Winter fuel payment UK

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winter fuel payment . .

dont know if this wil work
worth a punt tho

Ive just been posted this via Facebook very interesting may or may not do any good but worth a try:

08 January 2015

British Expats in Cyprus and other countries too.... have been given notice, that as from September 2015, they will no longer be eligible to claim Winter Fuel Payments from the British Government. This has outraged the British Expats in Cyprus and also other British Expats in those other countries affected.

We have been sent a possible loophole in the Statutory Instrument, the piece of legislation that the British Government has used to take away the Winter Fuel Payment.

There is a parliamentary technique which is rarely used to halt the implementation of the Statutory Instrument, otherwise known as a (prayer). It has to be activated within 40 days of the tabling of the Statutory Instrument.

In order to have a chance of overturning the Statutory Instrument, the clerk must receive a large number of submissions, then action may be taken to stop the implementation.

You must send an email to the clerk – Work & Pensions Committee [email protected]

You may use the following text:

Dear Madam. Please convey the following message immediately to the Committee.

To members of the Select Committee for Work & Pensions

It is urged that a ‘prayer' an EDM as follows is laid before parliament before the 24th January (40 days after the SI was laid)

Early Day Motion (prayer)

Winter Fuel Payment to British Citizens in EU countries.

The Statutory Instrument 2014 No. 3270 (laid before PARLIAMENT on the 15th December 2014 restricting payment to pensioners residing in countries incorrectly called by the DWP ‘hot' of the EU should be annulled. After the General Election, the matter may then be appropriately reconsidered by the new Parliament.

1. It discriminates against certain groups of British Citizen pensioners residing in certain States of the EU, some of whom are already in financial difficulties.

2. This SI almost certainly contravenes the UK treaty agreement with the EU on social security co-ordination.


This is a lifeline to stop the British government discriminating against the British Expats in Cyprus. If you wish to keep your Winter Fuel Payment, this may be your last chance, and you must send the email now.

if you want it fight for it...

if i respond with what i really think ill be told off for being political .. so lets just say that i dont agree

As far as I'm concerned, if you don't live in the UK you shouldn't get it.
Why should anyone who doesn't live there. 

What a complete and utter nonsense , just another blatant abuse of the UK's overly " generous " benefits system !!! - if you don't live in the UK , then sorry me old muckers , you ain't entitled to it !!!! 😳💪

redmik wrote:

As far as I'm concerned, if you don't live in the UK you shouldn't get it.
Why should anyone who doesn't live there. 

Perhaps because we pay in all our working lives so we can get the benefits when we retire!!

The fact that we live in another country should have nothing to do with it.

Terry

Moyes14 wrote:

What a complete and utter nonsense , just another blatant abuse of the UK's overly " generous " benefits system !!! - if you don't live in the UK , then sorry me old muckers , you ain't entitled to it !!!! 😳💪

So why don't they stop our pensions as well ?


Terry

Remember that some retired expats still pay UK tax.

Its discrimination based on the impression that as we no longer live in the UK , we don't need to heat our houses in Winter.

Terry

EDITED

I read the whole thread, deciding it was too political, so I thought it better  not to join in.

Fred wrote:

EDITED

I read the whole thread, deciding it was too political, so I thought it better  not to join in.

Good   

If people don't need it, they shouldn't get it. 'To each according to their need'..........and it is nothing to do with pensions.
People in the UK need it far more than expats living in warmer climates.
And yes, I pay my taxes to the UK.

The UK is in enough debt as it is and tough decisions have to be made , sorry about that ex-pat folks but when push comes to shove and it's a choice between say , cutting NHS funding , defence spending etc etc , then funding a winter fuel allowance for nationals living overseas has got to go !!!! - not popular I'm sure but sorry about that !!!!

What about cutting ANY benefits to non EU  arrivals who have paid nothing into the system whatsoever.

Some who have chosen to move to  a COLDER climate than their country of birth.

That would save billions. 

I feel the cold more in Malta in the winter than I ever did in the UK! (I'm older and the houses are much less winter proof).

Whats next, refusing to give pension increase because we live in a country with lower cost of living?

Its a benefit for UK pensioners and I am  a UK pensioner!!

Terry

what next - stop pensions as well and be done with it... in fact stop paying any benefits to pensioners - a common misconception that they are all well off and can afford it.. why not stop paying the millions over to foreign aid and stupid arts projects.. save millions and start to look after our own - the poor, the homeless, the disabled, the pensioners and the armed forces maimed disabled and returned war veterans - charity begins at home simple look aftee our own first and if anything left offer it....

For a Tory/Liberal Government, this is quite a socialist thing to do, distributing wealth on the basis of need.
It may even leave more resources for those that are even more in need.
It's not as if we had/have no choice that we live abroad is it?
It pains me to agree with the current Government but in this case, I do.

redmik wrote:

For a Tory/Liberal Government, this is quite a socialist thing to do, distributing wealth on the basis of need.
It may even leave more resources for those that are even more in need.
It's not as if we had/have no choice that we live abroad is it?
It pains me to agree with the current Government but in this case, I do.

The point is we have a choice and should not be penalised or disenfranchised for making it !
I served in two conflicts aimed at allowing people choice.

Now that choice is being restricted by deliberately reducing my income, some may feel that moving to a country with  a lower cost of living is the only choice to get the maximum out a small pension. 

Its not the amount but the principal that because I choose to live abroad somehow I become a lower class of pensioner.

By living in another country I already greatly reduce the burden on the UK.

Perhaps they could save money by reducing the armed forces pensions to those who choose to  live abroad, after all they are showing a disloyalty to the Queen by choosing not to live in the country that provides the pension!!   

Terry

Now that is stretching the argument beyond the realms of the ridiculous.
And still has nothing to do with pensions, State or otherwise. Per Ardua.

JUST FOR ARGUEMNTS SAKE

"Perhaps they could save money by reducing the armed forces pensions to those who choose to  live abroad, after all they are showing a disloyalty to the Queen by choosing not to live in the country that provides the pension!! "

perhaps we should stop all pensions as disloyalty to the country who is paying you that pension and not spending it in the country that provides it.....

Not all pensions are non contributory so that would be theft from those that are contributory.
State Pension is contributory so to stop that would be theft.

6 MPs ALREADY ONSIDE  - you dont have long to do this - so get at your MPs and let them know how you feel about this

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/pers … -cuts.html

Yep that's for arguments sake. Won't rise to it ..