Dear friends,

May be some of you knows and can help me with the suggestion. I was shifting an appartment recently and my previous landlord is not giving back to me my deposit. He is not picking up the phone not replying. But recently he replyed he will not be returning the deposit because he doesnt have money which is of course not true. May be someone can suggest what do I do in this case, how can I forse him to return the money back to me?

Thank you.

Difficult one. If you broke your lease i.e. you signed for 1 year and left before, you have no rights as you broke the contract. Unfortunately the best way to do this stuff is to stop paying a couple of months before you leave. You could try a solicitors letter, but you would need to be in the right in how you left the tenancy. If you have dealt with an property agent when you saw the place and chose it, perhaps they can also help. Much depends on what is the wording of the tenancy agreement.

Dear Gravitas, thank you kindly for your reply. Actually I didn't brake my lease contract. I stayed 1 year and when I was moving out my land lord was checking everything and that was fine but also he was saying he will return my deposit back after he will receive all the bills. So it had already been 1 month and I am still waiting and now he says that he doesn't have money...

masha_, did you rent through an agent? Agent should be able to help you. If you did not use agent and can not get through with negotiations with the landlord, you may need to hire a lawyer. Maybe someone else here can suggest a good lawyer.

Hi Masha. I have the same problem. In fact I haven't got the security or utility deposit back after 4 months. The landlord is claiming for things, but will not provide any details. My agent is shocked and recommended a lawyer. The lawyer says that if it goes to litigation it will cost more than the deposit. What really irritates me most is that this guy will most likely get away with it and do it all over again. I really feel that there should at least be some sort of bad landlord list available to those looking to rent. No self respecting agent would wish to deal with a landlord like this.

Happens a lot in kl. Many scummy landlords and agents. Nothing you can do

If you are still saying in Kuala Lumpur, you can try by making a call to landlord/lady with strong threatening words with legal consequences.
I do not know, which condominium you lived in. But, if you lived in Suasana Sentral Condominium,KL Sentral, then it will be a difficult talk if your condo owner was any Chinese Landlady.

Please, never ever rent the condominium A-16-08. We understand the landlady stays in Hong Kong and the condominium is handled by her sister in Kuala Lumpur. The modes of operation somewhat like this.
1.The Broker Mr.Steven will be involved at the beginning.
2.After showing you the house, he will try to lock you in by taking the advance money and assure that the defects will be made up before you come in and you will find that few of the defects will be done with makeshift arrangement. Few will be said by Steven that these are fair wear and tear , hence do not worry.
3.Landlady's sister will come and take the balance money and sign the agreement. She will never see your problems.
4.When you want to vacate the house, the broker will be totally out of picture and the landlady's sister literally comes with microscope to find the defects.
5.The lady will show the same mistakes which you have pointed out to the broker at the time of taking the rental. Now, the same defects will be made up of with your own money( This figure sometimes goes beyond your deposit money).

If you have already taken Condo A block, 16 floor, unit-8 , Suasana Sentral condominium as rental, then be rest assured that you will not be paid back your 2.5 months rental.
-You will definitely get a hike of 10% after 1st year though option of renewal after 1st year is available. The landlady will just say 2-3 days before last date of 1st year. You are under pressure to accept her demand of enhanced rental.

The best solution is not to pay the rental of last 2 months.

All the best if any one stays there and alert for all future tenants.

Well you could post all over the net  :thanks:  about bad landlords.

But end up being sued for deformation !

Someone snatches our money we can not go to court for justice. But should we be scared of defamation for telling the truth.

My name is Alex and I will move to KL in 10 days. I teach for raffles college. Have hard time to find the right agent. I looking for room or apartment to rent or share. Just to ask if you know any room to rent. Alex

Situation is bad. I got cheated out of security in One Soho Apartment recently. My advice to anyone who is looking to dont rent there

Greedy landlords are not just at One Soho Apartment, they can be everywhere, and also many landlords own units in several condominium buildings as it is wise to spread out their investments.

While some landlords might be accused of being cheating, but there are two sides to every story. Some tenants pay rent consistently late, or bring in their friends who sleep on the sofas or put mattresses on the floor. Some sublet to foreign workers so when a landlord thinks he is renting to a nice family it actually turns out that he may have 8 or 10 foreign workers living in his apartment.

Then there are tenants who don't pay their water bills, and who cause damage to the apartment, or steal the TV and microwave. Some tenants try to use up their security deposits by not paying the last two months rent of their contract. Some particularly nasty ones stop paying rent almost as soon as they move into an apartment, knowing that the landlord can do nothing about it except to take on a lawyer which will take at least 6 months before the tenant can be forced out. During that time the landlord cannot do anything at all. Even trying to talk to the tenant could result in a police report against them.

In fact there are so many ways that tenants take advantage of landlords and sometimes the landlord will end up losing money.

So the advice of being careful with landlords works both ways. Landlords need to be particularly careful of who they rent out their apartments to.

Can you please provide more details on the issue such as whether your tenancy agreement had expired or have you moved though your tenancy agreement still valid. Id tenancy agreement is still valid then it is difficult to get back your money and it all depends on the owner and the clauses that are there in the tenancy agreement.

What is the agent suggestion and I believe that agent should take care of these things


call me, i have few friends in kl. i believe they can help u


In general, the Agent is more on the side of the landlord because it is the landlord who pays their commission. And, the Agent won't want to give the landlord a hard time.

At the same time, whatever is written in the Tenancy Agreement needs to be read carefully and in nearly all tenancy agreements that I have seen there is usually a clause stating that the landlord will return the deposits minus costs for any outstanding bills, damages to the apartment or furniture etc on completion of the contract.

So, if you haven't completed the contract, or caused any damage to the apartment or furniture etc, the landlord does have the right to deduct form the deposit.  And the amount is really up to him. It is very difficult to take landlord to court for this, it will cost you quite a lot of money, lawyers charge for each of the the three letters sent to the landlord and then a lot more for a Court Summons, and the landlord can keep delaying his appearance, so that finally you might end up losing as much as you believe you are owed in costs and wasted time.

Honestly, unless the amount is considerable, then I would let it go.

Personally I have kept over RM13k+ from a British tenant who had made some alterations in the apartment, taken some items, and hadn't given me the three months required notice in writing and who had already lived in my apartment for more than 4 years. The reason I did that was because he became unpleasant and cocky and I didn't like it. The deposit that I kept was all legal and mainly covered the notice period that he didn't give.

But more importantly, this thread is almost 2 years old. The original poster has obviously already moved on.

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