie, was a joy during those first few months. She'd deliver an official message. We'd open it up on the footpath. She'd cheer or commiserate accordingly.

This is a great place to have your questions answered. The first few months are the hardest, but remember no one's going to toss you out. That was our biggest fear, but we were on less solid ground than you are. My citizenship was via Registry of Foreign Birth and not taken seriously until I got that passport. My husband is not a citizen. Even Irish who grew up here have a hard time upon returning.

Is it worth it? Yep, yep, yep!!!

Guys, the credit unions are much more user friendly to new comers.  A lot of foreigners use them to start off, and once you have a history with them, changing shouldn't be such a big deal.  Just a suggestion.

Good catch. I meant to mention credit unions, but forgot.
It took us forever to find the local credit union. No one ever mentioned it so we didn't think of it. Usually we prefer credit unions. We've been happy with our bank so far, but I keep meaning to check into the credit union.
Definitely shop around though. We didn't think to do that soon enough so we subjected ourselves to extra frustration and a longer period of time without a bank account than was necessary.

I was born in the USA. Because 2 of my grandparents were born in Ireland I put into the ""Foreign Births Registery" by the Counsel General, who had offices in Chicago at the time.

All I had to do was declare what I was bringing into the country, with the customs department, upon arrivial. No hassel - no residence period.  Been here for 30 years.

You might do a search on the net and find where the Irish Counsel General's office is in the US. I was able to find out all I needed to know with a phone call and did the rest by mail.

Hope this helps. God bless, Donald Attig

These are all great tips.  I am Irish, but 6 years ago came to Canada who have very stringent rules for identification, etc.  I brought my passport (Irish and Canadian) with me before I left, got my birth certificate, marriage certificate, all official papers, along with tax returns.  When I arrived (Canadian passport in hand) I gathered all the papers together and made my first stop to get a tax number (PPI in Ireland).  Once you have that, there should be no issues.  Can't see this being difficult, but the Irish are very bureaucratic, so if you get the wrong person, it will take months.  Just be prepared.  An Irish passport can take months to get outside Ireland, but it's better to have it on arrival.

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