Is it just me or foreigners have no opportunites whatsoever here ?

Hi guys, I am planning to come in Kuala Lumpur and to find a job as a barman at least.
If anyone knows something about  please let me know!
My girlfriend have a job offer there and I wanna follow her. Is it difficult to find a job as a barman there?

You cannot work as a barman in malaysia. It is illegal and obvious so will get caught even if a bar offers you a job. Some students - legally - work as foreigners but fines large and local labour cheap so you won't find work legally.

But if a bar we'll offer me a job with a contract.... still its illegal?

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mlf780 wrote:

expatypus you mentioned a 5000 minimum, Is this a mandatory minimum set by the government and is it 5000 per week or month ?

yes it is. in order to pay bonus or other benefit such as medical fees and so on, they rather sign under contract instead of going under permanant,some of the bank will do the same. based on the person perfomance,then only will consider to convert to permanant staff

Senchiu wrote:

But if a bar we'll offer me a job with a contract.... still its illegal?

5000 RM per month is min to obtain an employment pass. There are a few dodgy companies that will pay less and tell immigration more. Guess who is in trouble if caught? TIM

Illegal work is illegal work. Happens in most countries but being caught means jail, fines and a nice stamp on your passport that means no country will ever let you enter as a tourist again. Hardly worth it and in Malaysia you stick out like a sore thumb so obvious in a raid! And often other staff will rat on illegal workers as they get a reward. Employers here know it's strict so less illegal workers. And good work by immigration I say as illegal means illegal. Why do the european youth of today believe that Asia owes them a job???? Seen it on CS a lot. Like any country the locals come first then when no locals available or willing then look at foreign workers / expats. After all this is Malaysia and unemployment for grads especially is a problem

I have been asked to visit Malaysia to help train some staff at 2 locations
Training would take about 2 months total
It is not university training type work

Do I need a work permit and if so what type??

Hi uni should get - for 2 months a professional visit pass. I bet they said don't bother ..,, if they did I reckon it is a local cheapskate Chinese for profit college don't expect to train happy staff! If a better one/state uni they should get you a prof visit visa. Otherwise it will be a tourist visa. Temp employments passes are usually 6-12 months

thankyou
But this is not at a school or university
Professional visit pass does not cover this

Although the training is specialised it requires dedication rather than degrees

You mentioned a tourist visa?
Would that be legal
or would it be illegal

Thanks

There are opportunities for foreigners. I am also a foreigner. Had gone through some interviews recently. Got few options. You try call centers for US or UK projects where English is required. I hope you can find a job if ur still searching.

Hi Nemodot,
I like your attitude man.
I am retiring to KL. Luckily have my own apartment/car/finance etc. Thank God.
I can see where you are coming from. Malaysia is an oil rich country with power to buy but it's people are still living in the 18th century. Mentality etc. Hope it all goes well for everyone.

hi friends today just now itself i registered in Expat.com i need all your support to become a active member in Expat.com and to share everything with you all...

"never loose hope"....even i am the person searching for job ...

Sux to be here lol

Not really

It does when you are seeking for work, you have a degree, 5+ years experience and yet you dont get a job

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As an expat you need to be 27 yrs old and a graduate to be employ in Malaysia.

It also depend on the field you are applying.

some companies have the right qualification to hire an expat.
The rules are a bit tough.

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First of all I need to be blunt here. Reality is always hard to accept and this is not just happening in Malaysia. When I once graduated from UK, I struggled to stay back being a foreigner unless I prove myself to be any different than the local British otherwise why would the company want to hire me? Even if the company wanted to hire me, they have to go through the whole hiring process of the locals to prove to the government that the company can't hire a local talent hence need to source from oversea. That is even harder as the government is trying to impose all kind of laws to prevent too many foreigners staying back and to provide enough jobs for the local when most of the local are all lazy and abusing the benefits system!!

After 12 years back to Malaysia and yes I did manage to get back to UK and the reason is they need someone who can speak Cantonese and Mandarin which they can't really find one back in the UK. Even if there are BBC (British Born Chinese) but their attitude and working behaviour are far off being classified as a professional. In short they are lazy, no brainers and just looking for another job to pass time. Mind you the employee laws in the Europe protect Employee more than the Employer. Still I don't find anything more superior there compare to Asia. Now that I am back yes it is always easier for local to get a job but that is the same everywhere!

First of all don't rely too much on the job websites or newspaper because that will not bring you anywhere. Go to get the headhunter contacts and approach them, impress them and they will market you to the right company. You don't see a lot of high senior position advertise on jobstreet or dailies because the top MNC and FMCG companies do not want to waste time for all the applicants sending in their CV. They rather use the head hunters or job agency to hunt for that specific talent.

