3 Year TRC (Temporary Residence Card) without work permit

When expatviet first posted his #150 denying even the existence of the spousal TRC I looked at it quickly and wrote it off as not worthy of consideration, but since it has attracted attention from even the moderators, I took another look.  Although his bio is a little confusing expatviet would seem to be a Viet Kieu.  The bio says that he is living in Vietnam but the post is written in a way that leads me to think that at least for now, he is in the US.  He makes repeated references to  Vietnamese embassy outside of the country and the fact that they decline to give the spousal TRC.  In a way this makes perfect sense as the embassy can grant a visa but how could it grant a residency card to someone who is in the US?  You apply for a residency card where you are a resident.  Whether they actually deny its existence or simply decline to deal with it, I do not know, but it does make sense that they would not be in a position to issue it.

Another evidence of his confusion, and ours as caused by him, is that he refers to the "The Hanoi Embassy staff" not being able to investigate the validity of work related TRC's.  Someone should tell him that there is no Vietnamese embassy in Hanoi.

I suspect that he went to the Vietnamese Embassy in Washington DC and was told no TRC is available and now has extrapolated his being declined to the entire process.

Sounds like the probable explanation behind the post with confusion and ignorance being the drivers rather than an attempt at mischief.

Yes - I agree with you 100%.
It is a shame that people don't check their facts before needlessly confusing people in an already confusing situation!
The plain and simple fact is
that Spousal TRC is available to those who qualify.

In addition to my speculation that expatviet may have been outside the country when he inquired about the family TRC, I also would like to inquire whether the family TRC is even available to him at all.  The original post by Charmavietnamstates that the TRC is available to "foreigners who are parents, spouses and children of Vietnamese citizens."  This would not seem to include VK but those may be his words and not taken from an official document.  On the card shown to us by Charma there is nothing said about the qualifiers. 

For a male VK, in all likelihood, his spouse is also a citizen of another country.  However, he may perhaps be sponsored by another relative.  In the case of expatviet, he may have no relatives or at least none that will speak to him.   :mad:  I have posited the "no relatives" situation to my wife in relation to other situations but she couldn't even wrap her head around the idea of a Viet person having no relatives.  It is more plausible in a refugee situation.

Can anyone out there weigh in definitively as to whether the family related TRC is available to Viet Kieu?  I know there are several VK living in Vietnam, sort of double expats, who are good contributors.  Have any of you tried to obtain the family TRC?  I was once chastised here that this site is for expats living in Vietnam, but that should not exclude VK who are by definition expats.

My personal interest in this is that, although it seems that both the US and VN seem to tacitly allow dual citizenship, on paper they do not.  After my wife becomes a US citizen in about a year, the family TRC may be an alternative for both both her and my retirement if VN decides to press on the issue of no dual citizenship.

It seems so many days will take to reach TOMORROW in Mauritius :D

I liked that one.  Perhaps they just concluded that the post in question was as Cabraman said, based on "confusion and ignorance" rather than "an attempt at mischief."  Anyone who reads even a little more than that one post should figure out pretty quickly who to listen to.

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