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Miss_Wiggles :

Hi there,

I too received my pre-employment security check clearance a couple of weeks ago . I have been told that contracts are being drawn up now, & that when these have been signed visas will be processed. Not yet received final contract.


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Your labour contract can be signed after joining and that will be drafted in Arabic. Now, MOL is not issuing the copy. So, don't worry.

Hi all well I am not a teacher I applied for a bartender position I'm female. I received my offer letter from etihad airways in july 22 all signed was told to do medicals all documents was sent by the 28th july. The agency (waitred) keeps intouch but keeps saying departure date is soon visa security check is almost done. I was told october would be long gone and im still here. Seems this visa issue is every where, I'm located in south Africa cape town. Its about 13 of us here waiting in visa and flights help would be great.

Hi



So I'm not clear on the next step; if pre-employmenr checks are done, what comes next ?

Miss_Wiggles :

Hi



So I'm not clear on the next step; if pre-employmenr checks are done, what comes next ?

You have no role in employment visa processing and it's the responsibility of your employer to issue the visa for you. Which means you are not the applicant, your employer is. So, don't worry :)

:)

Sorry, I'm going to be working for the Ministry of Education (public sector teaching) so the process is not identical to working in private sector I believe.

Thanks

Miss_Wiggles :

Sorry, I'm going to be working for the Ministry of Education (public sector teaching) so the process is not identical to working in private sector I believe.

Thanks

The delay in security clearance is for government sector.

hi
yes your employer will apply for the visa on your behalf and until they get it back to you...you are kinda at their behest.
good news is that when they take your passport they put you up in a nice hotel...while you get used to living here

Hello, I will be moving out to work in the UAE as a teacher too and I was wondering whether it is sociable? I am moving out alone and really excited about the job just  worried about making friends and having things to do on the weekend. Is there any opportunities to mix with other people?

Hi
I teach English to cycle2 in Ras Al Khamiah...everyones comments are pretty much how it is here...strange wonderful place....be flexible

hi
welcome to UAE
you'll probably have teachers at induction you'll hang with, then you'll meet others at the hotel you stay at...you'll meet some teachers at school
theres a brunch every friday somewhere...people are very social...we just have to be creative as the usual venues aren't readilyavailable. 
it's culture shock but if you have a good attitude you'll be fine

safe for women, just be conservative in dress and manner.  its a power struggle here, don't let them see you angry...pretend nothing matters...

Thank you so much this information has been really useful.

Also just wondering... Where do they fly you out to when you get there and do you have a choice of area where you want to work in? Sorry for all the questions.

Ashy16 :

Thank you so much this information has been really useful.

Also just wondering... Where do they fly you out to when you get there and do you have a choice of area where you want to work in? Sorry for all the questions.

Your work location will be mentioned in your offer letter. You can speak with your HR for more details.

Ashy16 :

Hello, I will be moving out to work in the UAE as a teacher too and I was wondering whether it is sociable? I am moving out alone and really excited about the job just  worried about making friends and having things to do on the weekend. Is there any opportunities to mix with other people?

There are lots of social clubs in this country and it's easy to make friends here. The best one is

internations.org

jchang, thanks so much for sharing your experience so far. It was very helpful.

My visa has finally processed and I should be set to arrive sometime in January.

Ironically, for being the thread starter I recently gave up just as the visa was arriving and took a different (and, from what I read) less stressful job.  :whistle:

Update:

I have experience working in both boys and girls school. The boys school are much more chaotic and unorganized. I believe I have strong classroom management, but I still struggled to get the students settled. It was very frustrating.

Managing a girls classroom is easier, but that's not to say it's always easy. You will still have to lay the hammer down once in a while.

Hope this helps and hope you enjoy your time while out in the UAE! Maybe our paths will cross one day

jchang82 :

The boys school are much more chaotic and unorganized. I believe I have strong classroom management, but I still struggled to get the students settled. It was very frustrating.

This was my exact fear and the very reason I decided to ultimately not go. Naughty students are one thing. Poor staff infrastructure and support are quite another and put both together.....yeah...

Hope everyone out there will enjoy their time and stack that paper!

You can live very comfortably in such salary

Hi Jchang



Thank you for your feedback on your first few weeks starting out! By any chance were you provided with a computer/laptop to work from?

Did you manage to purchase a mobile phone SIM for UAE at the airport ?

Cheers

Yes, they provide you with a ThinkPad (IBM) and I got a SIM card at the airport.

The SIM card was 100 dirhams, and you choose from 3 plans. I don't remember exactly what they are, but you can check them on the Etisalat website.

www.etisalat.ae

Much appreciated, thanks for your help and all the best

Hi miss wiggles,

Have you received your departure date?

Hi lulu



Not yet, I'm just awaiting Visa. I have been informed this will take 7 weeks +

What about yourself?

