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Divorce to Saudi man

I am legally married to a saudi

This is one of the most difficult situations in my life, it's difficult to get any clear and correct advice.. Thank u to everyone who has replied and tried to help.. I have however received some conflicting answers.. I have tried to phone relevent places but no success.. It's difficult if not impossible for me to hire a lawyer.. I really need expert advice and I just want an answer to a SIMPLE question: if I divorce a saudi will I be able to reside in Saudi legally with a visa because I have saudi children?? I spoke to a lawyer on here and he said I should b able to get a visa to stay here.. but 'should' is not the same as I will.. So I don't know why I wouldn't.. So I'm worried again.. Does anyone know for sure that I will b able to abide in Saudi legally with a visa if I divorce as I have Saudi children.. Some people on here tell me something and I ask further questions and they don't reply.. Ne way thank u in advance for ne help.. I don't wish ne one to b in this situation.. Sometime I just feel like getting on a flight and leaving but scared what will happen to my children, but I'm running out of options..

1st, divorce is not solution in most times, and also continue in  un compatibly marriage also not not good solution too.

2nd, here in Saudi husband capture the kids legally "Kids attach to only father" as Sharia low :(

so, advice
talk and discuss your's kids future, and find a good deal for them, like to be with you here in Saudi till they grow up to 18, with a chance to visit father 1 day a week or more.

this solution work with the curt, or you have to prove  something if your husband is bum.

contact your embassy to help you on this case, they have a lot of same this case

Shemsa, feel sorry of the situation you are in. How are you now sister? How re things between you and your husband now? Allah SWT will never closes a door of blessing of His servant, except that He opens for the servant 2 other doors of blessing. InsyaAllah have faith in Him. Things will eventually turn out fine.

My friend has been married with a local saudi for almost 2 years now. The husband still hasnt got the gut to tell the first wife and unfairly treating my friend by not giving her the fair time to spend with him. She only got to spend few days a month with him. Allah says in the Quran “but if you fear that you will not do justice (between them), then (marry) only one…” (Surah an-Nisaa, 4:3). I hope one day her husband realized this and be fair and just to both his wives.

Pertaining my friend's case; They got married in Mecca. Her wally was there as well during the solemnization ceremony. But until today she hasnt got her iqama. Why is that happen? She said they have sent all the documents to Riyadh to process but the process seems to no end. is the process of applying iqama for foreign wive is always this long and complicated? Would appreciate for those who has the experience to share it with me thus i could advise my friend InsyaAllah.

JazakAllah Fil Khair.

May Allah help you,

I will put my advice to you in steps you follow :

1- Pray " Istekhara" before taking a decision.

2- try to repair the relation with your husband.

3- if you cannot, try to bear the relation for the seek of your children.

4- if you cannot bear it, try to stay in SA for your kids to live with you, to bring up them in a healthy way.

5- if you cannot stay, just return to your home country to feel safe and leave your kids in the hands of ALLAH.

And finally, be sure that ALLAh will make the best think for you and your kids.

A.Shaarawy :

May Allah help you,

I will put my advice to you in steps you follow :

1- Pray " Istekhara" before taking a decision.

2- try to repair the relation with your husband.

3- if you cannot, try to bear the relation for the seek of your children.

4- if you cannot bear it, try to stay in SA for your kids to live with you, to bring up them in a healthy way.

5- if you cannot stay, just return to your home country to feel safe and leave your kids in the hands of ALLAH.

And finally, be sure that ALLAh will make the best think for you and your kids.

I love you Brother  :)

aftabv :
A.Shaarawy :

May Allah help you,

I will put my advice to you in steps you follow :

1- Pray " Istekhara" before taking a decision.

2- try to repair the relation with your husband.

3- if you cannot, try to bear the relation for the seek of your children.

4- if you cannot bear it, try to stay in SA for your kids to live with you, to bring up them in a healthy way.

5- if you cannot stay, just return to your home country to feel safe and leave your kids in the hands of ALLAH.

And finally, be sure that ALLAh will make the best think for you and your kids.

I love you Brother  :)

same here bro .. that's nice from you :)

Selam aleikum,
Yes the iqama process for foreign wives is complicated and long... How long depends on each case.. My husband had to go to the interior ministry often to harass them.. I waited a long time., my advice to ur friend would be to keep praying the istiqara and not get attached to any outcome and put your trust in Allah.. not how she feels about the husband..masha Allah and Alhamdulillah it's a great blessing to live in Saudi but learning Arabic is a must to communicate with the in laws and locals otherwise you will have problems.. What you describe about her husband does not sound good.. He should have got the government permission before he married her, now she is suffering because she can't be with him and has to wait for this iqama for Allah knows best how long.. Her husband should have known this and not put her in such a bad situation.. Because I know how difficult it is for a women to be away from her husband.. She's lucky they don't have children as she needs to make sure this husband is of good character and religious obligations.. If she is facing difficulties and obstacles after praying the istiqara this May be allah pushing her away from being with this man.. And Allah knows best.. If she does get this permission and comes to live here in Saudi my advice to be very mindful of everything when she comes here. Take her time to get to know his family and make sure he's a man of faith and good character, Ie he prays in the mosque ect. After all who you start a family with is a serious decision and if you get it wrong it's the children that will suffer the most so she needs to think about her future children before anything..until she figures this man out( which may take years) under no circumstances have children otherwise she may be stuck with him and not like him and Allah knows best.. Hope this helps..ne other questions please ask

