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Has anyone gone through the simplified naturalization precedure?

futpar :
jesperss :

Ignore the "phone call" stories. Either your application will be approved or denied. If the consulate/embassy decides to accept it there is a 95% chance you'll be approved.

That's reassuring, jesperss, thanks.

The consulate submitted my application late last year, and I'm still waiting to hear. Anyone know what the turnaround time for applications is now? I read somewhere that Budapest changed which office is processing them, as of the beginning of this year. Has that maybe slowed things down?

How long did it take people to hear back?

do you have a contact at the consulate? I was told to call or email if I had any questions about the status.

futpar :
jesperss :

Ignore the "phone call" stories. Either your application will be approved or denied. If the consulate/embassy decides to accept it there is a 95% chance you'll be approved.

That's reassuring, jesperss, thanks.

The consulate submitted my application late last year, and I'm still waiting to hear. Anyone know what the turnaround time for applications is now? I read somewhere that Budapest changed which office is processing them, as of the beginning of this year. Has that maybe slowed things down?

How long did it take people to hear back?

Usually around nine months, give or take a couple months

Verification is longer

superkitebr - I've found it extremely difficult to reach anyone by phone, and the answers I get when I eventually get through are contradictory and consistently wrong. I even asked a Hungarian friend to call and she couldn't do any better. I get better and more accurate info from people on this board who've been through the process than I get from any official source. Sadly, I've learned the hard way not to trust what the consulates tell me. It has rarely been accurate.

Thanks as always, jesperss. But I don't understand what you mean by "verification is longer." Verification? Do you mean people applying by descent who need the chain of citizenship verified?

Yes, simplified takes approximately half the time

That is correct.  Strange but true.
Simp nat takes half the time vs verification of descendant/blood parents grandparents in present day HU
Other countries it's opposite.
Oh well.  Citizenship is always complex but it should be as it's worth more than many really know.

futpar :

when I eventually get through are contradictory and consistently wrong.

For what it is worth, don't feel bad or think you have it especially hard. This is also a very common problem most anywhere here in Hungary as well.

Just to explain the logic between the difference in processing time, Simplified Naturalization was intended to be just that, simplified, and a separate bureaucratic process was set-up to handle applications in a relatively streamlined way.

The difference isn't just timimg. For example, most non-Hungarian official documents need to be "legalized" under citizenship verification, but that's not necessary under Simplified Naturalization; you just present your birth and marriage certificates as issued, translated but without legalization.

The fun begins when you have to get res card, TAJ card, tax number etc.  that was more difficult than simp nat.  Glad I'm done everything.  Now If Budapest overpriced apt would drop in value so I can buy:)

Thanks for the elaborations, everyone. That's very useful perspective on the various issues. As I said in my previous post, the people on this board have been extremely helpful and informative. Thank you all.

I thought simplified naturalization was "simplified" relative to the onerous regular naturalization procedures, including the famously difficult citizenship exam. I didn't realize applying by descent was that time-consuming and administratively complex.

I was very relieved to find out I didn't need to get everything apostilled for simplified naturalization, it's an expensive and time-consuming process in the various jurisdictions where my documents are located. But unfortunately the consulate gave me wrong info on that to begin with and I wasted several hundred and quite a few months having it done before I found out from people here who'd been through the process that I didn't need to get apostilles.

Which is just one example of how helpful people on this board can be.

Hello everyone I would like to ask that I applied for simplified naturalization at the embassy of Hungary in Beirut and successfully passed my interview. My question is that will they notify me after 3 month that my application is accepted and how long is the waiting period for any update. Will be more than glad to hear from you.

Regards to all

futpar, sorry to hear about your not-so-good experiences. Hopefully, nothing like that will come up for me.

Jess, it depends on the origin of your documents. My gr-grandmother's birth certificate had to be officially translated by OFFI. Then I had a few more documents that I had to get apostiled. Then, when I gave the apostiled documents to the consulate, I had to pay a "legalization" fee. Talk about expensive for just a few documents.