I've passed the pre employment security check, sent off my authenticated documents and received my final contract this week. I've been told I just need to wait for my entry permit now.

Have you signed your final contract yet? I'm really hoping it won't take seven weeks! My agency haven't given me any time scale. The school term ends on the 15th of December so after induction we'd only have a week of teaching if we're not going for another seven weeks 😱

I hope it takes less time, I've heard its taking 7+ weeks from my side here in the UK. If it's delayed beyond 7 weeks may be it will mean  leaving in January for the next term, I don't want this to be the case but what can we do?. Let me know how you get on with yours! All the best x

& I got my final contract this week too, nor yet signed it. Still reading it thru! My agency didn't suggest 7 weeks a few teachers who are flying over now said this is the expected wait time. I don't have the cash to be honest to delay any longer!

Fingers crossed that we're not waiting until January! I really thought we'd be there by now! I wish there was a bit more certainty so we could make arrangements while we wait. I'd take on substitute work in the time being if I knew how long I'd be waiting, especially with Christmas coming up.

Let me know how you get on!

Lulu,

My advice to you, at this rate, is 1) call the MOE contact (I can PM if you don't have their info by now) and confirm your information. They apparently never received mine in August despite having sent it in July but after I resent the machine started moving again....very slowly.

2) carry on as if this isn't happening and if something just as good/comparable comes along, say no to UAE. I finally got my clearance and was ready to go when a decent international school decided to give me an offer elsewhere and now I shall not be seeing the shores of Dubai nor dunes of Abu Dhabi.

Hi Jchang82,

Thank you your posts have been so helpful. They have really given me a clear idea of what to expect. I really appreciate your honesty. I have found the posts on here are more realistic and saying the truth than those on the MOES teachers forum.

Have many of you posted on the actual MOE'S forum which your agency should of gave you a link to? I have found no one has posted updates recently and more useful updates are on here. So thank you Jcjang82.

I am glad you are honest about the students behaviour and how some people are struggling with classroom management. You are so correct saying that this can have a detrimental impact on your enjoyment of the role and your time in the UAE.

May I ask is the 55 year old male new to teaching? who you said was struggling. Is this is first year of teaching after just qualifying?

Also may I ask are the MOE supportive in any concerns you have or queries?

Thank you for all your help Jchange 82. Your post had so much detailed which helped greatly. Thanks for taking the time to write it

Katherine

Hi Jchang82,

Thank you your posts have been so helpful. They have really given me a clear idea of what to expect. I really appreciate your honesty. I have found the posts on here are more realistic and saying the truth than those on the MOES teachers forum. I am expected to start Jan 2017

Have many of you posted on the actual MOE'S forum which your agency should of gave you a link to? I have found no one has posted updates recently and more useful updates are on here. I have a feeling the MOE are editing the posts and only want positives on their forum. So I am glad to have found this forum. So thank you Jcjang82.

I am glad you are honest about the students behaviour and how some people are struggling with classroom management. You are so correct saying that this can have a detrimental impact on your enjoyment of the role and your time in the UAE.

May I ask is the 55 year old male new to teaching? who you said was struggling. Is this his first year of teaching after just qualifying? How have female teachers coped in all girls schools?

Also may I ask are the MOE supportive in any concerns you have or queries? What do they want to see in the 3 month probation period. As this is something I am concerned about due to forking out rent up front for 6 months ect. Don't want not to pass probation and then be stuck with no job and a massive rental bill.

Thank you for all your help Jchange 82. Your post had so much detailed which helped greatly. Thanks for taking the time to write it. I appreciate the honesty

Katherine

Hi jchang82,

Do you find the management supportive and the MOE? The staff infrastructure or is it all chaotic and very new? compared to teaching in the UK or US?

I have been told HR are a nightmare to get hold off? is this true? So your queries fall to deaf ears?

How do they assess you in your probation period? Is it easy to pass?

Thank you for your help and input. Really appreciate it

Kind regards
Katherine

Hi CrabCrib,

Thank you for your posts. In your opinion is the MOE wait and unorganised system not worth going for then?
You took a better payed and more recognised job in a international school? due to the MOE project being new this year and not yet run for a while, hence the amount of change and uncertainty?

Also I have been told the MOE project is just ADEC OR ADVETI being taken over? has anyone else heard this? As I have read on forums that ADVETI is a awful company to work for?

Thank you for all your input guys and answers

Kind regards
Katherine

Hi Katherine



I'm still waiting for my visa & the agency have been very vague. I know that student behaviour is tough in some schools. I was supposed to go in September but delayed until January - again I've asked why the project is taking so long to get new hires started. They mention it is the visa / immigration department but I think they are hiring teachers in September & those that leave or quit are being replaced by new teachers in January.

