Vegetarian? Grown where?

Hi Jaitch,

That's what I feel sad about Vietnamese. They kill each other because of profit and then claim "Chinese is bad". Sometimes I doubt if poisonous China products are for exporting only.

I know a family. They bought a farm in Da Lat and this farms supply some fruits and vegetables for them and all of their relatives in HCM. That's a good way. To me, I just eat certain vegetables in the hope that I will die slower than the others.

I know Binh Dien market. The vegetables are transported from the west of VN at 9-10am everyday. I didn't see potatoes and fruits there. It's surprised for me to know that this market also sell bad china products!

Thanks mossie that is all very usefull information

Dejavu.dot wrote:

They kill each other because of profit and then claim "Chinese is bad". Sometimes I doubt if poisonous China products are for exporting only.

At least, with the Chinese, they are not fussy who they make sick - they are equal opportunity people. They kill plenty of their own.

What concerns me is that another 90,000 TONS of bad US beef has been recalled, a single batch of meat that was processed in one day! 90,000 TONS! I can't even imagine what that amount even looks like.

And what if this had been exported? Would they have recalled it or would they have let it sail on to it's destination? Container ships don't reverse course.

And it happens everywhere. Last year Tesco's, an international supermarket, was selling minced beef that was found to contain HORSE, DONKEY, WILD BOAR and some UNIDENTIFIED 'ROAD KILL' plus even some beef - and this was after it had been through several inspections and was only found at retail by Health Inspectors - this was in England!

That's what I'm so sad about us.

We have thousands of people have to go hospital everyday because of cancer, which I believe that caused by those kinds of food. My ex-staff died 2 weeks ago because of cancer at her 30. She was so young and had just asked me how to improve her skills. I was almost shocked cause she died only 1 month after the cancer discovered. At the moment, I'm raising fund to help another young girl (26 yo) in Danang to fight with her cancer. People came to me to get help cause I'm doing charity and many of cases are cancer. I was successful once with a 5yo boy and raised fund enough to cure him in Singapore for nearly 3 years. He came back to Vietnam 1 years ago & continues life of a normal boy. But not all cases are successful.

I blame all of them to VN government for trying to lower people mind and intelligence (it's a complicated long story) to easily manipulate whole country. The ridiculous story about Chinese trying to poison Vietnamese came from them, I believe. One of the results is those uneducated poor farmers have nothing else to do but do any thing to bring bread to their home. Some years they have to throw away their products in stead of selling them even double time lower than the cost to raise them. What should they do if they spend most of their time & money into their farm and die because of that? What should they do if they are the only musketeer in the area where other farmers use poison to raise their products and easily get more than them? Poverty plus indifference caused by low education is a disaster for the whole country, except for the government's related people.

My friends had a project 5 years ago. She was working in a global company in Singapore with more than USD3000/month salary. But she wanted to help Vietnamese. She came back to Vietnam, trained farmers and hired them to raise organic vegetable & fruits on their land where she rented them. But it was a disaster.
- She couldn't rent the whole area and couldn't afford to protect the products cause of impact from other farms that didn't do organic.
- And her farmers was too lazy/low educational to do the jobs.
- She couldn't have enough money to raise all kinds of vegetable/fruits. Customers wanted to ask tomatoes, they suggested carrot.
- There wasn't enough people with good heard, good knowledge/experience/skill to work with her. She even lacked of business management, marketing skills to run the business. She is only a biologist + chemist.
Then she broke.

I'm "drawing" the idea of doing organic. Buying a farm in Bao Loc and doing there. Bao Loc is closer to HCMC than Dalat but the environment & atmosphere are similar to Dalat, which is good for vege & fruits. Products are fresher if it takes shorter time to transport & farmers there are easier to work with in many aspects. It will be delivered door to door to registered customers. The rest of products will be used in restaurants/coffee shops of project, where train/hire poor students. They are hubs of other charity & media projects, too. 

Healthcare & beauty is the most caring issue nowadays among wealthy people. But it's a long way to go cause I have no knowledge of this field, just have small experience of doing marketing & running business of it and a long list of valued customers I know. I have to wait for a real good pilot then go ahead with investment or I'll wait for someone to lead it and I'll help.

If anyone in this forum happen to do this project, I'm glad I can help.

Scarletvn wrote:

That's what I'm so sad about us.

We have thousands of people have to go hospital everyday because of cancer, which I believe that caused by those kinds of food. My ex-staff died 2 weeks ago because of cancer at her 30. She was so young and had just asked me how to improve her skills. I was almost shocked cause she died only 1 month after the cancer discovered. At the moment, I'm raising fund to help another young girl (26 yo) in Danang to fight with her cancer. People came to me to get help cause I'm doing charity and many of cases are cancer. I was successful once with a 5yo boy and raised fund enough to cure him in Singapore for nearly 3 years. He came back to Vietnam 1 years ago & continues life of a normal boy. But not all cases are successful.

I blame all of them to VN government for trying to lower people mind and intelligence (it's a complicated long story) to easily manipulate whole country. The ridiculous story about Chinese trying to poison Vietnamese came from them, I believe. One of the results is those uneducated poor farmers have nothing else to do but do any thing to bring bread to their home. Some years they have to throw away their products in stead of selling them even double time lower than the cost to raise them. What should they do if they spend most of their time & money into their farm and die because of that? What should they do if they are the only musketeer in the area where other farmers use poison to raise their products and easily get more than them? Poverty plus indifference caused by low education is a disaster for the whole country, except for the government's related people.