Just read that she has been married for 2 years.. Its up to her i would say if she wants to continue with this marriage or not because if she is being barmen by this marriage she is entitled to a divorce..its up to her what she wants.. But what her husbond had done is not right..does this man have seperate accommodation for her??

Thank you for ur advice sister. I always feel pity on my friend. There were time when the husband was away with his first wife for holiday he would not even dare to call or text her. Sometimes months passed without any call or textz from the husband. I know it is wrong to advise her to leave her husband. But her husband is being unjust and unfair toward hers. As a woman i feel the husband has taken advantage on her. She was deprived from her right as his wife. First wife or second wife they have an equal right in Islam. He kept on giving excuses that he was afraid he would not get the custody of his kids if the first wife later seek for divorce if she found out about the second marriage. Is it true? Because in my country the custody of the kids in normal case will be given to mother. Unless if there are proof the mother brings harm to the kids.

Akprince :

:O How you can live with someone and have kids, if you are not legally married to him? Islamically married acceptable frot of Allah not front of this country laws, because you should have any proof, how you can claim somewhere he is your husband and those are your kids, ... it's seems your situation turning to somewhere else,...

Shemsa :

Not been officially married 5 years, islamically we have been married 6 years but no proof of that

Your situation is much complicated as you are trying to tell here. If you are married without the marriage permission from the Saudi government then technically you are not recognized as his wife. Your hands are basically tied up as you cant even prove the marriage in their courts.

nada hayah :

Shemsa, feel sorry of the situation you are in. How are you now sister? How re things between you and your husband now? Allah SWT will never closes a door of blessing of His servant, except that He opens for the servant 2 other doors of blessing. InsyaAllah have faith in Him. Things will eventually turn out fine.

My friend has been married with a local saudi for almost 2 years now. The husband still hasnt got the gut to tell the first wife and unfairly treating my friend by not giving her the fair time to spend with him. She only got to spend few days a month with him. Allah says in the Quran “but if you fear that you will not do justice (between them), then (marry) only one…” (Surah an-Nisaa, 4:3). I hope one day her husband realized this and be fair and just to both his wives.

Pertaining my friend's case; They got married in Mecca. Her wally was there as well during the solemnization ceremony. But until today she hasnt got her iqama. Why is that happen? She said they have sent all the documents to Riyadh to process but the process seems to no end. is the process of applying iqama for foreign wive is always this long and complicated? Would appreciate for those who has the experience to share it with me thus i could advise my friend InsyaAllah.

JazakAllah Fil Khair.

Your friend must demand equal rights as any wife should get. In my personal opinion, she made a rather impulsive decision in marrying the Saudi because she is not aware of the laws and rules with Saudi government. Saudi men are not allowed to marry non-Saudi unless they obtain the government permission. Basically, your friend's marriage is not legally recognized in the saudi government and of course no iqama from the husband, and she wont be in his family card.

I feel the husband was trying to trick her into believing he has applied the iqama for her. I doubt if it is true. It has been almost 2 years+ now. Progress seems so stagnant. In fact arent they are supposed to back and forth to riyadh for this process? I dont see an urging efforts from the husband to expedite the process. isnt my friend is a second wife? i heard such restriction only apply for first marriage.

It is so disturbing to watch the pain she has to embrace. I really hope one day she can gather back the strength and move on. To the law she is still an outsider, even she is married to local guy. Without a whole-hearted support from the husband the path wont be easy for her. Her suffering embodied in the fact the she has no legal rights on the husband. The saddest reality when the husband only treated her like a mistress. Only came and met her whenever he felt convenient. How low the value of my friend to her husband's eyes. Now it is almost 2 months she hasnt met him because her husband is now having a sweet time with the first wife and kids at nearby country.

I still remember the talk given by Dr Muhammad Salah in the youtube. He advised all the women if the guy want to make the marriage secret from the first wife, do not marry him. Because later, it is the second wife that will suffer the most. If the husband has to make a choice between the two, always the second wife will not make the cut.

May Allah soften the husband's heart. This is not how Islam wants the husband to treat the wife. Shame on the husband for smearing the good name of Islam. The non-muslim will say that this is the teaching of Islam. Polygamy is oppressing the women. When in fact, the polygamy is a wisdom from Allah to  help women and safeguard their chastity. It is ppl that abused it.

nada hayah :

I feel the husband was trying to trick her into believing he has applied the iqama for her. I doubt if it is true. It has been almost 2 years+ now. Progress seems so stagnant. In fact arent they are supposed to back and forth to riyadh for this process? I dont see an urging efforts from the husband to expedite the process. isnt my friend is a second wife? i heard such restriction only apply for first marriage.