Omar1982 :

Hello everyone I would like to ask that I applied for simplified naturalization at the embassy of Hungary in Beirut and successfully passed my interview. My question is that will they notify me after 3 month that my application is accepted and how long is the waiting period for any update. Will be more than glad to hear from you.

Regards to all

I also have the same question.

And let  me add to that, can you apply for a passport the moment you get your certificate of citzienship? If all my stuff gets approved, I'm going to have to go to a very big and dangerous city that is far away.  It would be very convenient if I could fill out the form and take the pictures with me there...

And does anyone know if they mail the passport to you, or you have to go back and get it?

blonder :

The fun begins when you have to get res card, TAJ card, tax number etc.  that was more difficult than simp nat.  Glad I'm done everything.  Now If Budapest overpriced apt would drop in value so I can buy:)

have you been living there? Your Hungarian must be pretty good.

I signed up for Hungarianpod today. Their evaluation test (which isn't long enough, IMO) gave me intermediate. I keep studying because I want to get to the level where I can talk about everything. I need something where I can practice every day. Hopefully their platform supports that. Does anyone know?

This 2nd time around, it's hard to get through the FSI course because their vocabulary is so dry (yeah, I know it was written in the 50s): cup, sailboat, cabinet, vase, flowers, valley, mountains, suitcase, typewriter, record player, etc.. Add to that they never use the 2nd person tense which is probably the most used tense nowadays.

I know that after your oath you receive your citizenship certificate and then directly after that you will be able to apply for your passport

They take your photo and biometrics and if you wish to provide a mail to them they will send you the passport by mail.

My great-grandmother  was born in Austria-Hungary right on the border between current day Czech Republic and Slovakia.  She was born on the Austrian side but  the origin of our family is Slovakian/ Hungarian.  The only proof I have is a copy of her birth certificate and I have all the documents that show the lineage to me.

The consulate here in NY said the birth certificate was acceptable and I just need to learn Hungarian but I spoke to a lawyer and they are not so sure (the document is in Old German).

Does anyone have advice on this?

No need to consult a lawyer and pay extra charges just talk to your nearest Hungarian embassy or consulate and they will guide you exactly the way I did. I assume you are applying on simplified naturalization and if you do yes you are required to learn the Hungarian language on a B1 level. Just put your effort in to it and you will do great, wish you all the best and if you have any further questions will be more than glad to answer you. All the best

Thanks Omar.  He just wasn't so sure that the birth certificate would be enough as she was on the Austrian side.  It  would be extremely disappointing to learn hungarian to be turned down through the bureaucratic process.  I'm definitely not paying for a lawyer.

My case was different as my grandmother is Hungarian born in Budapest. My aunt also applied and is already a Hungarian citizen now she also helped me in the process as well as I got my guide through the embassy which helped me in the process. I also learned the language and passed my interview in May on simplified naturalization ( Egyszerűsített  honosítás )

Well let's hope the embassy is right. So how long did you study Hungarian before you passed the test?  I'm.1/2 through duolingo and can say a few things. Not sure it counts.

It took me 1 and half year as I was studying with a teacher on Skype as well as Iam working in the same time but believe me it was so hard in the beginning but later I enjoyed the language and I already visited Budapest last year so I practiced also the language there. I love hungary the culture as well as the Hungarian people are so helpful and nice. I encourage you to go through this process and work as much as you can to achieve because it's absolutely a great experience and please if you wish to communicate further I will be more than glad.

My translator said that if I show that I am enrolled in a course that could help, and it might sway them.

What do you mean by sway them there are two types of citizenship verification and simplified naturalization. If you are entitled to simplified naturalization then the main requirement is is speaking Hungarian as B1 level if you are entitled to verification then no language exam is needed.

Off course showing them you are enrolled is a very good sign that you are learning the language but there is no exemption from the language requirement as it is one of the main requirements.

Not at all true.

How so blonder?

I dont mind spending a year learning Hungarian.  I just dont want to do all this and Hungary telling me the birth certificate isnt acceptable. 

I'm really enjoying learning hungarian.  The verb conjugation is insane (I thought french was hard).

Blonder what do you mean not true at all please correct me if I am wrong

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