I'm not filled with confidence.


Sam

Hi Sam,

Great to hear from you. This forum has been so helpful. Especially Jchang89 posts. I am glad to have read someone's posts who is actually over there and working for the MOE now.

This is a new project starting this September so there are not many past posts online at all. This forum has been the best one. MOE's forum isn't giving much away and there are no new posts at all on there. I think they have to be approved.

The lack of reply from agencies and the MOE itself is worrying. I tried to contact HR (Beena Phillips) her name is, and she never gets back to you. I think they need to understand people need to know what emirate they will be living in and working to make arrangements.

I feel like they expect you to go in blind and just hop on a plane without knowing what is going on.

I hope you hear back very soon, as they need to realise people have given up their teaching jobs in their home countries ect. we have rent/ bills to pay here ect

My visa took ages, from all these posts I have gathered everyone's does as they are processing so many at a time. My agency are Astute education and they have been vague with my questions about asking about rental costs. In the UAE landlords expect you to pay 3 to 6 months rent up front. So if you haven't got this, my agency were cagey about how I would do this. UAE loans are the answer I have read on the MOE forum.
As the MOE won't pay up front your accommodation costs.

I have a feeling the agencies just want to ship us out for their commission and not knowing or answering our questions.

Maybe your delay might be good as they should hopefully be more up and running in January than September. I have read that we should be aware of changes and unexpected last minute changes as it is a new project.

I read your last point Sam, I dread to think that is what they are doing, the hired teachers in September have left or quit and we are filling the gaps. Worrying as the project has only just started in Sept.

I have asked Jchang89 on this forum some more questions so hopefully he can fill us in as he is over there teaching now.

I feel the same Sam, I am losing confidence and belief in the MOE every day. I am meant to going at the start of Jan 2017. I am not sure now. 

Kind regards
Katherine

Hi Katherine



I hear you. I was informed $2000 would cover the first initial month, but what about the rest? I should also be going 7th Jan. My visa is not yet confirmed but they have said my flights are being looked for. Not sure why I'd rather know that I have a visa first. I am sad & disheartened about the whole thing, there's no straight forward explanation as to the delay. The Facebook forums have been helpful - they are called UAE Hopefuls 2016/17 & UAE private / public school teachers?


I asked about a HR contact but hadn't heard of your contact until now - have emailed the MOW before without a response. JChan has been helpful too with my questions! I started panicking in October when my visa delayed.


I'm also with Astute, and have recently handed in my notice with current employer. I noticed that Astute have stopped advertising for teachers with the MOE. I thought it was a big project.

I have no clue as to where I am teaching - you mentioned ADEC - they fired a lot of staff in the summer, maybe they are streamlining and taking on the rest of the UAE.


Lovely to chat with you & find out another perspective.


Samantha x

Hi the other alternative Katherine would be to hire a hotel apartment for a month at a time or find an apartment where you can pay in 12 cheques. Some exist, however the catch is you must honour paying the 12 cheques despite maybe no longer working. I doubt that would happen though, it would be quite straightforward I think for a teacher to find other work there.


Samantha

Hey everyone!

I'm responding from Sri Lanka. One of the perks of living in the UAE is the close proximity (cheap flights!) to countries.

Now that I have a semester under my belt, it's clear why I had to wait so long for my Visa and plane ticket: it's completely unorganized. All the horror stories you hear are true and behavior - especially for guys schools - are also true. The best teaching gig would be to teach the ASP stream. This is the "smart student track" and currently, it's limited to 7th grade. But I have heard rumors that it will expand to 6th thru 9th grade. So there's hope that you could get a good match of students. However, those are limited to maths, science and English.

I've asked a couple of my teacher friends out here "if you knew back then what you know now, would you still have come out to the UAE?" They all sheepishly say yes because the money is so good. Many of my friends are living out of hotel, which ranges from 3500-5500 dirhams/month (in the city of Fujairah) I actually found a one bedroom for 1000/month but it's in a small town and it came completely unfurnished - no refrigerator no air conditioner no stove. I'm a guy so I don't mind, and I'm saving a ton of $$.

As for me, I plan on staying here for another two years. I have a great situation since I'm in a girls school and teach maths in the ASP track. The curriculum is similar to the one in the US. The culture that the students are used to is quite different. A lot of the local teachers are "yellers" and they don't have the best structure when it comes to student behavior or communication. For example, a student will just shout out a question without raising their hands and the teacher will answer it anyways. This drives me nuts!! Another example, if a student does raise their hand to answer a question and they get called on, sometimes other students will yell out the answer. It's taken a lot of training for me to gety classroom the way I want it, but its totally worth it.

The forum that my agency gave me access to was really helpful. I'm not sure why it would be quiet, but I remember being active on that too.

Hope this helps! Good luck with your visa!

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