Yes many said the pay for the local is cheaper hence foreigner is difficult to get the job because demanding higher pay. I am a local and I do not believe in such concept. Most of the employers here are paying the employee not according to the market rate. If compare 10 years ago, Malaysia is still one of the top paying country in Asia but now we have fallen so far behind. I always used a simple methodology which is comparing the same position of a Manager earning RM5k in Malaysia vs same position in HK earning RM20K and in Japan could be RM40k (all these has been converted back to RM for comparing apple to apple) and if these 3 people applying a job in UK, who would get the job? If the company looking at stretching their budget, obviously they pay so much lesser to hire a Malaysian compare to a Japanese. That is the reason we as Malaysian when we travel out either by seconded or expat package, it will never be matching to candidate from those countries. So do I whine and complain about it? Do something about it and move on.

Same goes to you lot that if you want to stay on, do something about it and prove it. I have friends that work for Japanese and Korean company that earn local package while another Japanese or Korean that posted to Malaysia doing the same job earning 5 times his salary. That is just simply because they are working out of their home base which they already getting super high salary back home. Is that fair? No.. but if my friends don't like it then move on and get a job that pay well enough at least to him/her. Otherwise just accept the fact and continue working.....

Jerry

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Good luck!

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I do not think real expats need jobs.
They may create jobs for other folks more destitute than them instead.

A typical expat is someone who is educated, has an adventurous streak and eats, drinks and sleeps computer.
Today with the Internet everywhere, one can live and work on any meridian, anywhere. 

You need qualifications, capital or connections.

The answer is NO. Malaysia is the worst country to find work for expats

Yup, I think it must be quite difficult to find a job in KL, at least a decent paying job unless you have the right qualifications. Seems almost as if every Tom, dick or Harry is trying to move to KL to find a job. Also with so much oversupply labour it's going to keep those salaries low.

leeman wrote:

The answer is NO. Malaysia is the worst country to find work for expats

North Korea is worse though, unless you a Nuclear Engineer I guess 

Dear,

Perhaps, you may wish to seek professional recruitment agencies to help you out.

There are 3 types of foreign employment here in Malaysia.

1) Foreign workers for the service /manufacturing industry 
2) Expatriates with key skills (min. RM5000/mth) category
3) Expatriates that entered via MSC status companies or those companies that registered with Malaysia Economic Corridors (no salary cap)

Most companies under the MSC status or tied up with Labuan/Iskandar Johor/Northern/East Coast/ Sabah/Sarawak economic corridors does not have restrictions in hiring foreigners. And they do not need to pay a bomb for work permit application also.

At the end of the day, is your skills that you can offer and how well you are prepared for interviews. Target the right companies and right jobs to apply, and seek advice on how to prepare for interview will help you get a job faster.

All the best,
Silvia 

Senchiu wrote:

Hi guys, I am planning to come in Kuala Lumpur and to find a job as a barman at least.
If anyone knows something about  please let me know!
My girlfriend have a job offer there and I wanna follow her. Is it difficult to find a job as a barman there?

You apply through the hospitality industry, once a licensed hotel/bar/restaurant is willing to hire you as bartender, the work permit application is easy then. Your employer will take care of that as the hospitality industry does hire a lot of foreigners via the Ministry of Home Affairs.

As i said. Malaysia has nothing to offer for expats in the service industry. For a front liner job in bars and restaurants total none. Well there is always ways to stay in malaysia if u re following your women. Come in as a tourist pass, 30 days visa exit out to thailand border and get back in.

And careful dealings with agents and most of them are fakers cheat your money ending out being deported if you get caught. Checking on good visa and working visa which you already have a file i can help out. Got some friends in imigresyen. Free of charge.

I always thought of Malaysia as quite a tough place to find a job, but then I know a few expats with top jobs who are rolling in it, mostly accounting or advertising executives. Also, if you work for the BC or are an international school teacher then I would guess that your chances are reasonable and in addition you can move around the globe fairly easily. As far as locations for expats, my sister who works for the BC always told me that expats all wanted to eventually be placed in Singapore because they had the best conditions there. These days there are more and more Malaysians who are turning to online selling as a source of income. Many are turning over RM30k - 50k per month and some a lot more than that. My point is that there is always a way to get by and sometimes working for yourself can be a lot more satisfying than a regular job. If you really want to succeed and as long as you have some common sense then you should be able to make it. Everyone must realise that in this day and age, a willingness to be flexible and to change direction can be both exciting and profitable.

Are you a male or female and please attach your profile with latest photo and your visa status
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ceeky are you offering any job..?

This is such a very useful thread indeed. I've learned alot from this thread. Thank you so much for your inputs.

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Hi, will u be my friend, I am in KL alone, feel bored ...

I'm so sorry but I am in Bandung at the moment. Perhaps you could ask somebody else?