It is so disturbing to watch the pain she has to embrace. I really hope one day she can gather back the strength and move on. To the law she is still an outsider, even she is married to local guy. Without a whole-hearted support from the husband the path wont be easy for her. Her suffering embodied in the fact the she has no legal rights on the husband. The saddest reality when the husband only treated her like a mistress. Only came and met her whenever he felt convenient. How low the value of my friend to her husband's eyes. Now it is almost 2 months she hasnt met him because her husband is now having a sweet time with the first wife and kids at nearby country.

I still remember the talk given by Dr Muhammad Salah in the youtube. He advised all the women if the guy want to make the marriage secret from the first wife, do not marry him. Because later, it is the second wife that will suffer the most. If the husband has to make a choice between the two, always the second wife will not make the cut.

May Allah soften the husband's heart. This is not how Islam wants the husband to treat the wife. Shame on the husband for smearing the good name of Islam. The non-muslim will say that this is the teaching of Islam. Polygamy is oppressing the women. When in fact, the polygamy is a wisdom from Allah to  help women and safeguard their chastity. It is ppl that abused it.

Is your friend married to this Saudi who obtained a marriage permission to marry her being a non saudi? If not, she will never be under the sponsorship of the Saudi husband. My husband applied for marriage permission at the Emarah only, not in Riyadh. But alhamdullilah all went through as we wanted it to be and granted the permission. I will not accept any less than I deserve so I told him beforehand that I wont be some sort of a kept secret stashed somewhere else and will not throw my life into someone who wont value my worth. I hope your friend will see some light into her situation.

I asked her whether they have the permission from the Saudi government for this marriage. The husband said yes he did. Otherwise the Qadi in Mecca would not do the Nikah. I am not sure how true was the story. Anyway what is Emarah? Is it a ministry that my friend has to seek permission from for the marriage. And if later found out the husband was lying, what are suggestions for my friend to fight for her marriage legality? She tried to ask for divorce from the husband before but the husband refused to divorce her. She cant see any way out for her problem now. If she wants to file their marriage in our country there should be any documentation as a proof for the marriage. Problem; there is no documentation. She cant ask for fasakh either if the marriage is not recognize in our country.

nada hayah :

I asked her whether they have the permission from the Saudi government for this marriage. The husband said yes he did. Otherwise the Qadi in Mecca would not do the Nikah. I am not sure how true was the story. Anyway what is Emarah? Is it a ministry that my friend has to seek permission from for the marriage. And if later found out the husband was lying, what are suggestions for my friend to fight for her marriage legality? She tried to ask for divorce from the husband before but the husband refused to divorce her. She cant see any way out for her problem now. If she wants to file their marriage in our country there should be any documentation as a proof for the marriage. Problem; there is no documentation. She cant ask for fasakh either if the marriage is not recognize in our country.

Emarah is like the regional level for the MOI. Saudi can submit their application on their region or directly in Riyadh. The emarah then will be the one to submit it to MOI in Riyadh. Aftet the permission was granted, my husband went to Riyadh and directed to Foreign Affairs to get the visa application number for me. I was not in Saudi at the time he processed things so this visa application was forwarded to the Saudi embassy in Philippines and my husband complied the requirements for me to be given that visa to enter Saudi. After which, he had our marriage registered here in saudi and was issued iqama; and added to his family card. My husband showed me the paper of the permission even it was all in Arabic.

zawja :
nada hayah :

I asked her whether they have the permission from the Saudi government for this marriage. The husband said yes he did. Otherwise the Qadi in Mecca would not do the Nikah. I am not sure how true was the story. Anyway what is Emarah? Is it a ministry that my friend has to seek permission from for the marriage. And if later found out the husband was lying, what are suggestions for my friend to fight for her marriage legality? She tried to ask for divorce from the husband before but the husband refused to divorce her. She cant see any way out for her problem now. If she wants to file their marriage in our country there should be any documentation as a proof for the marriage. Problem; there is no documentation. She cant ask for fasakh either if the marriage is not recognize in our country.

Emarah is like the regional level for the MOI. Saudi can submit their application on their region or directly in Riyadh. The emarah then will be the one to submit it to MOI in Riyadh. Aftet the permission was granted, my husband went to Riyadh and directed to Foreign Affairs to get the visa application number for me. I was not in Saudi at the time he processed things so this visa application was forwarded to the Saudi embassy in Philippines and my husband complied the requirements for me to be given that visa to enter Saudi. After which, he had our marriage registered here in saudi and was issued iqama; and added to his family card. My husband showed me the paper of the permission even it was all in Arabic.

Sorry havent got a chance to get back to u. Really appreciate ur efforts of sharing it here. My friend seems clueless on the procedures. But at least ur advice shed some lights on her.

JazakAllah Fil Khair Sister.

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