My friends had a project 5 years ago. She was working in a global company in Singapore with more than USD3000/month salary. But she wanted to help Vietnamese. She came back to Vietnam, trained farmers and hired them to raise organic vegetable & fruits on their land where she rented them. But it was a disaster.
- She couldn't rent the whole area and couldn't afford to protect the products cause of impact from other farms that didn't do organic.
- And her farmers was too lazy/low educational to do the jobs.
- She couldn't have enough money to raise all kinds of vegetable/fruits. Customers wanted to ask tomatoes, they suggested carrot.
- There wasn't enough people with good heard, good knowledge/experience/skill to work with her. She even lacked of business management, marketing skills to run the business. She is only a biologist + chemist.
Then she broke.

I'm "drawing" the idea of doing organic. Buying a farm in Bao Loc and doing there. Bao Loc is closer to HCMC than Dalat but the environment & atmosphere are similar to Dalat, which is good for vege & fruits. Products are fresher if it takes shorter time to transport & farmers there are easier to work with in many aspects. It will be delivered door to door to registered customers. The rest of products will be used in restaurants/coffee shops of project, where train/hire poor students. They are hubs of other charity & media projects, too. 

Healthcare & beauty is the most caring issue nowadays among wealthy people. But it's a long way to go cause I have no knowledge of this field, just have small experience of doing marketing & running business of it and a long list of valued customers I know. I have to wait for a real good pilot then go ahead with investment or I'll wait for someone to lead it and I'll help.

If anyone in this forum happen to do this project, I'm glad I can help.

I'm sure HBMax would be delighted to invest in this project, he says how much he likes VN and VN's .

In other countries when I buy fruit, they are stamped - much in the way eggs are - with identification of source, etc. If they can stamp fragile eggs, they sure can do it with fruit.

But, the importers say, stamps spoil the appearance of the fruit! This is bull***t.

There is absolutely no incentive from the docks to the retail customer to improve the situation - every thing depends on the National Assembly to act.

I have been knocked for saying HCM Peoples Committee Health Department does it's job - believe me, they earn their salaries. They are out checking trucks roadside whilst citizens are sleeping.

These guys are the only line of defence between bad food and severe effects including death.

Scarletvn wrote:

That's what I'm so sad about us.

We have thousands of people have to go hospital everyday because of cancer, which I believe that caused by those kinds of food. My ex-staff died 2 weeks ago because of cancer at her 30. She was so young and had just asked me how to improve her skills. I was almost shocked cause she died only 1 month after the cancer discovered. At the moment, I'm raising fund to help another young girl (26 yo) in Danang to fight with her cancer. People came to me to get help cause I'm doing charity and many of cases are cancer. I was successful once with a 5yo boy and raised fund enough to cure him in Singapore for nearly 3 years. He came back to Vietnam 1 years ago & continues life of a normal boy. But not all cases are successful.

I blame all of them to VN government for trying to lower people mind and intelligence (it's a complicated long story) to easily manipulate whole country. The ridiculous story about Chinese trying to poison Vietnamese came from them, I believe. One of the results is those uneducated poor farmers have nothing else to do but do any thing to bring bread to their home. Some years they have to throw away their products in stead of selling them even double time lower than the cost to raise them. What should they do if they spend most of their time & money into their farm and die because of that? What should they do if they are the only musketeer in the area where other farmers use poison to raise their products and easily get more than them? Poverty plus indifference caused by low education is a disaster for the whole country, except for the government's related people.

My friends had a project 5 years ago. She was working in a global company in Singapore with more than USD3000/month salary. But she wanted to help Vietnamese. She came back to Vietnam, trained farmers and hired them to raise organic vegetable & fruits on their land where she rented them. But it was a disaster.
- She couldn't rent the whole area and couldn't afford to protect the products cause of impact from other farms that didn't do organic.
- And her farmers was too lazy/low educational to do the jobs.
- She couldn't have enough money to raise all kinds of vegetable/fruits. Customers wanted to ask tomatoes, they suggested carrot.
- There wasn't enough people with good heard, good knowledge/experience/skill to work with her. She even lacked of business management, marketing skills to run the business. She is only a biologist + chemist.
Then she broke.

I'm "drawing" the idea of doing organic. Buying a farm in Bao Loc and doing there. Bao Loc is closer to HCMC than Dalat but the environment & atmosphere are similar to Dalat, which is good for vege & fruits. Products are fresher if it takes shorter time to transport & farmers there are easier to work with in many aspects. It will be delivered door to door to registered customers. The rest of products will be used in restaurants/coffee shops of project, where train/hire poor students. They are hubs of other charity & media projects, too. 

Healthcare & beauty is the most caring issue nowadays among wealthy people. But it's a long way to go cause I have no knowledge of this field, just have small experience of doing marketing & running business of it and a long list of valued customers I know. I have to wait for a real good pilot then go ahead with investment or I'll wait for someone to lead it and I'll help.

If anyone in this forum happen to do this project, I'm glad I can help.

I want to do an Agricultural Business if I still live in VN in some years. There is no union system in VN.  I may need your advices when I make sure everything to set up the company.

Jaitch wrote:

In other countries when I buy fruit, they are stamped - much in the way eggs are - with identification of source, etc. If they can stamp fragile eggs, they sure can do it with fruit.

I also see there are many stamps on the apples I buy from Metro. Better to cut that part before eating. The label looks fake.